*Official* nVidia GTX 10xx Series notebook discussion thread

Imho (and by that I might be wrong... please anyone feel free to correct me), the reason is, that the non-Ti version with only 640 cores requires only 1 single Graphics Processing Cluster (GPC) on the chip. 1 GPC is the absolute minimum required for any Nvidia chip. The Ti-version with 768 (640+128) already requires 2 GPCs. Now my assumption is that they can produce the single GPC version (640 cores) very cheap and in massive amounts. Therefore I also believe that they will put much more non-Ti than Ti on the market.

 

It will be fun to see how low the pricing for laptops with the 1050/1050ti can get, and still deliver near 970m performance in a very thin package

 

yum! The reason why I gave up business notebooks was because the gap between it's mid range gpu and consumer equiv was increasing with the business laptops using weaker gpus as time went on. My last business laptop had 8750 gddr 5 in it but u core cpu. That would at least be equivalent of the 960m now back then. But instead they are using lower end models rather than mid range. It's quite disappointing. Even the Rx70m models are probably around the 940mx level. What happened to amd good old mid range they used? I had a dell e6440 with self upgrade quad i7 and 8690m gddr5. Quite impressed with it. The changed to my 1st gaming w230st with 765m. Very impressed but wasn't used to it not being a business laptop with trackstick. So I sold that and bought hp 840 with 8750m gddr5 thinking it give me somewhat close to the 765m but in reality it was only giving me 3-4fps more than the 8690m was in bf4, maybe that's down to the 4700mq + 8690m vs i5 4300u + 8750m. Then sold that went back on my 2nd attempt on the gaming laptop with p34w (notice they are all 13-14") loved it and spoilt with the 970m and form factor(I've owned this twice sold both times in the end). If a thinkpad will put a 1050ti in that's like a 970m rather than a 1040m which probably just a a rebrand 940mx with higher clocks. Then it could tempt me to it over a 14" with 1060 maybe. Even if it does have a 1050m is a major upgrade cos 940mx. But that wouldn't be an upgrade for me. Already rocking a 960m and just told dell to cancel my 1070 AW15 in favour of the 1060 AW13.
I'm not ready to be spoilt by a 1070 yet then send it back so rather not see it lol because then a 1060 wouldn't be enough and I don't do big laptops.


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Now I finally grasped the whole situation. Quoting myself, the same game of seeing the 1050 just as a superclocked 960m can be done with the 1060 - which is just a superclocked 970m.

960m clocks around 900Mhz -> 1050 gtx clocks around 1400Mhz -> 50% more performance...
970m clocks around 1000Mhz -> 1060 gtx clocks around 1500Mhz -> 50% more performance...

Wow... it has 50% higher clocks to deliver 50% higher performance. What a "wonder"...

Another funny thing is the power draw:
Laptop with 970m requires (by NBC measurements ) ~ 120W average.
Laptop with 1060 gtx requires (on NBC measurements) ~200W

Wow again... it needs 50% more electric power to deliver 50% more performance. What a "wonder"...

Obviously the "die-shrink" 28nm to 16nm doesn't change much at all (except less raw material for production). They would still have the same performance and power draw if they just added the same percentage of CUDA cores on the previous generation chips - and which would be better because cooler. Now we have all this increasingly hotter chips, requiring additional cooling arrangements. Innovation and progress? A ****ing joke...

 

I wonder how thin it will get - as basically a higher clocked 960M, with therefore more heat, I don't know whether they will be able to go below 20mm.

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What are the clock of laptop 1060 3gb? Does it have the same clocks as laptop 1060 which has 100mhz less than a desktop 1060?

 

The die shrink is what makes higher clocks and lower voltages possible. The smaller the transistor gate, the less voltage you need to make it function properly, which leads to both higher clocks and lower power draw for the same frequency. I also have a feeling those power draw numbers are a bit off. Pascal will overclock itself to much higher boost clocks, so that may account for the increase.

 

Hmmm... you are right. Something is off in the power draw numbers. I rechecked various tests on notebookcheck.com and they are indeed not so much different. I made the mistake of picking 2 random tests as a basis, where the 970m obviously had the absolute minimum power draw of all other 970m tests, and one where the 1060 had the absolute maximum power draw of all 1060 tests. Kinda "lol" that I accidentally picked these two extremes out of all the tests. Actually I'm glad, I'm wrong. At least not everything is as bad as I thought.

 

When are reviews of the new alienwares coming out? And when can I go touch one in a Store somewhere like Fry's or microcenter? Ugh

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There's some youtube stuff, e.g.

 

For all friends of the 1050 gtx laptop version: no 1050 laptop in 2016

http://laptopmedia.com/news/we-wont...ti-powered-notebooks-until-january-next-year/

 

Razer Blade Pro with a gtx 1080
https://www.cnet.com/products/razer-blade-pro/preview/?ftag=COS-05-10aaa0b&linkId=30170112

 

I fear for that machine. I get the Samsung note 7 vibe from it.

 

Knowing Razer, that's a 1080 in name only that's going to throttle like there's no tomorrow.

 

They should have gone with a 1070 and call it a day. A 6700HQ paired with a 1080 is laughable, but I really really want to see how well it cools such a machine... it is like 1k dlrs more than competing/similarly equipped machines, but it does not seem nearly as robust.

 

a 17inch laptop with no full sized keyboard.....? what?

 

Uhh... the Razer Blade was already running hot with the 970M... the GTX 1080 outputs like double the heat. Not to mention, Pascal's max operating temperature (94 C) is lower than Maxwell (98 C). I'm dying to see the internals of this notebook. Either they pulled off some engineering wizardry, or they're heavily relying on thermal throttling.

Also... $3700?

 

Actualy, that 17 IZGO screen makes me curious. Could it be sourced for other machines? Could it be good?

 

everyone run for their lives, your neighborhoods are gonna go nuclear with these things around

just imagine owners trying to overclock that thing *lol*

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Make sure your household contents / fire insurance is in order. Say the same to your neighbors

 

Razer's notebook is going to be next Note 7 for sure.. People trying to play games on battery in airplanes causing a fire lol

 

Will this stop Razer to create even thinner models? The easy fix for this will be a firmware update so the power usage will drop. Or Razer push out update via Win update so the machine can't be used

 

A GTX 1080 in a Razor is a truly scary thought. If the 970m throttled then the 1080 is going to be a mere shadow of it's desktop and MXM brethren.
I do give them credit for trying, but it's not going to be much of an achievement if it's throttling to GTX 1050 speeds.

 

Thin laptops has a place. Heck, my next laptop is probably gonna be a thin and light. Just dont expect too much out of it.

P650 with a 6820hk and a 1070 is a great machine.

1080 is where I draw the line.

 

Razer Blade Pro (2016) key features explained by Razer CEO Min-Liang Tan
NotebookcheckReviews
Published on Oct 20, 2016
"Min-Liang Tan presents the all new 17-inch Razer Blade Pro 2016 with Intel i7 quadcore CPU, Geforce GTX 1080, 4K Display and machanical keyboard."

 

Manufacturers roll out firmware updates for GeForce GTX 1070 due to memory Issue
https://www.guru3d.com/news-story/m...for-geforce-gtx-1070-due-to-memory-issue.html

I wonder if this problem shows up on mobile?

"If you own a GeForce GTX 1070, you might want to pay attention to this news-item as you could be effected. There have been some problems reported with certain GeForce GTX 1070 cards. After further investigation it became apparant that the issues like flickering and poor memory overclocking results on the memory sub-system are graphics memory related."
...
"I've been doing some rounds at the manufacturers with the following info (we'll update as feedback gets in). A number of manufacturers is or have been working on VBIOS updates:

• EVGA: updates download here
• Gainward: updates download here (select card -> BIOS download)
• Palit: updates download here (select card -> download)
• ASUS: not yet available
• Gigabyte: No Micron memory was used but is double checking with R&D.
• Inno3D: not yet available
• KFA2/Galaxy: not yet available
• MSI: not yet available
• PNY: not yet available
• Zotac: not yet available"

Reddit:
https://www.reddit.com/r/pcgaming/comments/58ilgw/manufacturers_roll_out_firmware_updates_for/

 

Thanks for the info @hmscott

I should be getting the gl502vs-db71 soon after it's back in stock next week at bestbuy. Finally after about a month I think it was with your advice I'll be getting it. I almost couldn't return the 980m one because I didn't know how to factory restore it on windows 10.


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Whew... luckily mine has Samsung memory.

 

Razer the one who makes Heatsinks with direct copper pipes as mating to the Die's on the CPU and GPUs going for a GTX1080 ?
ROFLMAO !! Staph it razer n00b !!

@0:45 mark that's the heatsink they are using says Vapor chamber & the CEO saying at 24 sec mark the 6700HQ @ 33.5GHz LOOL and guess what 250W PSU, It's gonna blast the moment one turns it on. All that for 3700USD only.

Guys this is the ultimate comedy.

 

I'm really iffy about the cooling on the razer blade pro, but if they used some magic fairy dust that has some insane thermal conductivity and by some miracle had it so that it so hot it doesn't instantly burn your house down while sounding like a jet breaking the sound barrier... I'll be impressed

 

Yes I remember seeing those heatpipes making about 40% contact with the whole die. Razer's heatsink heatsink solution was a horrifying backyard job.

This should be interesting to say the least.

 

I guess it's the same panel that you can find in any machine that says IGZO, for example Precision 7710.

The idea is good, but as @TBoneSan said, the execution was terrible.

 

MSI 1050/1050ti Review Coming Tuesday...(image shows MSI 1050ti/1050 boxes on set)

From the end of this video, included a 2nd BF1 benchmark review

Spoiler

AMD vs. Nvidia: Battlefield 1 DirectX Comparison


Battlefield 1 Benchmarks - 20 GPUs tested at 1080p, 1440p, & 4K!

 

Been waiting for MSI Gaming "Z" reviews for a long time, finally one in English. Nothing but MSI Gaming "X" reviews until now.

MSI GTX 1080 Gaming Z Review - MSI's flagship put to the test!

 

The next Adele song is going to be "Set Fire to the Razer (Blade Pro)".

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What idle temps are you guys seeing on a notebook 1080 with 6700k?

 

I think it depends on which laptop it is in.. It should be in the 40s or low 50C..

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I'm idly tempted to get a 1080 notebook with a 6700k.

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I think the 6700K is the right choice if it fits in your budget, but be warned, some work will be required (e.g. undervolting, repasting, adjusting fan curve etc).

 

I'm saving up now and almost ready to pull the trigger on a nonsli dm3. With a vapor chamber and 3k or 4k screen. When or if I do, it will be from hid and delidded.

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MSI GTX 1050 Ti & 1050 Review & Benchmarks - BF1, GOW4, Overwatch, More

Spoiler: A few more benchmark reviews of the 1050ti/1050...

GTX 1050 Ti Benchmarkkksss!!!!


GTX 1050 Ti Review + Benchmarks!


This little video card bangs all your bucks! GTX 1050Ti Reviewed!


Impressive Budget Gaming Experience - GTX 1050 Ti Review


NVIDIA GTX 1050 Ti Review - A Budget Powerhouse!?


ZOTAC GTX 1050 MINI Review

 

As promised from Hardware Unboxed last week

MSI GTX 1050 2G OC: The New Budget King?


MSI GTX 1050 Ti 4G OC: Extremely Capable 1080p Budget Gaming!

 

Nice comparison between 1050ti, 1060, 1070, 1080...

[1080p] GTX 1050 Ti vs GTX 1060/ GTX 1070/ GTX 1080 Gaming Benchmarks


Published on Oct 25, 2016
1080p is the most popular PC gaming resolution according to the Steam hardware survey. GTX 1060 offers the best balance of price vs performance - does the new GTX 1050 Ti change things?

00:02 - The Division
01:38 - The Witcher 3
02:42 - Rise of the Tomb Raider DX12
04:00 - Ashes of the Singularity DX12
05:37 - Far Cry Primal
06:26 - Hitman DX12
08:31 - Assassin's Creed Unity
09:30 - Crysis 3

 

Hey what do you guys think about this laptop? It seems like a good price for a 6700k paired with the 1070.


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Which laptop?

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I'm having a difficult time finding when we'll start seeing 1050s in laptops. Does anybody have any good sources on that? I'm starting to think I should have bought a 960M laptop back in July; my budget is ~$900 and I held off, hoping to jump on the pascal if it didn't take too long. I'm hoping for a steal of a deal come Black Friday/Cyber Monday.

 

1050s in laptops will come out in January.

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We won’t see NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 and 1050 Ti-powered notebooks until January next year
http://laptopmedia.com/news/we-wont...ti-powered-notebooks-until-january-next-year/

"Although everyone is talking about the newly announced GTX 1050 and 1050 Ti GPUs and the hype is absolutely real, we really don’t want to burst your bubble but the news about notebooks coming equipped with those GPUs isn’t good.

We received an interesting information from our valuable source that NVIDIA is planning to release its mobile version of the GeForce GTX 1050 and 1050 Ti sometime during January 2017 so don’t hold your breath. Wonder why’s the hold-up? We have a few theories."

NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 Ti (Notebook)
http://www.notebookcheck.net/NVIDIA-GeForce-GTX-1050-Ti-Notebook.168400.0.html

"Up to now the GTX 1050 Ti for notebooks is not released. Rumors speak of a release in early 2017."

 

Sorry it seems like the link didn't show up: http://www.eurocom.com/ec/configure(2,384,0)ec


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