*Official* nVidia GTX 10xx Series notebook discussion thread

This Wprime 1024M bench score http://hwbot.org/submission/2523771_mr._fox_wprime___1024m_core_i7_4930mx_2min_46sec_639ms is from the very last true Alienware. I think you have seen it This bench score is done from hardware in an Alienware model, who was at the very top on HWBOT!! Now there's absolutely no Alienware laptops in the top of the processor benchmark ranking at http://hwbot.org/ anymore. The same applies also in all 3DMark benchmarks. They are completely gone bro Fox. AW is history. From the past!!

 

I'm sure 'the others' accidentally overlooked your ingenious proposal for the perfect 13 incher....

But ya know: it's all for "blink blink" and Metal, not the innards!

 

haha its fine, it was OT anyways ^^

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EVGA GTX 1070/1080 Card update - Almost All Of Them Have Overheating Issues.

EVGA continuously is mentioning and putting blame on FurMark to be the culprit...
<Likely in an effort to keep down production costs EVGA (on some cards) has not been adding any decent enough cooling on and over the VRM area, causing it to overheat with any of the new ACX revision based graphics cards. Some cards as a results literally have burnt components. In our thermal image you can see the VRM Area reach close to 100 Degrees C, and we are NOT using Furmark but a looped 3DMark FireStrike sequence (Graphics test scene 1).>

http://www.guru3d.com/news-story/ev...most-all-of-them-have-overheating-issues.html

 

Yup, it's been going on for a while now, started a thread for this here:

GTX 1080/1070 EVGA Cards Reportedly Catching Fire Due To VRMs Overheating
http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...catching-fire-due-to-vrms-overheating.797645/

 

That's why I bought the Hybrid. It runs at like 40C.

 

Doesn't the hybrid have the same VRM cooling as the stock cooler? I think this problem only affects their ACX cooler, but in any case that would actually make the problem potentially worse because the VRMs will be working even harder when the core is overclocking itself even further due to lower temps.

 

Honestly don't know, lol. Haven't looked into it. My card is performing fine.

 

Literally meant that a single 1080 was more than 980m SLI, so I wasn't surprised 1080 SLI would be way ahead of that.

 

Notebook GTX 1050 benchmarks (sorry if already posted):

http://laptopmedia.com/highlights/nvidia-geforce-gtx-1050-ti-laptop-specs-and-benchmarks/

About 7% faster than 970m. I could live with that, almost 2x a 960m.

 

I'm pretty sure what's you've mentioned is the case. The core gets the watercooling .The VRMs still get the same blower style cooling. It used to worry me a little on my old 980ti EVGA Hybrid because alot of users (especially Kraken's) had problems dissipating VRM heat or got a false sense of confidence from the low core temps.

 

This is exactly why I do not do any extreme level of overclock on my laptop GPUs without AC cooling. Cool core temps don't mean something else is not burning itself up.

 

And what would be the excuse for these other guys?
http://www.3dmark.com/compare/fs/10388436/fs/10574244/fs/10371924/fs/10472283

 

I get ~ 5000 in Fire Strike with my OCed 860M, and nearly 1200 in Unigine Heaven. I dunno why people are so impressed by this gimped GPU, when, compared to the one higher up (1060), it's only slightly more than half as powerful. It's also only about 50% better than my 860M. A properly OCed 960M should narrow the gap even more, because 960Ms would use superior chips with lower voltages, hence allowing more overclocking headroom.

Compared to the jump from the 965M/970M to the 1060 (which is nearly a doubling in performance), the 1050 Ti is still a joke.

 

The 980m is about 30+% faster than 970m and is and always has on trend generation by generation equal to x60m sli. The1050ti is 7% faster than 970m. That's not close enough to 2 960m. It's just an oc 970m literally. The only thing impressive about it (to me) is its 7% faster and not 7% slower which I anticipated and if they put it in business class notebooks rather than a 1040 or something that's a waste of time for a business laptop. Those gpu should be for ultra books.


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The 1050 is basically what the 1060M was supposed to be. The 1060 is basically what the 1070M was supposed to be. And the 1070 is basically what the 1080M was supposed to be. All they did was change the name to match the desktop series GPU. The 1080 is on the same page as last year's 980.

It's ironic because the 1060 and 970M share core count, so they didn't add any cores there. This means the 1160, assuming it's a refresh, will probably have more cores. It all makes sense now... What I saw earlier this year turned out to be wrong by name but not by spec.

EDIT: I just realized I posted this in the wrong thread. Oh well, lol.

 

1060 and 970m share core count etc just like 1070 and 980 do for laptops haha.

 

http://www.3dmark.com/compare/fs/10665194/fs/10653296#

 

http://www.3dmark.com/fs/10662691

@Johnksss@iBUYPOWER my latest score.
I'm rather surprised at the cpu, 4.o at -130mv

 

Interesting indeed. I did one at 4 ghz and one at 3.6 ghz.
http://www.3dmark.com/compare/fs/10665194/fs/10653296/fs/10665268#

Will do a firestrike run now.

Ok, there is something wrong with your stock gpu scores...
http://www.3dmark.com/compare/fs/10662691/fs/10665305

 

Yea I'm trying to run fire strike and it keeps feeding me a line of I'm cancelling it or something.

Yea, that's what I'm trying to figure out, is it because I'm dropping something somewhere or what.....

Doesnt the p870dm3 have higher tdp etc? quite interesting, and I'm interested to see how it transfers into gaming.

 

Higher TDP? Not sure what you mean. At stock they are both exactly the same. We are only looking at gpu score and fps for the gpu score.

And if you are asking about mine, it games fine at stock. What about your?

 

A little off topic here but....
I'm trying to underclock my i7 6700hq (lower the multipliers) and I noticed I can't do it in Intel XTU. Does anyone know why and if there's a workaround? I know I had no issues underclocking my 4th gen i7 4702HQ

 

@Sebi97 It might just be your cpu, as fair as i recall only the 6930hq and the 6820hk have that kind of stuff unlocked.

@Johnksss@iBUYPOWER I haven't had any issues save for CIV6 crashing every two hours almost on the dot. I'm still installing thing at the moment. , I ran me3 with a 21:9 work around for 4 hours no issue, and so far as i fiddle with things i have yet to even witness gsync kick in...i haven't dropped below 95fps lol. waiting on witcher 3, fallout4 and metro (both) to install.

 

I do have fallout 4 installed. Also have GTA V. No witcher 3 yet.

 

Nice. Witcher 3 runs well, I haven't had a chance to play fallout 4 yet.

I was just playing mass effect 3 multi player and crashed out but I think that had to do with the windows narrator that decided to harass me.

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The 6700HQ is locked by Intel, Intel only allow / unlock the K CPU's and in the case of the 6920HQ some changes are allowed - like OC to 4.0ghz / 40x multi-plier - and maybe some other options.

The other CPU's can undervolt, maybe some other non-speed / performance options.

Hopefully Kaby Lake will open things up again for user tuning.

 

@NuclearLizard

Maybe it's a waste of time trying to get a 45w CPU to perform like a 91w CPU? The 6920HK isn't as "unlocked" as the HK/K CPU's for a start.

Spending time optimizing as far as each will go on their own is fun, but the resulting performance is what it is.

The GT83VR with that slight CPU OC has raised the GPU score quite a bit, and @NuclearLizard has come a long way already - in the first 24 hours of ownership

The P870DM3 is a nice laptop, but so is the GT83VR, any talk of one being better than the other is OT and counter productive.

No need to stoke or crush ego's based on a few numbers here, that's for the GT83VR / P870DM3 threads

 

I think I was referencing the GPU's at that point. AFAIK they have higher tdp and a fancy cooler.

and ill thank you for the compliment.

 

Not sure what you are talking about at this point, but it seems counter productive.
We are only talking about gpus since they are both identical and that was my main focus in the compares. NOT THE CPU OR OVER ALL SCORE.

Yes, only gpus at this point. Everyone knows the cpus are not going to match up any time soon. This is why i lowered the cpu over clock to see if that would lower my gpu scores.

Edit:
@NuclearLizard
My Asus is G-Sync, but it's 75/1070N. Maybe I can use that one to see how G-Sync works.

Edit:
Try this....
http://www.nvidia.com/coolstuff/demos#!/g-sync

 

Ok thats interesting, though i haven't found many games to be all that punishing to a 1080 alone let alone sli.

 

You wont, but you should be able to take advantage or "disadvantage" of DSR. They say this is the same as upscaling. I have never tried it, but will try it in a bit.
Or
You can take a game like Battlefield 4 and use the ingame upscale and upscale it by 200 percent. You will then get your money's worth.
I'm pretty sure other games have this feature, but I couldn't tell you which ones.

 

ehh I think I'm good with the 1440p on my moniter, I'm already being weirded out by the drastic rise in sharpness. im gonna try some more witcher and loading up mods on it and fallout 4. lol

Gonna have to put my mod runs on hold....it seems they broke nexus mod manager.

 

Remember, these are only ideas to peak your curiosity.

I do have fallout 4 loaded along with shadow of mordor.

No real new games loaded yet.

 

Does anyone have any fps numbers for skyrim special edition on ultra 1080p? Looking specifically for fps numbers with a 1060 17" screen notebook. I'm looking for a new gaming latop and I'm looking at an asus GL702vm.

 

Damn, Skyrim is on dx9?

 

We have a GL702 forum under the Asus forum:

Pascal ROG Strix GL502/GL702 Thread
http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/pascal-rog-strix-gl502-gl702-thread.794993/

 

I replied there, I'm not specifically looking for the gl702. I'm looking for 17" laptops with the 1060. That video is the original skyrim, not the remastered special edition just released 2 weeks ago.

 

I have the P650RP6 and it can run Skyrim SE well. The ONLY prob I have is sometimes the game runs 50fps max even though the GPU only shows 70% usage. When I relaunch the game, sometimes it fixes itself and I can play up to 60fps (Gsync On). I believe it has something to do with the drivers, I just updated to 375.70. Prev drivers I have to disable Gsync to play it up to 60fps. No frame drops.

 

Any word on what notebook models the 1050Ti will go into, and when?

I recently bought an Clevo P650RP6 with a GTX 1060. Love the notebook, but it's enormous and heavy as a rock. It's half as thick as my previous sager from 2011 (p150hm), but it's actually deeper and wider (the bezel is ridiculous), and while the specs suggested it should be lighter, it sure does not feel that way. Also runs hotter than I expected (75 celcius on skyrim SE after ~45 minutes).

When I made the purchase, I had worked through the specs and was hoping it would provide me with a mobile solution for gaming and work, and my plan was to buy a gaming monolith whenever Elder Scrolls VI decided to show up. Now it looks like I already bought the monolith, and it wont be much help for work.

Is the 1050Ti supposed to go into anything reasonable that I could use for both work and gaming?

Also, what is with the ridiculous amount of permissions windows 10 (and nvidia experience) ask for? It was a huge buzz kill to fire up the new notebook and have to refuse 15 times for different variations of releasing my use habits, key stroke patterns, etc.

 

The 1050Ti will probably be in the Dell XPS 15 refresh, and on most gaming notebooks currently sporting a 960M/965M.

And 75C after 45 minutes does not seem unreasonable at all, considering the power the 1060 packs.

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Would you consider buying a 14" laptop with a 1060? You can get good temps/performance on a GS43VR, which is smaller and lighter than the P650RP6. I haven't seen its temps, but you may also get similar performance on the 13.9" Aorus x3 plus v6, which has a 13.9" screen and an even better CPU (6820HK), though this might make it run a bit hot. I wouldn't recommend the new Alienware 13 if you're looking for smaller/lighter, since it's bulky and quite heavy for a 13" machine, and I've heard that the new Razer 14 and Aero 14 have or likely will have poor thermal performance.

Either way though, the performance difference between a 1050TI and 1060 is a bit large, so you might want to consider getting one of these machines instead of downgrading to a machine with a 1050TI (unless you're confident the performance difference won't bother you.)

 

75 C on Skyrim SE? No way! Definitely something wrong with your setup. I only reach that temp only when benchmarking. Repaste, elevate a few cm.

 

75C is fine... No need to repaste yet... If 80C++ consistently, yeah repaste!

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But it's only Skyrim SE. Max I would get is 65C after an hour.

 

Thanks for the responses guys. Ive decided Ill likely keep the notebook. Big as it is, it still fits in my bag and Im not a small guy so the weight is inconvenient, but not really a big issue. Thanks as well for the suggestions on possible replacements.

Ronzky, do you mind letting me know what your setup is? I was aware the 1060 would likely run hot, but 75C seemed quite a bit for an old game (Shadow of Mordor put me to 77C a swell). I also paid $50 extra for the ICDiamond paste job, so if it doesnt seem up to snuff I would contact the reseller (Im capable of repasting myself, I just hate the idea of splitting open a brand new notebook and messing with it on day #1).

 

I also had ICD from Xotic. Bios 1.05.03, Ec 1.05.04, -140mV CPU, Gsync On (limit 58 fps), slighty elevated, auto fans, ambient temp 30C.

So I did a little testing for you (well actually it's the game I'm currently playing). I got out from our a/c room, with 31C ambient, and played the game out in open world to push the system. I turns out, it did reach max 73C after 30mins. Maybe it ran cool when I was in a dungeon or cave or somewhere closed area.

 

Thanks a lot for checking for me. Nice to know that even if I am running a little hot, it isn't too far ahead of others.

Cheers

 

http://windowsreport.com/nvidia-geforce-gtx-1050-ti-gpu/

Some new juice on the 1050 Ti for notebooks