*Official* nVidia GTX 10xx Series notebook discussion thread

interesting that those charts put a notebook 1070 as more powerful than 2 980Ms in SLI.

 

It pretty much is.. Firestrike of single 980M is 9800 ish and a 1070N is around 18700...

 

you mean graphics scores? i can get over 18k with a +120MHz overclock and that's enough to meet the desktop 1070.

 

This greed is never-ending!! http://www.pcworld.com/article/3154...ng-you-to-stream-games-direct-to-your-pc.html

"Worse still is Nvidia’s pricing. If you thought it’d be cheaper to rent through Nvidia than to buy through Steam, you’re sorely mistaken: It’s $25 for 20 hours of gaming, or more than a dollar per hour. Ouch. Obviously I’m an outlier, seeing as I review games for a living, but at those rates I’d be paying $50 per week to play. Give me three months and I could buy a brand-new GTX 1080 with the same money"

 

What about the cost of the games?

$50/week * 12 week = $600, IDK that sounds low for 1080.

Then you have 50 hours / week @ $1/hr = 600 hours of gaming, that's like what, 10 games conservatively?

10 games x $60 = $600, and of course you don't own them, but you could play them at any time for $1/hr - probably cheaper than storing all the games and buying them outright - saving $'s on games you find you aren't into that much and play way less than 60 hours / game.

I'd say it's a fair price for a new service, but maybe over time scaling and use will increase so they can reduce the price - or just make more $ to build infrastructure.

Except for the potential lag issues, and how powerful a local PC you need, it looks interesting enough to try

 

Anyone need / want a mobile 3 screen GTX1080 driven laptop model for the road?

 

Nvidia CES 2017 Announcements...

No GTX1080Ti, but how about we share your Geforce Registration data, usage tracking, and you're current exact location within your house with constant monitoring through your microphone(s) with Facebook and the NSA instead?

1080ti not announced at ces. How do you feel?
https://np.reddit.com/r/nvidia/comments/5m46x4/1080ti_not_announced_at_ces_how_do_you_feel/

Spoiler: Reddit Comments - more (better?) online

borntoannoyAWildJowi 235 points 20 hours ago
Really disappointed. Plus, that nvidia-facebook-nsa partnership legitimately scares me.

ASUS GTX 1080 SLI 91 points 18 hours ago
The nvidia-facebook-google-nsa partnership**

crayfisher 51 points 17 hours ago
Hahaha. We're all ****ed
Enerith6850K / Titan XP 2 points 6 hours ago
People act like these privacy concerns are going to result in a massive company somehow intentionally abusing the data they have to control your free will. Our puppet strings have been pulled for a long time now, but not because of publicly announced data partnerships.

throwaway131072 3 points 6 hours ago
That's not to say data partnerships are excusable. These moves still reinforce the puppetmasters.

Enerith6850K / Titan XP 2 points 5 hours ago
Yeah, I guess it's worth noting, but they're going to do what they want. The market decides with their wallets whether it was a good idea or not.

crayfisher 1 point 4 hours ago
Ironically, that's one of the beliefs they control you with

Good times

 

5 Minutes on Tech - CES 2017

 

Not one made by Razer.

 

Yeah, not a lot of faith in Razer here either...but...

What if Razer made the 2 new panels with integrated liquid-cooling radiators for cooling the GPU and CPU?

Razer could solve their heat issues at the same time, as long as Razer bumps up their QA/QC and manufacturing testing.

 

They might be better off just using fire hose's.

But hey, I'm all for any company trying new things. I love it even when I don't like it.

 

https://www.msi.com/Laptop/GS63VR-7RG-Stealth-Pro.html#hero-overview

This link shows the GS63 with 1070. Will they be able to cool them? If they do, I might well get one.

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Wow they're stuffing a 1070 into the GS63VR's chasis? Interesting.

 

It's currently only a preliminary product page, there is no Specifications tab - in there would be the list of options and clickable model numbers that show their specific configuration.

Oddly, the product page describes 1060 / 1070 / and 1080! - it's gotta be a generic set of module descriptions used across all the new product pages... I'd take them all as place holders until MSI fills out the rest of the product pages.

IDK, but a 1080 would be a tough cool in that shell... unless it's really a trimmed down in power version - then - whats the point?

I would assume it's still a 1060 only model, that would be the safe assumption.

 

I agree that this is probably the most reasonable response to this product page that is lacking context. What do you make of them specifically mentioning GTX 1070 in the paragraph below?

I don't really see how they have the headroom to cool a 1070 when the thicker Gigabyte P35XV6 can barely do it without throttling. I guess the MSI dos have an extra fan...

 

In the spirit of Windoze X Soon no place you can hide yourself, LOL
Welcome to the Future Skip your Windoze 7 or 8.1, walk over to X and join the online community

 

You seem to be glossing over the mention of 1080 as well

"VR READY
Discover next-generation VR performance on GeForce® GTX 1080 / GTX 1070 / GTX 1060 , the lowest latency, and plug-and-play compatibility with leading headsets—driven by NVIDIA VRWorks™ technologies. VR audio, physics, and haptics let you hear and feel every moment."

That mention of 1080 makes me cautious in believing the 1070 as well, it looks like a wide coverage generic copy plugged in as a place holder.

If you want to believe it's gonna have a 1070 then you're going to have to believe it's gonna have a 1080 too - both are mentioned in the product page text in several places - along with the 1060.

Oddly, the only GPU mentioned in the Red Text at the top left is the 1070, no 1060 option is mentioned:

• Latest GeForce® GTX 1070 8GB GDDR5 with desktop level performance
• 15.6" Full HD (1920x1080), IPS level panel (Optional)
• 15.6" UHD (3840x2160), IPS level panel, 100% Adobe RGB (Optional)

There should be a 1060 listing too...maybe it just wrong - it's supposed to be a 1060 only as before?

 

If you want some more "Chillz" - watch the CES 2017 LG Product Showcase - IoT Always Online - Wifi Connected - Appliances that upload your activity and usage to the Cloud - So LG can crunch the data to provide "better service".



Everybody wants that sweet "Surveillance Data Collection" money - World-wide.

"Good Times"

 

Maybe the GS73 is getting the 1070, or MSI product pages are a mess at the moment.

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Yup, I noticed the GS73 17.3" had the 1070, that's probably it.

 

It looks like MSI fixed it on their Global site now, setting Kabylake only and GS series, only the GS73VR shows having a 1070, all the GS63VR's show only 1060 / 1050ti:

IDK if MSI fixed the product pages themselves yet...

 

Ha, too bad. If they had pulled off some cooling miracle and managed to get a 1070 cooled well in there, I'd have made it my next laptop, bad aesthetics and all.

 

XoticPC lists the GE62MVR and GE72MVR with a 1070 - is that accurate? Can the GE62 chassis cool the 1070?

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I doubt. GE series are already struggling with the 965M, 970M and the 1060. If it's actually true and they're doing it, putting a 1070 in a semi-thick chassis is a bad move. After all, MSI GE series is oriented for the average consumer and not enthusiasts! (Those would go with GT series or even the Tornado F5).

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The 1070 isn't listed for the GS / GP / GL series, but the GE series has a 15.6" 1070 model listed and a 17.3" 1070 GE as well:

GE62MVR 7RG APACHE PRO
https://www.msi.com/Laptop/GE62MVR-7RG-Apache-Pro.html#hero-overview

 

I guess it would be the equivalent of the frying GE62 6QF with the GTX 970M from last year. XD

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The MSI GT62 has a 1070, and it runs fine, we have a group here with lots of happy owners:

The Official MSI GT62VR Owners and Discussions Lounge
http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...-gt62vr-owners-and-discussions-lounge.793857/

and, the MSI 16L13 15.6" has a 1070 and a 1080 just started shipping:

The Official MSI 16L13 (Eurocom Tornado F5) Owners and Discussions Lounge
http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...-and-discussions-lounge.797128/#post-10428600

So it's possible to get it to work

 

I'm not talking about the high end models (GT series and Eurocom), those have top tier cooling to deal with the GTX 1070 and the 1080.
If you disassemble the GE, GP and GL series, you would notice there are way less heatpipes than those in the GT (and probably GS). The GE comes with many compromises compared to the high end models (hence the slightly cheaper price), and it'll suffer trying to cool the GTX 1070 down. Why would one get a GE instead of a GT if the latter has G-sync, no optimus and way better cooling?

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You likely haven't opened up the new GE62 1070, maybe it's better built that the previous generation, cheaper than a GT, thinner, weighs less, etc?

Likely noisier, and less well appointed as the GT model, but a GE62 1070's gonna be popular if it works.

 

I simply doubt it'll be good enough for a 1070. It'll likely have the same structure to that with the 1060!

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If the 1060 and 1070 internal cooling is the same, then lets hope it was designed to handle the 1070 cooling, and then the 1060 gets extra cooling capacity it doesn't need.

Why speculate negatively now?, better to wait for reviews

 

Hey, I'm just being realistic. I've seen the internals of a GE62 from last year (GTX 965M) and the GE60 from the year before (860M). They always were a step behind the cooling in the bigger brother, the GT60 from both gens. GE's were always struggling to keep the GPU under 80 degrees while GT's were comfortably doing it. Saying the very same model will evolve to have the same cooling as a GT model (remember, in a smaller chassis, since the GE is not as thick) is too optimistic!

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The only real reason why someone would buy it is if it is cheaper and lighter - otherwise it is GT62VR all the way.

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MSI seems to have a plan to capture as many price points as they can, what with GT, GS, GE, GP, and GL lines all essentially targeting the familary form size ranges.

It is nice MSI threw a 1070 into the lower ranks... I wonder how well MSI will put it together.

With the Kabylake base/Turbo clocking higher - and OC'ing higher according to reports, with potentially higher thermal output, all the ranges of laptops will need to be completely re-reviewed.

We can't count on previous model revision reviews for any of them - at least not until the new reviews with comparisons to previous numbers arrive.

 

anyone know how to do prema level vbios mods? i really want prema to do a vbios mod for the MSI GTX 1070.

 

Svet does MSI GPU vBIOS mods' he may be able to help you sooner, Prema is focusing now on Clevo, right?

 

I kinda want to pester him. But I don't want to void my warrenty.

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Exactly.
Seeing the cost of the latest MSI models in 2017 (GE series cost the same as the GT series, sometimes the lower end GT series are cheaper with sales!), there is literally no reason to pick the GE over the GT, unless you WANT Optimus for a better battery life (Better? I'd bet you wouldn't even have an extra 30 minutes xD), or probably a slightly lighter machine? (GE is by no means light, but at least 600 grams lighter than a GT62). Apart from these, I fail to even see a point for the existence of GE models. (GP and GL are tolerable, since they can cost less than 1000$ and still have a GTX 1060).

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Yeah, that's why I never did it. It's a fun thing to play with, getting that last drop of performance out of the GPU's, but really it's a senseless risk for gaming and everyday use - it's just for giggles.

Except in @thegh0sts situation, he needs the mods to get his new 1070 Pascal upgrade in the P870DM to be tuned.

Otherwise, most laptops are already well tuned to get the most out of the power and cooling their platform can provide, the limits are set to not exceed the normal ambient temperature environments the laptops will work in.

The portable air-conditioner laptop stand crowd on the other hand, extend the working range to the point where they can use the extra voltage and removed power limits, pushing the laptop past the design spec into the maximum spec the chips and support hardware can handle.

Kinda like these guys:

Spoiler: Burn it Down!!

 

i'm just wondering if it's at all possible.

 

how does one get in touch with svet?

EDIT: I tried a post and PM on the MSI forums...hopefully something comes through.

 

Not Nvidia but still graphics

"Next generations graphics", LOL @hmscott
http://wccftech.com/amd-radeon-500-mobility-rebrand-rx-570/

 

Haha. Wasn't the mobility R9 400 series a rebrand of the mobility R9 300 series which was a rebrand of the mobility R9 200 series? I'm not 100% sure, I may be wrong.

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I think most people have lost the count. The only thing we know for sure is that Amd likes to patch up old stuff

 

Haha yeah. Their mobile stuff may as well be called Rebrandeon.

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http://media.msi.com/main.php?g2_itemId=160409

It's definitely not the same. At least from last year GE series. Did you all notice that the DVD-Bay is gone? So that brings a lot of questions about the new internals for the new GE 1070 series.

PS: I'm seriously considering this new model as I was looking for a 17.3" with that ChinMei 120Hz/5ms screen/panel and at least a 1060 but with a lower weight than my current A17-R1. Also with a more serious look as I'll need it to some special working/office project. This new GE series plus an OK keyboard and all under 3Kg will be a serious contender.

ps2: But for the same price I can get a A17 R4 with 1070 and just need to experiment the ChinMei screen upgrade my self... then I'll choose Alienware for sure

 

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CES 2017 - Asus ROG Gaming Laptops GL553 and GL753

 

Slim Gaming Notebook for $800 (Acer)

 

Svet said no vbios mod for the MSI 1070 notebook. Something about security features.

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