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    *Official* nVidia GTX 10xx Series notebook discussion thread

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by Orgrimm, Aug 15, 2016.

  1. Mr. Fox

    Mr. Fox BGA Filth-Hating Elitist

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    With @Prema vBIOS mine is pulling as much as the big Clevo 1080 (up to about 250W).
     
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    Thank God they don't, cause if they did with their woefully inadequate cooling, the plastic of the laptop would literally melt.

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    Awesome. What are temperatures like?

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  4. Mr. Fox

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    I only do overclocked benching on AC. They're too high for normal use and gaming with maxed out TDP, but I can move the TDP slider down to like 80% and then it's in the 70's with no real hit on gaming.
     
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    Thanks for the great info bro!

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  6. Support.2@XOTIC PC

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    I doubt it will displace them, but I'm sure some manufacturers will focus on them more than the proper chips, since thin and light is some of their brand and butter. Companies that seem to be all-in on the gaming ultrabook idea like Razer will probably focus more on the Max-Q while companies that traditionally offer the bigger DTRs will likely keep with the original form factor.
     
  7. J.Dre

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    Technically, there is an M series. The cards in laptops are not all 100% identical to the desktop counterparts. They were labeled "(M)" on the site I saw when I made the prediction, so that is why I assumed "M." It was a sound prediction based on that. Anyone would have done the same at the time.
     
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    As i can't pm you, juste asking here.
    Prema released modded vbios for pascal ?
     
  9. Mr. Fox

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    He is working on this and I am involved with the testing of it. No vBIOS mod has been released to his @Prema Partner shops yet, but they are coming once they are ready. As far as I know, there will not be a public vBIOS mod available for download. NVIDIA has gone to great lengths to make using vBIOS mods difficult and unnecessarily complex for Pascal owners (mobile and desktop). Unless a way to circumvent Falcon security check filth is identified, applying the mod will be outside of the skill set and comfort zone of most users, as it involves disassembly and using a hardware programmer rather than NVFLASH.
     
  10. Georgel

    Georgel Notebook Virtuoso

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    Woah... That sounds pretty serious... So there's little chance that a @Prema partner shop can flash the vBIOS FW remotely?
     
  11. Mr. Fox

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    I am not aware of one now, but that doesn't mean Brother @Prema won't have some kind of special magic to make that happen later on. I guess we'll have to find out when the time comes. NVIDIA really went overboard with Falcon "security" filth, so there is a chance it will be as much of a huge pain in the butt for them as it is for everyone else that NVIDIA screwed. At least this time they did not single out laptop owners... they screwed the desktop customers in the same way.

    The act of flashing it with a programmer is not difficult, although some will find it stressful and intimidating. It's just the underlying principle that is so horribly wrong at its core. If all a person plans to do is flash a GPU vBIOS one time, there's the cost of buying a programmer, too. It makes what should be a quick and easy, no hassle and inexpensive matter into an inconvenient and unnecessarily costly exercise. Thanks to the Green Goblin... aren't they just precious.
     
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  12. Georgel

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    I can totally feel your pain!

    Now I'm not one to be against technology, but this is hurting their customers, I would really appreciate if they would just let those who know what to do, do their thing.

    A hardware programmer unit is not always too expensive, but it is really inconvenient since, for example, I would be really scared to use one, plus I still didn't take my P775 apart at all yet...
     
  13. Mr. Fox

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    You need to fix that problem, Brother @Georgel - take it apart and delid, repaste, re-pad... make your purring kitten roar like an angry lion.
     
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    Just like with Intel on the CPU side, I just keep seeing possible marketing for AMD in this. "Hey, you know that thing NVidia is doing that you don't like? We're not doing that with Vega..."
     
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  15. Georgel

    Georgel Notebook Virtuoso

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    Totally.

    I do have some kind of problem though, living in Romania with no Air Conditioner at the moment, I am running my lappy in a 30 - 35 - 40 C Room, chances are I have to wait for the winter before doing any serious benching or such.
     
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    Wow, not much you can do get low CPU & GPU temperatures when the room temperature is THAT hot! Although, if you can lower your CPU temperatures by 15 degC by delidding then that's pretty significant. And if you do the bottom case mod & repaste the GPU then maybe you'll shave 10 degC off your GPU temperatures, or instead maybe your GPU will just boost higher for more performance which is good too.

    EDIT: I was thinking you have the F5 Tornado, the bottom case mod is applicable to that model, not sure about your laptop though.
     
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  17. Georgel

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    Bottom of the case is really good for P775 actually!

    The seller took off the dust covers so the air intake is better but now I got to clean the dust from time to time...
     
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    I've seen people put dust filters on their case mods, don't think anyone makes one specifically for the task but could probably cut a larger one up easy enough.
     
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  19. Ionising_Radiation

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    I envy everyone who has an average room temperature below 25 °C. Even my Pentium G4500 in my server runs at 50 °C, in a 35 °C room... Nordic countries are great for overclocking.
     
  20. Georgel

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    Highest floor on any building gets higher temperatures than outside, I'm on the 4th floor on a building, sun is blazing directly into the building and directly into my windows all day long, 30 - 35C outside turns to 35 - 40C inside and I'm not allowed to install an AC unit or make changes to the walls or windows............
     
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  21. hmscott

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    Move? :hi:
     
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  22. Papusan

    Papusan Jokebook's Sucks! Dont waste your $$$ on Filthy

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    You could use a portable AC. No installation required. And I'm sure you can get some cheap. Or do as bruh @hmscott suggested :oops: The third option is De-lidde and Liquid metal. All up to yooo bruh :) Pic what's fit!!
     
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    Wow, I've never experienced heat like that, except briefly when on holiday, one of the perks of living in the UK I guess!
     
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    Yikes. Do your windows open, at least? If so, and if you can, I'd suggest getting a portable AC unit ( not a "window AC unit") - all it requires it that you open the window and place a hose up against the screen whenever you want to use AC, and take the hose down whenever you're done. No installation necessary.

    I started using one in the last year, and it's a godsend.
     
  25. Georgel

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    I am considering purchasing a portable AC unit.

    The head is unbearable here, the people who constructed the building without any kind of insulation and made it heat like a rock in the sun should probably be held accountable for those things...

    As for moving, rent in Bucharest is no joking matter...

    I want to move back to my hometown, the living conditions in Bucharest with bugs and expensive rent and such are not nice at all... Not to mention that it is way too hot inside to feel well.

    I guess that a portable AC unit it is, as soon as I can afford one...
     
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    Seriously, who has thousands of dollars worth of laptop but no air con? ......

    Lol - Melbourne winter, gonna be 4C overnight, 12C max tomorrow.
     
  27. Ionising_Radiation

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    Feels lousy to live 130 km from the Equator...
     
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    My basement stays below that in the summer, but the downside is without a space heater it gets super cold in the winter.
     
  29. hmscott

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    IDK, from the looks of these guys overclocking in the snow, it's not 100% effective...
    high performance overclock sessions.jpg
    Notice the bottle of "overclocking fluid" the camera man is holding :vbbiggrin:
     
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    That looks like a Razer Blade, for which no "overclocking fluid" is required.

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    In normal temperature conditions perhaps, but in the snow the Blade needs some overclocking "accelerant". :vbrolleyes:
     
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    You mean heavy overclock up to normal functioning 1080? :rolleyes: Is this possible? :oops:
    upload_2017-6-8_5-56-39.png
     
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    A bit late but ty for your kind and deep explanation mr fox
     
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    HAHAHAHAHAHA. How did I miss this.

    Is one of those a 1080-ti Razr prototype??
     
  35. hmscott

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    Early Razer 1080 testing on the original 330w PSU o_O
     
  36. Georgel

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    I do wonder about those razor blades. They sound like interesting laptops for office use...
     
  37. Papusan

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    Around $4500 for BGA. And on top, with crippled performance vs. other JokeBook's. You're kidding my good friend :confused:
     
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    They could run youtube and MS word well... Maybe older games as well, something to play in an office.

    Although I actually expected another price bracket entirely for them.

    P775 comes at ~2500$ or so for full specs...

    http://www.pcgamer.com/the-best-gam...source=facebook&utm_campaign=buffer_pcgamerfb

    I wonder if anyone noticed this post.

    They do some coverage there, although it is a bit sad that from all Clevo laptops existing on the market, they didn't mention any.
     
  39. Robbo99999

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    Yeah, but you don't need to pay $4500 for that privilege, you can do that with cheaper notebooks!
     
  40. Papusan

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    Exactly. $150 bucks should be a nice target :rolleyes: $4500-150=Saved $4350 ;)
     
  41. Georgel

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    I was a bit mean towards the performance those ones provide, maybe :oops:...

    But for seriousness, while I cannot do my office with a 200$ - 300$ laptop, I think that something in the 500$ price area would be perfect for office (must absolutely not be Low Voltage for me).

    You know, I was just thinking, when you constantly work with at least 10 - 20 programs open and at least 20 - 30 chrome tabs at all times, you probably cannot work with those really cheap laptops so well either, something in the 500$ - 700$ area is needed for this type of office work.

    I have a feeling that my office work is work is heavier than most people do when doing just office. . .
     
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    Wrong post, please delete.
     
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    I reckon you'd want a notebook with i7 CPU, 8 or 16GB RAM (depending on how much RAM your programs use), SSD, and GPU probably doesn't matter much.
     
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    Yep, that is what I thought as well!

    8GB of RAM is insufficient, I tested that. 16 GB is also very borderline with me having ran out of RAM with 32, looking to buy more RAM...

    As for SSD vs HDD, I would recommend everyone to go full SSD if possible. HDDs are great for storage, not great for something that needs very fast access times or quick switching.
     
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    I supposed it depends on budget. If you're looking to cut corners I always start with SSD storage, since it's easily upgradeable later and there's a lot of media types that are unaffected by access time, like music or movies.
     
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    @Georgel - yup, this is why I suggest skipping the expensive PCIE x4 drives, and either get double the storage for the same $ or halve the cost and put the money to good use elsewhere.

    RAM on the other hand is good to get spec'd as you need it right off, no sense sparing out 4GB / 8GB parts later to move up to 16GB parts - it's a waste of $ for those 2x4GB and 2x8GB parts to sit in a drawer.

    At least with storage you can put them into external SATA III USB 3.x cases and make use of them.

    I don't think there are PCIE x4 external cases yet, are there?

    I guess the tiny PCIE x4 M.2 SSD's sit in a drawer too? With no socket available to make use of them they are a waste as well.
     
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    Oh man I almost forgot about PCIe x4 definitely unnecessary to the majority of users and another great place to cut costs.
     
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    The Azerbook 21X is soon history. Thanks God!! Run and buy, NOW if you want the ultimate Jokebook @Mr. Fox @Phoenix @ThePerfectStorm @hmscott +++ And the nice BIG suitcase can be useful when the soldered hardware go up into flames!!

    "The company will only produce 300 of such machines (referring to 300 Spartans?), each of which will have an individual number. The Acer Predator 21 X will ship in a Pelican-style case that can be “repurposed” and actually be used as a luggage."

    [​IMG]

    Edit. I replied in the comment section...
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    Haha for the kind of price they sell those things for, you could buy a fully loaded P870KM1 and a used car.

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    But, but the curved 21” screen and the BIG suitcase? Yooo can't get this if yoo opt for P870KM1 :(
     
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