What a waste of money. Desktop, either in mini or normal form factor with MMX is tragic. Only positive with this is that MMX graphics still can be manufactured and purchased.
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I'd rather have there be a demand for MXM and for more companies to utilize it and give it a reason to be used than just Clevo making them, personally. I agree that it's silly as a desktop, but more support is good.bennyg, TBoneSan, Ionising_Radiation and 2 others like this.
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Yeah, one hopes that we can one day pick one up off the retail shelves and upgrade our MXM laptops without jumping through hoops.Templesa and Ionising_Radiation like this.
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The more the desktop world gets involved with MXM is a good sign, hopefully the broad cross-vendor standards start trickling down. So long as compatibility is (mostly) locked to a vendor's ecosystem, volumes will remain low, prices high, and aftermarket will remain niche (and get more so given the thin'n'BGA infestation in notebooks)
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That would be amazing. I could only dream of walking into a best buy / futureshop / etc on the release of the Nvidia 12x0 series, grabbing an MXM board off the shelf and shoving it in my laptop the same day. That's the kind of world I want for my children.TBoneSan and Ionising_Radiation like this.
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More of the same trashy TRIPOD Cpu heatsink design Review of Eurocom Q5 (Clevo P957HR, i7-7700HQ - GTX 1070 Max-Q)
Cons
-slower GTX 1070 Max-Q performance than the Zephyrus; slower GPU clock rates
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Is there actually any way to maintain turbo clocks on none HK cpus for laptops?
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No!! They forget the delay due high polling frequency. NBC talk stupidity... As they stated. "Enabling Maximum fan mode has some interesting effects on the Q5. When running Witcher 3, the CPU becomes locked in the 3.7 to 3.8 GHz range while the GPU will run slightly faster at a steady 1316 MHz." Is pure Stupidity!!
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Because the asus has a 1080mq so of course it's gonna be slower.
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ThePerfectStorm Notebook Deity
I think they were comparing it to the 1070 Max-Q Zephyrus.
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They're mostly comparing to the Asus GX501VS with Max Q 1070
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How Much Battery Does Nvidia’s BatteryBoost Save Your Gaming Laptop?
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Lenovo Legion Y520-15IKBN (7300HQ-GTX 1050 Ti) Laptop Review-Notebookcheck.com
Is this ONE or TWOPOD Cpu heatsink?
Fully throttling although temp is below 80C (Can't even hold Cpu base clock frequency)
![[IMG]](images/storyImages/Lenovo_Y520_15IKBN_Stress.jpg)
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Robbo99999 Notebook Prophet
Ha, no way, it's a 2 pod CPU heatsink if you're lucky judging from that photo, I'm surprised the core temperatures are even, a big surprise!Papusan likes this. -
Eurocom Support Company Representative
We just launched standard size GTX 1070 MXM3.0b 82x105mm GPU. Here are some benchmark results of gtx 1070 and P5000 in some of our older models:
1070 Panther 5
https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/22488557
1070 Scorpius 3D2
https://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/12411928
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What about compatibility of this 1070 with clevo P170EM(sager NP9170)? And could i received from you a couple of photos that shows the set of "1060" for p170em? I'm really wondering what means that "power cable" in the offert:
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High End Gaming in your PALM - ASRock DeskMini GTX
MXM GPU pricing is too high
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i saw that eurocom makes a little update in offert:
questions remain unanswered, nice
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Couldn't help but notice linus say there's rumors nVidia wants to end support for MXM all-together.
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nVidia is up to something!
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And you think so?
Max-Qrippled and 1070Ti tell you something else.
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When does the Nvidia GT 1040 come? Will it ever come? Kinda waiting for something in between the mx150 and 1050 gtx... (which should be similar to 750Ti or 960m performance).
Btw. if anyone stumbles across the rumor of an Ideapad 320s having a GT 1040 on a polish website - this has been corrected (changed to mx150).
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How can one avoid those Qrippled versions? Which videocards do come in this flavor exactly? For example, is there like a 0 chance to get a crippled 1050ti? Or all Pascal GTX cards will also come in crippled form?
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Avoid "thin and light's" or anything with a max Q tag.
Edit: also it's limited to just laptop cards. Any desktop card that isn't running to full potential is just defective.
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Ionising_Radiation ?v = ve*ln(m0/m1)
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True enough I suppose. I should rather state "any machine who's reviews point to insufficient cooling for its assigned hardware."
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Will the 1070ti be made into a mobile GPU? It would make far more sense to slot it into the Max-Q 1080 slot.
The 1070 Ti is Stupid Because Vega Sucks
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Nvidia could easily designed a 1070Ti for laptops. But why create something who decrease their earnings vs. throw out crippled 1080? And Max-Q series graphics will let Nvidia have extended deadline to meet OEM's demands for new graphics in next refreshed models.hmscott likes this.
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Well, it might just be that the 1070ti is a shaved 1080, shaved in a different way than the Max-Q 1080, so it accomplishes the same goal, sell a sub-1080 level GPU for the same price as the 1080
If the 1070ti takes off, gets popular on the desktop, I'm thinking a mobile part can't be too far behind
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It seems only the 1060, 1070 and 1080 have Max Q variants. Notebooks should have the Max Q branding visible. Problem is finding it in cases where they bury them deep within the specifications or manual.
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It's best to avoid Nvidia all together, and just get AMD Ryzen / Vega laptops
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Robbo99999 Notebook Prophet
Not if you want the best GPU performance possible.Georgel, hmscott and ThePerfectStorm like this. -
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Being a little less fast is evil?
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Well, when you live on the cutting edge of technology, it isn't the best compromise...
if I didn't need the absolute best I could get, I probably wouldn't care so much about those things, but I really need me some performance.hmscott likes this. -
That's up to you!
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IDK, it's easy to look at 2 numbers and pick the highest performance of the two, it's a whole 'nuther thing to decide which is the best solution to a problem, is the extra money worth the time savings? Are there time savings?
In the end, it's stuck in a box under a desk, or in a server room, nobody's gonna see it, they just want to submit their jobs for processing, slay the dragons on the screen, and keep doing that day after day with money left over for other things.
You have to figure out if that premium for a little more performance makes any difference, or whether smart configuration and tuning will make up the difference, and multiply that over 100's or 1000's of units in many sites.
If you are tossing the top end FPS off with G-sync, who needs to pay more to get nothing?
IRL I find it's rarely the most expensive "fastest" solution that ends up getting selected, it's the balanced solution that makes the bottom line go up.
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Well... At the end of the day, I don't even know anymore... I just need to do my work faster, you don't want to wait minutes to process everything all the time. But I think that the CPU has more impact for me in particular.hmscott likes this.
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Asus ROG Strix GTX 1070 Ti
Its 1070ti Launch Day!!!!
Colorful GTX 1070 Ti Vulcan X Tear-Down: GP104-300 Unveil
MSI GeForce GTX 1070 Ti Unboxing & Teardown
Palit GeForce®GTX 1070 Ti Super Jetstream (EN)
Gamers Rejoice – GeForce GTX 1070 Ti Coming Nov. 2
https://blogs.nvidia.com/blog/2017/10/26/geforce-gtx-1070-ti/
"We designed the GeForce GTX 1070 Ti to be an overclocking monster with plenty of headroom for gamers to crank up the clock speeds. And our partners have built cards with thermals and power supplies that allow gamers to push performance way past stock specifications."
Nvidia finally announce the GTX 1070 Ti, and it's an overclocking monster
https://www.pcgamesn.com/nvidia-1070-ti-launch
"Nvidia claim they “designed the GeForce GTX 1070 Ti to be an overclocking monster, with plenty of headroom for gamers to crank up the clock speeds.” Well, that dispels those rumours…
Check back on November 2nd for our full review along with in-depth benchmarking of the GTX 1070 Ti."
Now we need Nvidia to settle in to their new building, and get the 1070 ti mobile solution out the door to replace the Max-Q 1080 in laptops.
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Asus ROG Chimera G703 144Hz Gsync GTX 1080 Gaming Laptop Review
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I have a question regarding 1060 Max-Q , I have heard it can be overclocked and once overclocked it will perform at same level as that of 1060 regular(Laptop) , Is it true ? and the amount of overclock is limited by Laptop manufacturer ? or by VBIOS ?
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Curious about the panel used. Can't wait for a proper review.
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Very, very interesting. Definitely one to look out for, especially since on the Asus website, they claim IPS. That would be epic.
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Robbo99999 Notebook Prophet
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Dunno if I should post this here.
https://www.msi.com/Landing/Vortex_G25
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That is a pretty cool something. I wonder how much it will cost tho
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I'm seeing prices of about 2.5k CAD.
My interest is are they gonna bring it over to laptop. Linus tech tips cracked it open and it looks identical to the inside of a laptop. I would be more than eager to see this as a test bed for a tornado f7, gt75, or gt85 style laptop
Edit: i found the video
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You are aware Clevo have been doing multiple lines of laptops with desktop CPUs constantly since intel dropped the mobile PGA socket... P750, P770, P751, P775, P870... The P570WM even had a HEDT socket for 6 and 8 core chips... MSI are recently getting into it as well with the one 15" model, and rumours say a 17" ice lake (late 2018) is coming too.
The Vortex series itself is a bit of a joke. Extremely expensive. And if the G65VR is anything to go by they are happy to dump support after 6 months and leave their $3k customers languishing with year old driver package.
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I am aware, they have been on my radar for some time. I'm just hoping to see more options so that we see more competition and inovation.
I wont disagree on the vortex being bad.
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Hey guys I have a question to those who own a laptop with a 1060gtx.
My card usually boosts to 1886 mhz but as soon as the gpu load reaches 97-99% it immediately downclocks to stock speed. (The boost goes away completely). Initially i thought that it is temperature related but i was able to rule that out by running firestrike on fresh boot and the gpu clocks only go to max stock speed on the scene where the gpu is strained, after that i tried playing doom demo and the clock stays at 1886 mhz throughout while maintaining a temp of 73 c. Anyone experienced anything like this before? It seems to me that the clock runs at max boost when the gpu isnt near max load and reverts to stock clock at max load.
Thanks in advance
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