*Official* nVidia GTX 10xx Series notebook discussion thread

It will be 10 - 20% faster than 980m. But not as fast as desktop 980.

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That is excellent if you think about it. Desktop 970 performance in a xx60 part! Easily OCable to somewhere between 980 and 980ti levels!

MXM please!!!!!!!

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Link to many game benchmarks, mobile GTX 1060 vs mobile Maxwell:
http://www.purepc.pl/notebooki/hyperbook_ms16l1_premierowa_recenzja_laptopa_z_gtx_1060?page=0,6

 

Yup, thanks for the link, I'm not sure why some feel the need to argue this: 1060 mobile should be a bit below 980 (and considerably ahead of 980M), while the desktop 1060 is faster than the 980. It's been documented many times at this point

 

from what i read it's not worth the upgrade unless you overclock it which i wouldn't do in a laptop. here's a discussion on it. http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...cked-vs-i7-6700hq-3-5ghz-locked.787149/page-2

 

desktop 970 performance is nothing to sneeze at...especially since I'm coming from a GTX 560m (that's not a typo).

 

Cool, I'm still waiting to see some more reviews about how well the MSI GS43VR handles heat before deciding whether to buy it. If you do buy, it'd be awesome if you could post your impressions of it here and in the GS43 thread too: http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/msi-gs43.793376/

I'd especially love to see how it looks if you end up having XoticPC put a stealth wrap on it!

 

Well, I'm coming from a 460m on my elderly asus G53sw... it's time for an upgrade.

 

Oh don't get me wrong, I'm a big fan of Pascal, I'm on Intel 520 right now I just think it is a good idea to know if the VM performs like a true mobile 1060 or if something is causing it to fall back to 980M performance. Makes a big difference when thinking about VM vs VS. If it does throttle, may as well go for the GS43VR which is almost 2lbs lighter. When buying I generally start by finding the lightest for a given graphics card and then work my way up as I find something wrong with them (throttling, features, whatever).

 

550m here.

This will be my first real gaming laptop. I have it narrowed down to the MSI GT73VR Titan 017 or the Clevo P670RS. I just want to see some reviews on the 670RS and see what kind of display quality, cooling and fan noise.

 

Just had a chat with Eurocom, apparently no 1070 MXM upgrade kit for 750ZM.

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That 1070 is the MSI variant. Closest to mxm 3.0B but still wider along one side and has this silly tab jutting out at the top.

Clearly designed not to work in a standard mxm 3.0b laptop. Irritating

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In that case, I will wait for some Prema love in regards to Egpu over TB3. Nvidia and associates can go and milk themselves.

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Or do what I did, got a desktop.. More details coming soon

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I dont think they all realize how many of us are going that route.

 

According to Frank Azor's twitter comment, they are unveiling their Pascal line up on Sept 5-7 during a live stream at PAX. I'm sorry I can't link it here as I'm on the go using a mobile phone.


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It is very sad. Death of the forum! A few posts back I read a comment "i wouldnt overclock in a laptop.." gawd...

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Guess we'll have to play the waiting game a bit longer...
My money is here! eGPU makers just have to make it so they can take it!

 

The majority of DTR people are considering that without guarantees or better pricing. Seriously, a 1080, just because it is mobile, costs $350 more AND must have cooling on top for upgrades, something desktops don't deal with. The video is the most expensive component in our machines, meaning it makes sense to pay less for more or equivalent if we can. I love DTR, especially with desktop cpus, but the mobile cards are killing me since this is the first machine I did that to...

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Given nvidia's fancy charts showing the explosive growth of the laptop gaming market, I don't think they give a care that some power uses are going back to desktops. Neither the death of standard MXM nor the heat of Pascal will reverse gaming laptop growth either. It's incredibly unfortunate though.

 

Crapbook + Desktop combo seems like the most reasonable route to go.

 

I can tell you that it's nice running a machine that is dead silent at 4.7GHz and maintains an average of 70C under load on a 3 year old GC Extreme paste job. Now I just need a quieter card than my 780 Ti to go with it. But neither the CPU or GPU throttle, something I can't say for my laptop which I have to put power limits on to keep the heat under 90C.

 

Would've done it if I wasn't in the Navy. That's why laptops are my to-go.

 

Understandable. I can't lie, a laptop with a desktop GPU is attractive. Have to work with what you got.

 

Found it... GTX 1060 MXM card (MSI variant) Looks like standard MXM 3.0b size. Can't stress enough that is the MSI upgrade path promise being fulfilled (my 2 cents)

http://www.purepc.pl/image/artykul/...emierowa_recenzja_laptopa_z_gtx_1060_11_b.jpg

 

I've been hearing rumors of an "overclocked" Maxwell refresh M series lineup for cheap notebooks (1050M and below). But I don't think that will pan out.

 

True. That's why I bought the MSI GT72S with the 980. Lol
Either way, eGPU or upgrade kit, whichever comes first, I'll buy. Though I don't know where I can buy it here in Spain...

 

I'm glad I went desktop a couple years ago. It got addicting fast and I found myself an amazing setup. One that I wish I had as a younger me.

I'll keep my desktop for home use as DTR makes no sense to me for home use and keep a mid range laptop for the road. If I worked a normal 9-5 sleep in my own bed every night job I probably wouldn't even need or want a laptop.

So far the GTX 1060 is far exceeding my expectations and Gsync both at home and on the road is amazing. If the screen was 120hz or 144hz or would be perfection for me. I expect this laptop will last me at least 2 yeas of acceptable gaming.

 

I hear you. I get 4.5 ghz and run hotter on my laptop, but my 980m stays cooler. Meaning I'm close to your desktop, but once you have the cooling for a desktop (like a water loop), upgrading is so much easier and you get better performance for the same cost... Hell, I still don't get passing $1k for a mobile x chip (paid $230 for my 2960xm years later)...

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Unfortunately I've heard from friends in the right places that TB3 eGPUs have a problem with latency, and that the fix is a hardware one. That is (supposedly) the reason why we've been seeing so many of these external docking stations that never fully materialize, except for the MSI and Alienware implementation that uses straight PCIe. The exception is the Razer Core in that it is available, but apparently it has this problem too. The issue is not lower fps or scores, but the delay involved, apparently it is like 50+ms which makes competitive/fast-paced gaming untenable as well as VR.

There's some vague circumstantial evidence that supports this but I can't find anything concrete.
https://insider.razerzone.com/index.php?threads/new-egpu-dock-acer.12249/page-2
https://www.techinferno.com/index.p...have-too-much-latency-and-overhead-for-egpus/

 

hope it works on older gt60 laptops !! (crossing my fingers)

 

ok I'm buying from pcspecialist the new defiance III (clevo P651rs) with gtx1070 m .. I hope I wont regret it

 

I was checking them. But can't find notification of Gsync. Do they provide it ? ( even if on en 1080P 60hz with a 1070, i doubt you will see drops under 60fps ).

BTW i saw they provide a 2880x1620 screen on defiance 3 <3

 

theoretically the notification of G-sync should be on the videocard option .. at least I think that's how their website works ...

if you try to configure the previous model for example the defiance II (clevo p650rg) you can see that in the video card selector there is no G-sync label while in the defiance III it is there.

 

Not that my glove's in the ring but I'm very curious why no one mentions RJTech--they sell the new Clevo's in barebone form (some can even be bought without battery ).

 

Im planning to get this next week http://www.webhallen.com/se-sv/dato...00hq-16gb-275gb_ssd-gtx1070_8gb_g-sync-win_10

What do you guys think is this the cheap clevo model with bad cooling and lcd screen? This is the P670RS-G

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Because it works out to be much more expensive and with far less or no warranty to go that route and with Clevo, you always want the warranty.

 

I didn't know that clevo had a bad cooling system ... this morning someone wrote that 1 over 5 has bad cooling ...

Anyway ... I have the option to chose between 180 and 200 w power adapter ... what are the differences ? what do you suggests ?

thank you

 

As far as I know the statement usually means "clevo has good cooling systems but a history of poor assembly/quality control". On some of their units, they definitely had a problem seating the heatsinks correctly - part of it was a design flaw leaving too much flex even when the screws were tightened 100%, and part of it was sloppy assembly.

 

This is the first piece of good news. Only downside is that I hear Pascal forces eDP. Old laptops without it fully implemented may not work with the internal LCD.

Perhaps time will tell on this one. If this is indeed the only MXM 3.0b card out there someone is bound to test it in an older machine...also there is a chance Nvidia *might* add LVDS support for this card as it is part of this upgrade deal for older hardware. Got to be hopeful!

If it works we ought to be happy. A card that runs as cool as the 970M but that delivers like a desktop 970 and perhaps better. Price?

 

Clevo heatsinks are notorious for not being flat.

More power gives you more potential for overclocking.

 

So only the MSI GT80 is the only laptop that can be upgraded to 1080, right?

 

and no drawbacks ?
dimensions are the same?
because i can get it at the same price of 180W
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P870DM-G can be upgraded to a single 1080.

200W would be larger to accommodate the extra heat.

 

I ended up with the ASUS ROG GL502VS. It felt like the best balance between the three laptops that I wanted. First, I really wanted a 1070 gpu. I just know how I am, the second I see any stuttering from the 1060, I'll get pissed and regret not spending the extra $200. Second, the MSI had too small an SSD for my taste; these days, WoW alone is 50 GB, tack on Windows 10 and you're out of space, all games will run from the standard HDD. And that Chinese review showed some seriously high temps that turned me off a bit. Who knows what its really like when you're not pushing the GPU to ultra, which I don't often do, but 84c?? That's TJmax territory. I have a feeling they did everything in their power to max system temps, but damn that's scary.

The Clevo, I heard some rumors about ****ty cooling, but I guess we shall see. I just wasn't in love with it, I know it's essentially the same as this ASUS, but it just wasn't doing it for me. Heavier as well.

So the goal is take this ASUS one and get that wrap treatment from xoticpc you mentioned.

 

Netbooks (p)review said they were all basically the same....lol. In their closing statement. I dint write it.

 

Hush-hush. That's bad enough to be somehow realistic

28nm Maxwells must be now super cheap and easy to produce, especially compared to brand new 16nm Pascals, with likely much worse yields (and supply shortages).

AMD's offering in this category will just reach GTX 965M level, so overclocked Maxwells would be easily competitive.

I'm sure Jen-Hsun had felt the temptation. Let's hope this wouldn't pan out ...

 

I went ahead and re-read it but I did not find anything of the sort. You meant this article right?
http://www.notebookcheck.net/Asus-ROG-Strix-GL502VS-Notebook-Preview.171567.0.html

In fact I quote from there "It is, however, 6.6 mm thinner as well as 100 grams lighter" and note they say it weighs 2.6 kg (5.73 pounds) with a 570g (1.26 pound) power brick vs ASUS's 2.3kg claim (which many sites seem to be converting into pounds with some rounding and losing weight in the process, lol, e.g. Xotic for example states 4.9 pounds).

 

I'll weigh it as soon as I get it.

 

My next move will based on your review!