Ok crap i have to get Aion, at least try it!

WoW wasnt made for people who play games, it was made for anyone that has $15 to blow a month, i hated WoW alot, to be quite honest

 

I completely agree. I've quit 3 times now. Only reason I started/restarted was because my friends wanted me to play. Guild Wars was a much better game and actually required skill and coordination...and wait for it...was an NCsoft game.

 

WOW has kept my attention because majority of my friends still play. But the fact everything is dependent on gear makes it hard for me to enjoy anymore. I was never a fan of arenas.

I liked Guild Wars alot, but none of my friends wouldn't even give it a shot

That is why I am hoping you guys assemble an NBR Aion guild, so I can make friends with the many cool people from these forums and have some fun regardless of my real life friends playing or not.

 

i was the same, quit many times only came back for friends and it never lasted long, found it quite boring and easy, i played guildwars and FFXI to pass the time than hopped right into Aion once the chinese servers opened up cause they ip banned the korean ones for out of country players.

i have a level 34 elyos chanter currently on the chinese version of the game and i love it

 

Please link me the armory of this 50k hp Druid, I'd love to see it.

And you were one of the few people that could offtank Patchwerk? Sitting there taking hatefuls is serious business I guess.

 

Man, 50k health. Thats like 2 of my Shaman lol!

 

Honestly, I don't think it looks that good.

Ill wait for blade and soul or something( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EtA1jSreK84). Or not...I've kinda grown away from mmo's.

 

Completely understandable. With the rise of WoW and then poorly done knock offs in just 2 years time, even a few of my hardcore MMO friends are recently starting to draw away from the MMO world.

And I can't understand this "challenging" issue. MMOs aren't challenging. All they take is some time and getting used to the "flow" of the game. They're not like FPS and RTS games where you need to adapt to millions of different scenarios online.

And like most of the people here, for the past year, I've only been playing WoW maybe every other night just for a few hours. Mostly to just help out my buddies. Other then that, I'd log off and just do something else. There's no drive for WoW anymore. I've repeated from scratch so many times I can probably go from 1-60 with my eyes closed

One big misconception that's going around is the grinding. People assumed just because it was done by a Korean studio known for making grind heavy games, this one was too. Not the case. It's already very similar to WoW in regards to leveling. Patch 1.5 has added a lot of dungeons and crap ton of quests, and from what my fellow Korean peeps have told me in the Korean version, no grinding is needed to hit max level if you do most of the quests.

Well, soloing is very doable in Aion, but being in a group has big bonuses. Crap ton XP if you do stuff together from what I heard...and it's not a good idea hanging solo in the Abyss, cause most people roam in groups there. But they won't force you to group like FFXI did.

And yes, you're computer is completely fine for Aion. At mid settings, the laptop in my sig pumps out about ~40FPS. They utilized the Crytek engine well. WoW at absolute low settings runs much slower on the same computer

 

I can't get on the Armory, due to work comp, but search for "Tarsonis" on Hakkar Horde server, Tauren Druid. Guild was Brutality, but I don't know if they're still around or not. I believe it was 45k prebuff and 50k+ during raids. Some of the gear/skills may have gotten nerfed over the last 7 months though, but I can't confirm/deny this seeing as I haven't been following WoW recently.

And the fact that I was one of few people that could tank him even though it's not hard to, just shows how little skill the game takes.

 

I never got that much into GW's, but I quit WoW recently, maybe I should try it again, are the servers still populated and alive?

 

theres not really any servers in guild wars (unless its changed since i left) the cities are giving extra slots based on thier population, you can go to a high populated area like lions arch and there will be alot of people then go to beetleton and there are only a couple. the game is still well populated, but since it is instanced you will only really see people in the capital cities, or in towns with alot of quests (or a mission). you wont have problems finding a group though if thats what your asking.

 

err yeah that's what I meant, I remember the instances, and going in with the npc's, and that whole ascension thing, think I will get back into it, if I reinstalled D2 then why not GW, thanks ^^

 

Really, you find stand in X spot, hit Y key at Z time to be difficult?
I put it on the "difficulty scale" somewhere around tying my shoes by myself....

I REALLY feel sorry for you if you believe your ub3r l33t sk1lz for playing WoW or frankly any other MMORPG are something special.

MMORPGs are about investment of time and social skills.
Clicking or pressing a few buttons repeatedly are not difficult by any means.

This should be obvious as every player on the planet and his monkey gets to endgame in WoW and everyone who isn't a complete idiot succeeds.
/faceroll is quite frankly a valid tactic in WoW as long as you properly assign hotkeys.

They make them because some of us enjoy a game which separates the wheat from the chaff. We want to play with people who know what their class does and why and with mature, longer-term reward system.

While I actually agree with the pot-spamming quip, (L2 has plenty of flaws) I have no idea how you could like the "art" of WoW over L2 or Aion.

Maybe you just like looking like some toddler drawing... The rest, I don't think you really understand the other longer-term games due to a shorter attention span for MMORPGs.

 

Patchwerk is a joke and we send 30k tanks at em all day long.

And I laugh at the comment about tanking being difficult and healing easy. Granted nothing is difficult in that game Tanking is in no way more difficult than healing. Unless you had some killer spell rotation when you solo tanked patchwerk that we all just don't know about.

 

ONe's definition of difficulty varies per game. Honestly, I'd say 99% of games with "difficulty" involve pressing a certain button at a given time, whether that be a certain heal spell on an MMO, a shot on a FPS, a timing puzzle on an adventure game etc. I mean, you can only go so far with difficulty in terms of advancements in the given peripherals. IMO, the most "difficult" games involve playing against others since others are in general quite unpredictable, unlike any type of AI. Seriously, tetris against my friend is BRUTAL O_O

I will be honest though, if you dislike MMOs, I fail to see the reason to try this one and then trash it beacuse MMOs do follow a similar pattern and nobody is re-inventing the wheel here >.>

Anyhow, I think Aion's graphics seem more akin to Guild Wars which is good. Wonder if they'll have as good compatibility as GW did(i.e. can play on most machines).

 

Tanking 1 boss is easy, healing 1 boss is easy. Tanking a boss fight where multiple things spawn around the room to attack a 25 man raid, or tanking multiple bosses that require skill and timing to exchange out the tanks (4 horsemen) takes a little bit of skill. Spamming heal on the tanks doesn't take skill. I believe the fastest non-heal over time spell is a 1 second cast. Compare that to 1/4 second casts in guild wars. Anyways, I've played a healer and a Dpser, so I can legitimately say tanking is the hardest thing to do.

And ironically I did solotank patchwerk once, until he enraged (our other tank got 1 shot'd) at about 10% hp and wiped us.

 

This your character?

Cuz he's only got 30k?

 

He said he had 50k with buffs didn't he?

 

He put "I believe it was 45k prebuff and 50k+ during raids"

 

Well he believes it was, hence he didn't remember well >.>

 

30k in Caster form... so an additional what, 60% stam in Bear form?

 

i thought we were talking about aion. the last like 2 pages have been just world of warcraft. (ick be tee dub.)

 

It's certainly not rocket science, but if it's so easy how do so many people manage to fail so spectacularly at it?

By your own logic, how is standing in spot X pressing button Y at Z time for 6 months any more difficult than doing it for 1 month? And how does that magically impart such an amazing knowledge of your class? All it does is encourage more bots.

WoW has an awful and dated graphics engine that I never really liked that much, but at least it has character and its own sense of identity, unlike Asian MMO #8464.

 

Got to level 11 before the beta finished, though I only played for 4-5 hours. So far, its not bad. The storyline is pretty good, the wings are so fun to use

 

I fail to see who WoW is exactly oh so much different than the other MMOs. Most MMOs resemble each other in terms of mechanics... This one included. I've looked at a friend play the beta and it looks decent enough for those who enjoy the genre.

 

Aion is going to cost the same I believe.

MOREEEE DOTTTTSS MORE DOTSS!!!

Oh and cant wait to give aion a try when i get home.

 

st0nedpenguin - You've made your point. Now please go troll somewhere else... Played AION beta last weekend and barely finished my class change to a Glad. It really starts to pick up at that point. Gonna give it a go when it comes out..

 

How's the Glad? I'm having a hard time deciding between rolling an Assassin or a Gladiator as my first character. I like the idea of being both essential to raiding (I'm assuming there's some form in this game) and pvp. The Gladiator sounds like he'll be able to Off-tank, DPS, and PVP well, while the Assassin looks to only do the latter 2 of those.

 

The next beta test starts tomorrow

 

Any information on where to apply for the Beta? I would really like to try it

 

I believe you must spend the $5.00 for a pre-order of the game and you get a beta key which you can use to register on Aion's site for all subsequent open beta events. See the link below:

Aion Pre-purchase Program

 

ok I'll head over to Game Stop tomorrow

 

I think I do too, I really wont have the time to play the real game too often. My only fear is it feels like WAR (warhammer online) to me too much. Like how the beta is being distributed via preorder and it has the same kind of mass pvp game system.

I managed to get a pre-order for $1 for WAR as Target was selling there pre-order box for $0.99 and it had a beta code in it.

Anybody know how much longer the beta will continue so I can decide if its worth the $5 for a test drive?

 

Well remember game stop will give you cash back if you don't want the game

 

True most places do give your money back, you just have to decide if its worth all the effort.

If it was online I would do it, not sure if I would drive up to the store though.

 

If I buy the preorder today, will I get access to the beta tomorroww? Really wanting to give this game a try.

 

Not sure if anyon mentioned it yet. But you can now preorder it through Steam too.

 

Does steam do money back and give you instant beta code? lol

Answered my own question.

Steam Preorder - Full cost of game

Pre-Sale offer includes:

• 37 days of free play when the full game releases.
• Access to beta and preview events
• Special in-game items
  • Attribute Boosting Hat
  • Experience boosting Talisman
  • Exclusive special effects ring (Water)

Also, pre-purchasing on Steam gets you an invite to the pre-release closed-beta events!
Closed Beta Event #5
Starting time: July 31 (12:00 PM PST, 9:00 PM CEST, 8:00 PM BST)
Ending time: August 3 (12:00 PM PST, 9:00 PM CEST, 8:00 PM BST)
Focus: Elyos and Asmodian levels 1-30
Closed Beta Event #6
Starting time: August 14 (12:00 PM PST, 9:00 PM CEST, 8:00 PM BST)
Ending time: August 17 (12:00 PM PST, 9:00 PM CEST, 8:00 PM BST)
Focus: TBD
For anyone confused about these time standards, PST is the time on the US west coast, BST is what to look at if you're in London and CEST is for those of you in Central Europe.
For more info regarding beta events please go to NCSoft's Aion web site http://www.aiononline.com.

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Aion on full settings looks great. Been playing since CB2. Pity they limited where we can fly, but I understand the reasoning.

 

back to beta in few hrs
I a glad at 21 so far and it's very interesting. lots of teamplay, can't solo.

 

Bah, sure you can Just not in the rift areas or you're toast.

 

Well, Aion is scheduled for release in late September if I remember correctly, so really, beta opportunties are starting to wane as the release date swiftly approaches.

WoW's graphics were intended to be timeless... that is, as time wore on, the graphics engine was meant to appeal to a wide range of gamers regardless of new graphical techologies. The graphics in WoW are still as relevant today as they were when WoW was first released, and this is a huge part of WoW's success simply because the game is so accessible to gamers with all types of system hardware.

 

Meh, its only a fiver, I'll preorder it and fingers crossed get access to the beta event in a couple of hours

 

Yeah I am going to pass on beta, and it just is scary how much it reminds me of WAR so I am skeptical.

I'll wait for release and feedback and maybe just buy the game if I see its doing well and its something a casual player without much time on there hands can enjoy.

I like the public quest system of WAR, that was one really neat casual player idea, but problem was the odd hours I played nobody was in the area often to help with it

 

The downside is there is no swimming

 

Exactly right! The reason why my wife and I stopped playing WAR was specifically due to this fact. What's the point of invoking a player quest system when there's no one to help you complete them? I spent countless hours being frustrated and annoyed that my wife and I had to mostly solo the game because there wasn't anyone on to do PQ's with.

 

Ouch, just checked Amazon UK and Play, £28 for the pre-order just so I can access betas? No thanks.

I can't check Steam at the moment, at work, how much is it?

 

Only Beta left are supposed to be CB5 this weekend and then Open Beta in 2 weeks. There might be a longer Open Beta, but I don't know.

 

I'm so tempted to shell out the 30quid, but not through Steam. Probably through their own site, but if I order now will I get access to the beta tonight?

 

Clannies from another game are playing right now and the reports aren't great.

-Level system is WoW-ish... meaning everyone who isn't a complete twit will be max level in no time. They really shouldn't bother with levels if they don't teach you to play. You can expect max level newbies(duh, whats a skill chain? Why didn't you heal me - from across the zone and behind a wall when I wasn't the main tank and pulled 50 mobs?) being 99% of the population, just like WoW.

-The previous point wouldn't be quite so bad if there was something to do once there... apparently there isn't. (it is beta though...)

-PvP and PvE seem to be pretty heavily favored for the dark side.
Examples: Dark side storyline quests require killing easy mobs that can easily be soloed. Similar light side storyline requires killing group mobs that are very difficult to solo at best and usually bring others and thus require a group... and not just any group... if anyone is not paying attention you can and will wipe.
Darkside PvP abilities seem more useful by far (keep in mind this is second-hand so I don't have a direct comparison)

-Damage dealers seem to be heavily overbalanced. Most of them can and do one or two-shot, so healing is pointless in PvP. (to be fair, this is beta... a little unbalance is part of it)

-Graphics are beautiful, until you actually try to get up close to something... then they suck. Sure, those mountains look nice in the background, but if you ever try to look at them up close, they kinda remind you of bad props or sets. (to be fair, this might be a graphical glitch)

-You cannot play with friends from europe or anywhere else as it stands right now. This is supposedly designed to eliminate bots... but frankly, most of the North American servers are botted from NA from games like WoW and L2.


I'd like to point out that this does indeed remind me of WAR.
This doesn't mean I won't try Aion, it just means I am quite wary at this point as L2 seems to remain a better game.