Pascal: What do we know? Discussion, Latest News & Updates: 1000M Series GPU's

There were two MSI models with notebook GTX 1080 mentioned in some of the leaks (GT73VR Titan Pro and GT83VR Titan SLI).

https://tipidpc.com/viewitem.php?iid=40066463
http://www.laptop4pro.vn/msi-gt73vr...6gb-512gb-ssd-1tb-g3-gtx-1080m-8gb-p2048.aspx
http://www.pccorner.com.ph/products.do?action=showproductdetail&categoryid=88&productid=7114
http://coretech.co.za/products.php

But yes, the most tangible info is just about GTX 1070 and 1060.

 

@Meaker@Sager
At least tell us whether there is gonna be a Mobile pascal GPU with GDDR5X, it's not against the rule, not asking for 1060, 1070, or 1080

 

There will be no M cards, period.

 

Won't count. Can't work without the dock, it might as well be eGPU'd up.

Unless there'll be a direct liquid cooled mobile laptop? But that sounds like a disaster waiting to happen, especially with ASUS' crappy QA and QC.

Pretty sure the mobile 1080 will have GDDR5X

 

anyone know if a mobile 1080 will work in an MSI GT72s which currently has a 8gb GTX980m card?

 

Meanwhile, I'm just sitting here, twiddling my fingers. I'll see Pascal when it comes to notebooks; for now, I have my faithful GTX 860M.

 

Since that 980M is standard MXM, probably not unless a mobile 1080 has standard MXM.

 

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Is the 1080 mobile expected to come in a non-standard size MXM card?

 

Wish MSI had a rPGA sockted CPU top end machine, atleast one.

Yes, 1080 will be targeted at different TDP > 140W a.k.a no 3.0b standard, we will be lucky if it makes but chances are slim to none.

Also the 1070 is replacing the 980M which was the last MXM3.0b specced top card, only that might be in this form factor also the 1060 that was replacing 970M has chance but as pointed out by d2 the 1060 is a mere GP106 while the 970M was GM204 based not the xx6 based low end, My fear is there might be only 2 MXM (Not to confuse with 3.0b and the MXM) cards this time since the TDP might be lower at 65-70W tops, OEMs wouldn't care much about the form factor with this low end GP106 mobile card also given there are no more refrence PCBs for the MXM 3.0b spec, sadly this 1060 is a low end card while the 970M was a bit high end side. Finally the 3.0b related 1070 is out of scope with the current knowledge as per leaks. Just hoping for now, people voted with their wallets for the massive BGA flood and this is result from the AMD's negligence and the huge less knowledgeable customer base.

 

nVidia released no reference MXM formats this time from what I remember, so any "standard" MXM machine that shows up is simply an ODM or OEM requesting or desiring one. Don't expect standard MXM sized 1080s.

They are supposed to have a 1151 socket machine coming out, but nobody knows when exactly.

No, I can't blame BGA for AMD's screwups this time. I sincerely believe AMD's screwups are entirely because AMD won't let go of GCN and doesn't understand how to compete. The RX 480 screwup, them showing off that card competing with a 1080 by running CROSSFIRE (you know, that tech that doesn't work in windowed mode, takes ages to work for new titles, can't be forced with tools like NVPI, and DIDN'T EVEN SCALE PROPERLY in the demo, when they're known for amazing scaling?), and the fact that their only new confirmed mobile GPU based on Polaris I could probably beat by overclocking ONE of my 780Ms (assuming I even *HAVE* to)? They're looking for their crap. Plain and simple.

 

Believe me, knowing the contents of Santa's sack 9 months before Christmas, and not being able to share it without summoning Krampus wrath, is not only a burden, but also a very short lived joy...

 

You knew for a WHOLE 9 MONTHS???
Gosh, you must of been humoured at some of the stuff we said if we was way off on stuff!


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Oh I guarantee you he gets a lot of laughs out of things here. And things that "tech sites" like to report =D.

But when what you know isn't all that nice, I doubt it makes one happy to see so many hopefuls.

 

Yes, this is also my observation. I'm pretty sure the mobile 1050 gets at least 965m performance+some percentages on top of it. So eventually it will have close to 970m performance.


Regarding the confusing in naming:
Actually the card naming is much better than before, because we can now reference to the desktop cards with the same name (because the hardware specs are almost the same, regardless of the underclocks). In the past we couldn't reference to it, because the specs were a lot different. The only "complicated" thing now is, that we have to "convert" to the proper way of naming...

 

Except the 1060 has 100MHz less clockspeed, the 1070 is 2048 cores instead of being 1920 cores, and the 1080 is god knows what.

So... no. It's MUCH more confusing now.

 

No, it's not. The underclocking can totally be neglected because you can overclock anyways. But you can't achieve similar performance if you lack the physical specs. In the above example the 1070 mobile and desktop do not differ much in hardware. But in the past we always had big differences in physical specs. Just compare the specs of a 960 desktop and a 960m, and then the specs of a 1060 desktop vs 1060 mobile. Then say again the current naming is "confusing"...

 

Do you think the p775dm can handle the 1080? Or is the p870dm the only one?

 

I have samsung gamer 7series npc700g7c. I like tha laptop but gtx 675m(fastest mobile fermi eveeeer!!!) is really showing its age. I want to buy 1060 mobile now. Will it be at the same price of 960? I have accepted that 1070 is above my budget but now i am scared that 1060 will pass 1k $ limit.

 

$1700 for 1060. The similar price as 970m laptop.

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It will pass that limit for sure. I expect $1500 for laptops with 1060 and $2000 for those with 1070.

Where was that? The cost of 970m-powered laptop started at 1200 USD when it came out and for 1700 USD you could get one with 980 with basic config.

 

There will be mobile cards whose prices are lower, but they won't hold the M badge, starting with the 1040(M).

 

It's not the first time I stumble upon this 15" Asus Strix laptop with GTX 1070, price a little more than 2.2K.

https://www.tokopedia.com/pemmzyogya/asus-rog-gl502vs-fy057t

 

2.2 Kg for a laptop with gtx 1070?
Wow, i can travel the continents with my future powerful "slim gaming" laptop now
Also, that price is fairly nice considering it is from Indonesian website
I am originally from there (although not living there) but i know this seller "pemmz" from tokopedia n they have their own website pemmz.com
They are notorious for their overpriced laptop because they always import, and tax is stupidly high in indonesia (like 30% for electronics).
So yeah, their trait is adding 400-600$ on top of US based seller price
Roughly the original price should be 1600-1800 $ USD
The light has come indeed

 

Oh wow. What about 1050m then? Will people really invest that much to laptops?

 

The cooling better be damm good for the 1070. The current GL502 strix have some cooling issues (the same with most slim gaming laptops)

 

"Processing time 4 Weeks" is written at the top - roughly in line with a Gamescom announcement

 

Work is springing for a new laptop (my current one is a 2630QM / 560m), with a budget of around 2000USD. Hopefully I can sell my current laptop for $??? and that is on top of the 2k I'm allowed. So maybe I'm looking at $2400 total budget, and hopefully that gets me into a 1070 machine.

 

It's August 3 - where's my mobile Pascal?

 

Trigger finger is intensifying

I believe these leaked 1080M benchmarks are new?

Taken from http://wccftech.com/geforce-pascal-mobility-1080m-1070m-1060m-launching-gamescom/

 

Found this.

http://www.techarp.com/articles/exclusive-nvidia-pascal-mobile-gpu-leak/

Not sure how reliable TechArp is though.

 

Those benchs are so old, I'm surprised WTFtech even cared to mention them. They make very little sense too, since 1070(M) with its specs is already supposed to be at old TITAN X level, while 1080(M) should be way ahead. Of course if Ngreedia really goes "desktop=mobile" road performance-wise (I still have some doubts).

 

970M machines absolutely did not launch at $1200. They were $1500 minimum. 980M machines were no less than $1900.

 

The M series is alive.

 

The M series is dead. Videocardz, who WCCFTech is sourcing, didn't use the M moniker once.

 

WCCFTech just mashed up together a bunch of old rumours, without cleaning up what was already debunked.

E.g. those benchmarks were already verified to come from SLI GTX 980 Asus, not from any Pascal GPU.

If you were following this very thread, in notebook Pascal news you are ahead of pretty much every rumour mill.

 

I can confirm that in Europe prices were somehow similar, just in EUR.

I was buying notebook at that time and the cheapest notebooks with GTX 970M were ~1,600 EUR while notebooks with GTX 980M were reaching ~2,000 EUR.

Also keep in mind there were huge price differences depending on configs - differences in screen / RAM / VRAM / SSD could easily add ~500 USD/EUR. Some markets had only more expensive models while others had more cheap configurations.

 

http://videocardz.com/62790/geforce-gtx-1070-mobile-and-radeon-r9-m480-benchmarks-leaked
1070 for Notebooks benchmarks leaked.

 

So all those rumors about August 3 being the date that we'd learn about Pascal mobile, actually just meant August 3 would be the date we'd learn more rumors about Pascal mobile.

 

Yeah, amd... I'll skip it) Just put it in a mac or lenovo. After 7970M I forgot AMD even exists in mobile market.

Hope Sager includes P775DM2 in their line up this time

 

More like on August 3rd they'd spread a rumor about another date to spread another rumor.

 

Why Sager and not a prema partner site?

 

If you get 51-56 fps on Doom in ultra with gtx 980M what fps should we get with gtx 1070 according to the leaks ?

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Do you see any owners lounge for P775DM? Yeah, me too. Because Sager, for some reason, decided not to sell the unit people have not enough info and support for this model. And here at NBR forums this beast of a machine simply dissolved among other DM models which is a shame. Just look at P870DM)

And hence, Clevo decided to show exactly it's successor at their stand at Computex '16. What is so mysterious about this model?

The way i see it, Sager is a quality control monster. If they don't sell some Clevo units, parts, that means it's in a really low volume to cover US or it simply has quality issues. Correct me if i'm wrong.

 

The vast majority of customers go for 15" or under, why should Sager invest in the P775DM when the P870DM is what those looking for a 17" DTR would go to anyway? With the full 980 and the SLI option, the P870DM is more appealing to those looking for a DTR than the P775DM.

 

I believe you should just look at benchmarks for the 980 Ti. They'll be in that ballpark, though probably a bit slower if the clockspeeds are lower.

 

some sources stated an 1080 is about 30% faster than a 980. That isn't a big difference in power, at least not to me

Price wise, 970m based laptops with 8-16GB RAM, FHD IPS, 17.3", HDD + 128gb SSD, 6700HQ CPU, GTX 970m 3GB, and other things one might expect for this config costed around 1300 USD at launch in Romania. They have dropped about 10% since then.

But 980m configurations costed as much as 3750 USd at launch, with the prices coming down to around 2500 USD for the same configuration now.

970m prices came down much less than 980m prices XD

 

You should stop considering whoever said that, as a "source".

I know you want to feel good about your 980, but please be realistic.

 

It was notebook GTX 1070 that had ~127% of notebook GTX 980 performance.

At this point we know almost nothing about notebook GTX 1080 performance (or specs).

Judging by only which chassis they dared to put it in - it would be likely very power hungry (and probably very fast too).

 

If it's a full 1080, it's around 30% faster than the 980 Ti which would leave the 980 in the dust...