Pascal: What do we know? Discussion, Latest News & Updates: 1000M Series GPU's

I don't think "Cooler boost 4" will make a big difference. Theorically speaking, 10 degrees is reachable. But we are talking about hardware defects here. Some of these new units might as well overheat just like their old siblings..

As for prices and GPU involved, still no idea. I came here to ask the same question. xD

 

Maybe but my guess is like I said in the previous post, the fact that it's called ge72vr and not ge73vr might be the signs that these one would be stuck with 970m. So a new cooling system for same old parts could mean 10°C cooler.

But I think it would still be out of my €1000 budget I don't wanna have to settle for a 960m, really hoping for a 970m laptop at €999 available in France at the end of the month...

 

By the end of the month? Probably not that early.

The announcement is scheduled for the third week (19th). Launches usually come in the weeks thereafter, and won't ship until September.

 

According to the leaks and the names stated in the MSI article:

Yes, the GTT83VR, GT73VR, GS73VR and GS63VR will have Pascal GPUs and *better* cooling.

However, the GT72VR, GT62VR, GE72VR, GE62VR and GP62MVR will only have tweaks from the older counterparts with probably the same old Maxwell GPUs.

 

you mean same old maxwell GPUs

A lot of people were talking about a quick release after annoucement at gamescom to be able to get the "back to school" flow.

 

Ninja'd xD. I just edited it

 

Some new laptops may have the old Maxwell GPU's until the official mobile lineup is announced.

It depends on how fast AMD is.

 

MSI are clearly putting it this way:
If you want "early" access to the latest Pascal tech, the newer GS and GT series will have them. (a.k.a Mr. Overpriced series).

GE and GP will still have Maxwell chips but will feature better cooling and more hardware tweaks.

Now, for those who are tight on budget and can only settle with the 960M or the 970M, the question remains about whether these tweaks are worth it for a very high entry price tag. Sticking with the older models would still be a good idea if the prices happen to drop.

 

Agreed but they old versions haven't dropped that much. 960m a little yes but pretty much nothing for the 970m.
I wanted to move to 17" screen after always having 15" but a 970m 17" are pretty much €1300 free DOS and €1400 with Win 10...

Hoping Gamescom will make vendors start discounts.

 

All you have to do is wait.
The laptops with 970M still cost €1700 here. So no chance for me.

 

Well according to @Prema, the MSI 1070 fitted in the P750DM.. So it will probably be the only upgrade choice for people with the standard MXM 3.0B slot like us.. I think we will be SOL after that.. My worry is that we won't have enough of these GPUs out there from MSI to buy but who knows..

Really feel screwed over by Clevo more and more.. Really really disappointed in them..

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€1700 ?? Damn which country is it ?

What kind of hardware tweaks are we talking about btw ? Msi article is not really clear.

 

Morocco a.k.a 3rd world trash. Few high end laptops sell here and the tax we must pay is over 20%.

The tweaks state as the following:

-Cooler Boost 4 instead of 3: Means the laptops will have more heat pipes and will generate less heat. This usually translates to better overall performance while gaming. The fan size will also be smaller and will generate less noise when the cooler booster is on.
-Better keyboard
-Better sound (with Nahimic 2.0?)

And that's about it. Not really much to be proud of, but it's something. xD

 

According to this site http://pc-konsulten.se/ who sell clevo based laptop says that they have someting big to show in 16 august, Maybe the announcement is a bit earlier then 19 august

 

Does anyone think the GS43VR will launch with 1060 & 128GB SSD + 1TB HDD at 1600 USD? If not, how much should I expect to pay?

 

yeah I think MSI has a timer somewhere that says annoucements on the 16 as well if I remember. The link is somewhere in the last 100 pages of the thread

 

so we just need to wait another 8 days

 

It will be a lot more expensive with these specs.

 

So it looks like our last chance at MXM 3.0B standard rests with 1070 guys! Fingers crossed!

 

At that point , would it even be worth it for me to upgrade my overclocked desktop 980s in my Titan to 1070s? Probably not

 

It will be worth it if you have money to blow since the 1070s should be 980ti level of performance at least..

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For you there seems to be other option as the 980 is not standard MXM 3.0B anyways. Its the rest of us that are stuck between a rock and hard place....not that I can complain regarding the upgrade path of the M15x thus far! Still I was hoping for a final upgrade......wouldnt have ditched 980M for a 260M otherwise

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Let's see how it pans out. I just hope my GT60 can boot it and install drivers as it did with the 980m I'm running now.. Could probably be a tight fit in there with the small extra protrusion..

 

Unlike Skidrow, I think this is around the price range that I would expect it to cost. Maybe a little more at first, but I would be surprised if it was more than 1700 and downright shocked if it was more than 1800.

 

Maybe @majster msi would help

If there's an MXM-B 1070, I think that it would be dialed-down version and it wont be up to 980ti level (since the full mobile 1070 is already there), maybe 980. That's what I gather from the MSi version (the board is 1:1 with their 130W 980), and we all know that Clevo would be all custom, at least it seems so.

 

Yes they are MXM but not MXM 3.0B standard, Until they are officially released we cannot say about the legacy machines upgrades, chances are slim to let you know.

If we check the 980 130W GT80S card It has that upper right protrusion which might be the power connector but as Prema said It doesn't have any power connector, but It strays off a few mm vs the MXM3.0b board on the left side, I think the 75x / 77xZM/DM can fit beacause they are having the wiggle room, rest of the legacy machines might not see the day with this situation, Also the heatsink which is another issue if any of the electronic components are changed then this hole gets further sealed to doom. Very sad, I was like we are getting a 1070, worth holding off !!

Even the P870DM went EOL so quickly. I'm expecting Clevo to say " Yes ! this will be our future format" then only I will be interested in Clevo or that MSI which will be coming with LGA and socketed hardware, same applies. They are so ridiculously priced for that cash one can have a 1080 SLI on a desktop and Keep the 980M machine for on the go, Much much better deal, I was being positive about the new tech and Clevo leaks pointing out single format for all new machines, but the heatsink mods for old machines, non standard MXM cards all the way across brands doesn't sound like a good deal at all for the long run investment as the Kaby will be out soon and maybe Pascal Rev2 will be on board...again EOL ? and be stamped as a jackass and forced to invest again...

 

little OT. I just bought a 965m msi laptop for 800usd and was wondering since i max all games cept unity and witcher 3 and net 30fps should i upgrade already. I was hpoing this laptop would last 4 years now it seems with a jump like this games will be uber demanding in the future aand will bring the 965m to its knees.

 

if you ask me 965m is already outdated. Yes, you can play some upcoming games but do not expect to max out all the games you must settle for low settings in some cases play in 720p.

My advice is to return the laptop if it is possible, or sell it before the announcement and buy yourself something properly as 1060/1070 if you value your gaming and if your wallet allows it, if not I think you should keep it, you bought it after all for an ok price.

 

The 965M is about on par with a 780M, I wouldn't say that it requires 720p or low settings in any game yet, especially after overclocking.

 

btw my 965m is like a overclocked 880m. i dont think its out dated yet maybe ina year... but i doubt ill need to lower resolution to 720p for another 5 years

 

for example how is the 7970m or 680m fairing?

680m=960m slight overclock

960m runs all games on high and 60 percent of new games on ultra around 30-40fps...so if this is indicative of anything i should be running all games on high for 3 more years...guess i dont need to upgrade...thanks for the help but i think the 720p or low will be in 7 years time

 

Anyone with a 680M, 780M or 880M should upgrade if your budget allows for it. You'll effectively double your performance, if not more than.

 

I'm not denying that but saying that a 965M won't be able to run AAA titles except at low and/or 720p is a bit extreme. Anyone with Kepler should definitely be looking to upgrade with how poorly Kepler does tessellation but Pascal is optimized Maxwell so it handles tessellation just fine.

 

I can say yes for 1 year but 5 years? Im sorry forget it

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so you think in 2 years ill be running low 720p???

edit can someone chime in and tell me this isnt so im in a bit of denial

 

Well with nVidia pulling the "you must be on xx driver to run this game," definitely as they will move Maxwell into legacy when Volta comes out. My 260M GTX SLI actually held up quite well over the years. While it couldn't play at 1920x1200 anymore, it could do most games up to 720p high and that's a machine from 2009 that's been legacy for years. Now most AAA titles won't even open because of the driver version block.

 

260m gtx was a great card...ahead of its time

 

There should honestly be some sort of guarantee for driver support when you purchase GPU's. For example, if I purchase a 1080 today, it should come with a driver support "warranty" for 2 years. Maybe it needs to be regulated or something because driver support is getting horribly out of hand, ever since re-branding began in 2012-2013.

No excuse not to be able to maintain driver support other than laziness and/or greed. It would also earn them some respect for standing behind their past products.

 

Depends on each game though. In 5 years time you might only care about cs:go. That's 1080p all day long. In theory your statement is true. But then again there might be games as badly optimised inside 5yrs that was optimised as bad as watchdogs or assassins creed was where it won't cut it on 1080p...at least on settings to match the resolution.
At the moment. Fairly surprised how the 960m is doing on rainbow siege. If it had more vram I could apply better settings. I cal hanged my textures from medium to high and my vram went way into the red. And it's a trade of worth it upon the visual difference. I wish I could push it further on 1080p.
My 960m won't last 5yrs on 1080p with future games to come...maybe on low settings on 1080p


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SMH. Sometimes I just feel the need for a dislike button on the posts.

 

You can still play games on 1080p after 2 years of course but not every game on market, Like my first post i write to you " you can play some upcoming games but do not expect to max out all the games you must settle for low settings " in some cases play in 720p. "

 

It's not laziness, it's greed. I remember when nVidia forced everyone to move to Verde drivers and it broke my M17xR1 for months before they fixed it and Dell never bothered to release an official Verde driver. So what did most do? They bought an M17xR2. Lol.

 

Here's MSI's count down clock for their next gen reveal, it's counting down to August 16th or 15th, depending on your time zone: https://gaming.msi.com/promotion/alter-your-reality

 

That makes sense. If I was launching a major new product, I wouldn't launch it on the Friday (19th) for four reasons:

• The story would lose momentum as tech writers take the weekend off - especially those in Asian time zones
• Clevo/Asus/MSI/NVIDIA wouldn't have anything new to showcase at their Gamescom stands on Wednesday/Thursday - really they need to be ready to go on Wednesday morning.
• Lots of journos will be on a one day pass/visit - and that'd be the first day
• It'd get lost in the middle of a load of other announcements - better to drop it just before Gamescom than right in the middle.

 

Good times. Not really. The M17x R1 was grossly neglected for a long while.

 

What scares me is that rumor that they will FORCE using geforce experience for driver updates...

btw is anyone seeing the notebookreview forum as an html only CSS-less 1980 website right now ?

 

I get that in Firefox but not Chrome.

 

Yes! - in Chrome & Safari (all mac)
Edit: not Firefox though - that seems fine
Edit2: all better now.

 

It could look like a detail but if they truly are aiming at back to school sales, an anouncement on the 15 or 16 makes you save 3 days compare to announce them on the 19. I really believe (hope as well) that orders will be available almost instantly.

Yeah same problem here on firefox...

edit: back to normal

 

Well I saw a post from Prema and it was found that gtx 1070 from Msi is mxm 3.0b and it was tested on Clevo P750dm.