Pascal: What do we know? Discussion, Latest News & Updates: 1000M Series GPU's

Sounds awesome. ***SARCASM ALERT***

 

I don't really treat it like that exactly because while the price will be close the tdp and stuff aren't. The 1060 really is the 970m replacement because while its cheaper its still the third from the top tier wise and will have the same tdp and fit in the same chassis'. The 1060 won't be in the Dell Inspiron 7559, the 1050 or whatever will fit that role as a 960m replacement. Still though this is awesome.

 

Fair enough. But I still think the '980 desktop' from Maxwell was an interim segment - a trial for the market, to see how well people would adopt desktop GPUs in mobile. I don't think nVidia really intended much to leave four high-end GPUs for the mobile market. Clearly it has worked in our favour, now that all the GTX GPUs are going desktop.

 

Lol I don't think you bought a used car let alone a new car.



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The thread Doctor, Who is about to unleash Eldrad on all Off-Topic Posters!!

Eldrad Must Live!!

 

omg, i think i just woke my neighbors here, laughed so hard it brought tears to my eyes

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who are you guys really? I came here for lurking about ways to waste my money on expensive flashy neon-light gaming laptops with next generation hardware, and stayed to learn about depreciation and cars in singapore. I feel like i'd rather throw money at the latter two now!

in order to stray into the on-topicness of this topic: do you guys thing the price of the old 9xx series laptops will plummet as the new generation gets onto the scene? heck...even when its announced?

 

Laptops, yes. Video cards separate, no.

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In my home country, the amount of money you have to spend to get a car with all the legal documents with it is about 400% more than in the US.

 

In Ro, we don't have the cars they have in America. We make Dacia Sandero and Dacia Logan XD.



This is how I imagine they looked like when doing this.




Ro cars are really cheap. And old. New cars are on line with market price, but new cars market is mostly from closer countries to avoid big price overheads.




About Pascal and Maxwell, in Ro, Maxwell based laptops have dropped better than dubstep songs, and ALL of them are on sale. This is clearly the last moment they will be here, since they are sweeping them out. With really good prices too.

I'm not sure we will see any of them anymore soon.

On the other hand, MXM modules might not go cheaper as they go out of productions and only a second hand market might exist after production is over. this is something to consider, but with the power Pascal brings, I'm a bit skeptical about the reason things happen like this. I really hope Pascal doesn't heat too much and this is the reason they are pulling all Maxwell GPUs from stores.

At any rate, I'll be waiting on an 1080 for now, it seems that Clevo P870 might had fully matured as a laptop, but the price difference between it and P770 makes me wonder if I should go with P775DM3

Fun times ahead XD

 

P.S.

All maxwell 980m dropped under 2.100 USD, some of them have a price reduction of about 1000 USD right now

 

Yeah, even Alienware has lowered their prices an insane amount, lol.

The day has finally come, my friends. Next week is a glorious time.

 

jeez, i was about to buy a shiny MSI or Asus, complete with fighter plane finish and glowing WASD keys. Now ill spend it on singaporean cars and popcorn awaiting next week. What exactly is going down on the 19th? computex is far gone aint it? google proved to be less of a friend this time

 

For me, I think financing my laptop was a good choice. First of all, I don't only use my laptops for gaming, I use them to write essays, do schoolwork, and even chat with people online (even though I have a phone).

My laptops last me at least 6-8 years (based on past experiences) depending on hardware requirements at the last few years of using. I still use my dual core netbook which originally came with Windows xp. I've upgraded it to Ubuntu and it serves well for watching videos wherever.

I have another dual core laptop and it is the one I mainly use now. I watch videos and basically do whatever I need to and what the majority of everybody else does on a computer. I chat, watch videos on here also, do schoolwork, and even play games.

Now it may not be able to play all of the latest and fancy new games they have out there at this time, but I can enjoy playing gta sa and nfs Porsche unleashed. On nfs, I can play on the highest graphics! But for a game such as gta sa, which sadly runs a little abobe 20 fps on lowest settings, I can thoroughly enjoy it still because I don't miss all the pretty reflections and looking farther down the road when all I need to see is a few feet.

Point is, it's pretty amazing that we even have this technology right now, and if I can afford to finance a new piece that can handle newer games, lower settings aren't going to throttle my ability to have fun playing them.

If you can afford to waste all your money at one time to buy a laptop then good for you @J.Dre . Most of us like to keep some of it and pay in monthly payments. All of these high end retailers wouldn't have implemented this payment option if it wasn't a great idea! You talk about off topic as if you hadn't furthered it with your posts. Sure. Whatever floats your boat man.

 

Gamescom

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What a rhetorical statement turns into on this forum amazes me.

I didn't read your entire post because I read the last part with my notification and it seems like a hostile post, so... Thanks, but no thanks. I have enough negativity in my life as it is.

 

More price info is coming.

MSI GE62VR with 1070 (1060, maybe a typo in the title): https://www.amazon.co.uk/MSI-GE62VR...TF8&qid=1470967950&sr=8-1&keywords=msi+ge62vr
MSI GT73VR with 1070 SLI? : https://www.amazon.co.uk/MSI-GT73VR...TF8&qid=1470968002&sr=8-1&keywords=msi+gt73vr

 

Just wait til we get on the subject of fabric stain removal methods and/or Scientology. You think your mind was blown before? You ain't seen nothin' yet. We're like a tornado of information that DOESN'T pertain to Pascal GPU's in laptops!

 

The Countdown continues.... 4 days...
https://gaming.msi.com/promotion/alter-your-reality

 

Sorry, what were we talking about again? Pa... Pas... Pastrami? No, that can't be right...

Oh, right! Depreciation!

Apparently the MSI GS40 has depreciated so much, XoticPC is no longer selling it!

http://www.xoticpc.com/catalogsearch/result/?q=msi+gs40

So much for discounts on depreciated, unused Maxwell models Here comes Pascal.

 

Here is a new external monitor that's a good match for the new Pascal notebooks

"Dell's new UltraSharp UP3017Q is a 30-inch OLED display with a huge 120Hz refresh rate, making it the first 4K 120Hz OLED panel in the world.

With a 30-inch panel and 3840x2160 native resolution, we have a pixel density of 146PPI, with a super-low 0.1ms response time. This means it can be used not only as a professional screen, but high-end enthusiast gamers will have wet dreams over Dell's UltraSharp UP3017Q.

The UltraSharp UP3017Q can reproduce 1.07 billion colors, with a color gamut of 100% Adobe RGB and 97.8% DCI-P3, with a 400,000:1 dynamic contrast ratio.

Dell has included USB Type-C, HDMI 2.0 and miniDP 1.2 ports for display connectivity.

Now that we have established how much of a beast Dell's new UltraSharp UP3017Q is, we need to know the price, right? Dell has slapped a rather large $4999 price on it - which is expected from a super-fast, 4K-capable OLED display with a 120Hz refresh rate."

Dell surprises with its new 30-inch 4K 120Hz OLED display Read
http://www.tweaktown.com/news/52937/dell-surprises-new-30-inch-4k-120hz-oled-display/index.html

 

I wonder if a 1070SLI is worth.

 

It depends on how you look at it. If u're chasin' numbers, then the only option is 1080 SLI. For gaming it's moar than enough Powah, but depends how good SLI is supported by the game....

 

We quickly talked about it 150 pages ago. If they don't announce the mid-range 1040-1050-1050ti at gamescom I don't know how they could stop selling the the 960m and 970m because the 1060 is starting at $1500. They need budget gaming laptop at the $800-$1100 mark.

 

That's the point, I mean, I want a powerful device for gaming. But I don't want to pay for non optimized components. I know SLI can have trouble in several games, but who knows if with Pascal that problems will be less, more or the same?

 

They will be more or less the same.

 

I would opt for a single 1080 and add later another one if needed. So voting for the P870DM3 in this case.

 

Make sure that's an orderable option / planned configuration upgrade.

MSI wouldn't allow single GPU to two GPU SLI.

The P870 the same as far as I have seen. You either got a single 980 or 980m SLI, I haven't seen a single 980m PM870 upgraded to a 980m SLI.

Just because it's obvious and doable doesn't mean they have a method to allow you to do it

 

I suppose that for this szenario a new heatsink is needed when adding a second 1080. Either done by yourself or by doing it as a service through your retailer.
But anyway you're right. One should clarify this with their trusted retailer.

 

Some more listings of the mysterious GS43VR Phantom Pro (pun not intended).

http://www.leron-optima.ru/new_scripts/view_tovar.phtml?id_p=160009&ymclid=70991722247354992780001

http://www.kikatek.com/P805010/9S7-14A312-002-MSI-9S7-14A312-002-GS43VR-6RE?cPath=438

 

Well I have some 3000mhz gskill ddr4 ram sticks and a 1tb sm961 on the way for no particular reason.

 

Im sure you will have "the reason" in your hands soon

 

I do like taking pictures of nice hardware to share with you guys, that's the real reason

 

Ah that 1tb its like 500 euros over here and only in limited quantities, rip.

 

Cropped screenshot I took, CUK listing the new models.

 

Real dilemma :
MSI gt62VR + 1070
MSI GS62VR + 1060

The gs62 is slightly more sober, the design is really great imo . But man...that 1070 is uber-powerful. really waiting for prices (august 15-16) to decide but I'll go 1080p, nobrainer for me 4K is useless with crappy windows 10 and only the mobile 1080 can handle 4K.

 

They just took back the crown. Holy crap.

 

I may end up with the mobile 1080. Really considering purchasing the new P870DM3-G. Apparently it has an optional 120Hz G-SYNC display, and that's a HUGE selling point for me. But only if I can purchase it at a price point within $500 of an identical desktop build. Otherwise, it'll be too overpriced to justify purchasing a "desktop replacement" over a desktop.

 

Do you mean the GS63? I haven't seen any listings for a gs62. If so, then yes I agree - I'm likely going to pick one up. I think it looks great and as long as the thermals aren't totally shot it should be a great work/play laptop.

 

I am wondering if I can stick a GTX 1060 in my M15x.

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Well I would say you can't but GSync displays are crazy expensive on desktop, it'd be 400-500 dollars for a similar display on desktop which will help even out the costs. To be fair though a mean 1080 build would be like 2000 or even a little less, while that laptop is gonna be like 2600 for something similar if I had to take an educated guess.

 

Good choice. Do yourself a favor and get one with a Prema BIOS.

 

Mobile Pascal no longer supports LVDS screen models...
So there is that, don't kill the messenger!

 

How does that effect P770ZMs with LVDS screens? Because that adds $550-600 to upgrade the board and screen ($250 if you solder the eDP port on yourself) to get a Pascal card...

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Is the Sharp IGZO 4K LVDS?
Have no idea


EDIT : It's eDP so no worries

 

Thanks for the info. 1st Gen i7 is getting a bit long in the tooth. I will continue to use it until I can't. Then it will go into a glass case.

 

The links from AVAdirect are gone.

 

I was wondering when it would go away, so I guess I got my answer. If that's not against NDA or something - is it chip cut, or board cut? If it's chip cut, it would mean that lower tiers would get Maxwell refresh, since a lot of the cheap machines still use LVDS, or we are going to see a mass transition to eDP, like it was with 16:9.

 

Well, seems floodgates will be opening soon:

https://twitter.com/Dimitry49/status/763750882945146880

Context: this is a bunch of hardware journalists (Hardware Canucks, Linus Tech Tips, TweakTown, Awesomesouce) at what appears to be a private Nvidia media event (London, UK).

Nvidia did the same thing just before desktop Pascal launch.

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In another news, Samsung got order from Nvidia for "next-gen" GPUs on their 14nm tech:

This is interesting, it could match the second wave of Pascal launches.

Some people mentioned Samsung's 14nm tech is worse suited for high-end GPUs than TSMC's 16nm tech (what's currently used for Pascals). So it could be for those so-far mysterious lower-end chips that will be coming later on.

 

eDP requirement over LVDS is EOL for 90% of machines, the AW18, M18x R2, P570WM also how about the Dell Precision old ones and HP workstation machines ? and the Clevos without eDP as well, if there's this need to solder stuff onto mobo, that's a huge mess and risk if DIY (ZM/DM, 377SM ?)

That's it !! Ngreedia nailed it (the AMD, too hard this time, they are not coming back), Pascal is the new era of gaming and the transition from 1080p to 4K and >60Hz, like WinXP to Win7 hope it's not the Win10 type...So the node advancement was not a mere push, Pandora's box has been opened.