Pascal: What do we know? Discussion, Latest News & Updates: 1000M Series GPU's

Killing Floor 2 and Black Ops 2 took months to rid themselves of texture flickering and shadow flickering respectively. And the fixes always came in rather questionable drivers from nVidia.

Dying Light took a few months before optimizations happened (I got my minimum performance tripled and my max doubled) for SLI to work well... without driver updates, even.

While you can possibly force it, Unreal Engine 4 games don't use SLI. Street Fighter 5 doesn't. It took me a lot of digging to try and find a profile for ARK: Survival Evolved, and even then it was by chance when I asked Octiceps that I got any real lead; everything online didn't work. Unreal Tournament 4 won't support it officially, and negative scaling can occur using its AA or playing above 1080p without PCI/e 3.0 x16 interfaces for both GPUs (that means a 5930K MINIMUM for your CPU; not happening in laptops). MGSV had a scaling limit to only 70% on average for quite some time (I don't even know if it's fixed yet). DS3 I've heard claimed to have great SLI scaling, but it's only really capped out at about 60% util on each card... a very small boost all things considered. The Division had SLI flickering and un-rendering most of the world for a lot of people for quite some time after launch. Assassin's Creed Syndicate had NEGATIVE scaling for SLI even using up both cards. People tested with Titan X cards near launch. No idea if it's even better.

Honestly? Most big launches (especially if not a FPS) either have no SLI support or bad SLI support, and takes a long time before it works. Midranged GPUs no longer need apply. Single strongest card is THE best option. The only struggle I could see is the same issue I was having before, where I was trying to figure out what's better: A single stronger card (that cannot SLI) or two weaker cards that can SLI, like the 980M SLI vs 980 in the P870DM. Any other scenario, I'd say put the cooling required for SLI into putting a single 1080M rather than grabbing two 1060Ms, etc.

 

I really don't see how this amounts to a hill of beans. I literally don't give a rat's bobo what they support because their ongoing support is not necessary. As long as it is possible to secure and activate Windows 7, and to a lesser degree of value Windows 8.X, Windows 10 will continue be the crappiest option available. Honestly, I think I would almost prefer to use XP and Vista, both of which were much better products than Windows 10, and 10 is a fair bit worse than 8.X was. The real problem is the OEMs being led around like emasculated puppets with gold rings in their family jewels by the Redmond Mafia and their filthy UEFI, firmware and driver signature TechNazi bullcrap. What we need is a good old-fashion mutiny, where the OEMs and end users gang up on Micro$loth, corner them and kick them in the proverbial corporate skulls until their brains run out of their ear holes. The tail needs to stop wagging the dog. It's past time for them to fall in line and stop acting like God's gift to mankind. Along with Intel's BGA garbage agenda, these two dic traitorships have become the deadliest forms of cancer in the industry.

 

Nobody will ever convince me that any OS ever is worse than Vista. Except maybe ME. I would rather use Windows 3.1 than Vista. 10 got off to a really bad start but I have zero issues with it now. I always had issues with 8.1, especially when it came to random processes popping up and dragging performance down. I'm even on the slow ring for Insider builds on my desktop and they've been nice and smooth. I don't worry about the start menu or any of that mess because quite frankly it's faster to just type what I want to launch (I got used to doing this in Mint Cinnamon edition and it just makes life so much easier) or put my shortcuts on the desktop. The telemetry is annoying but I've been giving all that info to various companies for years so I don't really care anymore. I use android, I use Facebook, I have an iPad, I have all the consoles, I use third party apps, I play free to play games... It is what it is. My Windows 10 performance overshadowed my 8.1 performance awhile ago and the drivers have been much more stable under 10 than 8.1 on my desktop. The laptop hasn't been stable on anything for awhile, hopefully that will be remedied with this final RMA.

 

For what it's worth, Windows 10 has worked out well with my laptop too, in terms of experience & performance (gaming/office apps/internet browsing).

EDIT: and to keep it Pascal relevant, some pics have been released for board partner 1080 cards, see guru3d: http://www.guru3d.com/
Supposed to be official announcements re specs, etc, tomorrow.

 

Eventually we will all have to move to win 10 or whatever iteration will come out by the time Windows 7 is dead/unsecure. However, I know I am holding out with Win 7 until DX12 becomes an actual thing.

slightly off topic, how can we "reserve" windows 10 keys if we are on windows 7?

 

Today's the Day, right? 1080 Shipping on May 27th?

Run out and, Buy!! Buy!! Buy!!

Nvidia really should give out awesome T-shirts with the 1080's, to help identify all the new 1080 owners.

Big bright T-shirts, so we can't miss them coming toward us from far off, giving us time to duck down a dark alley - away from the beaming grinning happy goof-balls

So much Happy, Such Big Smiles!!

"You'll be Grinning all the time, just like me!!" - Jen-Hsun Huang

Happy Birthday Nvidia 1080!!

GeForce GTX 1080 Overclocking Guide With AfterBurner 4.3.0 - Introduction

 

You would have to upgrade the machine in order to get the digital entitlement (using it in a VM wouldn't work because it's made based on your hardware signature) and then roll back to Windows 7 if you want to reserve it. From that point you would just need to download the ISO from Microsoft and either upgrade or do a clean install on the same system, skip entering the key, and it will restore the digital entitlement when it boots up and hits Microsoft servers for activation. I actually just nuked my 8.1->10 upgrade on my desktop the other day because all of those privacy tools broke a bunch of settings irreparably and the clean install worked just fine since the machine already had its entitlement created. The problem is that Microsoft hasn't exactly been clear about what parts of the machine make the digital entitlement so if you've changed any major hardware, you could lose it.

As for Pascal, I have decided my 780 Ti will be just fine for now. I'm waiting for AMD to make their move.

 

I miss Cloudfire all of a sudden....

 

1080 FE available today at certain MicroCenters. EVGA MSI Zotac Giga hit the shelves, selling fast (edit: sold out). Reports already in the Alienware forum of trying 1080 in their AGA.

 

So stupid buying the "we don't have enough cards to fill demand so we are going to charge you a hundred bucks more for our ugly overheating edition" hype.

 

Late adoption is the best policy in today's tech world. That's the best way to avoid regrets and empty pockets. Wait, watch... never point and laugh... then, if it's good, go for the kill. In other words, make an informed decision once the feces has been fully dispersed after hitting the fan rather than an emotional one based on marketing hype and lies.

But, you have to admit, "Founder's Edition" sounds much better than "Laminitis Edition" from a marketing perspective.

 

You know...

I literally had to re-do parts of my kernel... Major parts of OS needed reconstruction and help... but in the end, I managed to make Windows 10 work... It is pure gold, much much better, faster, more stable than windows 8.1 was for my configuration... I am sure that components are not even releasing drivers for older windows versions, to make windows sell more, but man, I am completely okay with windows 10. They are not perfect, but God, I really had problems with 8.X. 7 was a good champ, but does not work for everything I need either...

I wish this would be as free as it is with Linux, but then again, no commercial support for Linux, equals it to zero for many usages.

I wonder why there are no Mac users around. I wonder what Mac can do with a GTX 1080. Maybe melt it and make a coffee from it.

While we are on this page....

Every laptop producer in the world releases laptops with GTX 9XX now... I have no idea why they are doing this...

http://www.pcgamer.com/hp-introduce...m_source=facebook&utm_campaign=buffer_pcgamer

I suppose one of two situations...

They either have to clean out stocks, or they will release Pascal at a much much higher price...

 

Hahahaha! Genius man. You should post that on the nVidia forums lol

 

Founder comes from Middle English foundren, meaning 'to send to the bottom' or 'collapse'. When something 'founders', it usually hits the bottom in one sense or another:

• of a ship, boat, etc., to fill with water & sink; to fall or sink down, as buildings, ground, etc.
• to become wrecked | rekt; to fail utterly
• to stumble, break down, or go lame, as a horse
• to become ill from overeating
• to come to grief

"All the armor's foundering in the Channel !!!"
Saving Private NVidiot

edit: @Ethrem Memorial Day weekend? Early Adopter D-Day

Omaha Beach Edition
Bangalores!​

 

They should call it the Titanic edition XD

 

not being sarcastic, and not coping Raidriar stance, what happen to Cloudfire? Remember is huge contributions to GPU forum.

 

He's lost in a cloud of fire, duh.

Nah, he's still here. Just not as involved lately.

 

Ironic Edition

 

I have no idea what is going on in there, so I will let NBR users make something out of this. Massdrop + 1080.


https://www.massdrop.com/buy/msi-gtx-1080-founders-edition

 

Titanic is fitting. Overpriced and doomed to fail. I'm waiting for the explosion of "nVidia drivers killed my Founder's Edition!" posts to start

Takes me to a sign up page. Screenshot?

 

Or, until their cancer drivers hinder the 'Founder' performance to help make 1180 look better than it really is. Their cancer drivers hurt Fermi customers when Kepler was released, then kicked Kepler customers in the privates when Maxwell came out, with micro-kills in between to make the newest flagship within each family look better. Leopards don't change their spots and skunks don't change their stripes. Unless they have repented for their wickedness and turned a new leaf, we should expect Maxwell owners everywhere to be artificially shafted with cancer drivers.

If you have an account and sign in you can see it. If you order in the next 5 minutes, you will get free birthday cake and nitrous oxide balloon animals.

 

At least they redeemed themselves with 365.19. My 780 Ti has never worked so well.

 

They had to wait until most customers gave up and upgraded. After all, they have a business to run. They cannot be bothered by problems from yesterday's customer.

 

lol, Sir, what could be more fitting to all of this than the 1st reported success of Founders / Titanic Edition inside an AGA, the member's name? Into the Blue ... I **** u not ...

@Mr. Fox > Titanic inside a desktop anchor, rofl

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edit 2:09pm post 1445 upd8 from Into the Deep Blue:​

"Was getting 26-31 fps in Rise of Tomb Raider in 4k with a mix of medium-ultra settings with a 980. Now... 8. Freaking 8 fps. Something is really wrong. Either with the implementation of the AGA or I have a defective card."

In2theBlue's in2the single-digits man
edit @tgipier post 3180
"waiting AIB card w/actually decent powa delivery b4 committing"

ah yes, calls already for the Unsinkable Molly Brown
EVGA's FTW / Asus' Strix has dual 8pin powa​

 

Looks like the next set of laptops coming out (at least from Asus..and I assume Clevo/Sager will follow) are going to have 120hz screens, which will be nice when Pascal mobile does get released:

http://rog.asus.com/23352016/g-seri...rlds-first-to-offer--super-fast-120hz-panels/

 

Now, all he needs is a good computer to go with it and he'll be all set... until NVIDIA has something newer to peddle in about 180 days or less. Lather, rinse, repeat.

 

Could cause problems for some cards though. It overclocked my 780 Ti from 1006 with 1072MHz boost up to 1006 to 1150MHz boost at stock voltage. I've tested it for over 24 hours and its totally stable. Haven't been able to test the laptop though, Sager has it.

 

Got to love those BGA machines ...

 

Too bad the AGA won't get max performance from that shiny new card.

 

I am waiting until an AIB card with actually decent power delivery before committing. I bought a 1000w PSU for a single GPU setup for a reason LOL.

Massdrops are great for certain things, buying GPUs/CPUs are not one of them.

 

I don't understand the point of the founder's edition, nor why everyone is selling founder's editions of the GPU. Nor why they are more expensive.

I want to kick nvidia so hard. And the whole marketing team. And everyone buying into the hype.

 

Simple answer - there aren't enough chips to go around. Product rushed to market, limited availability, nVidia capitalizing on demand.

 

What's funny is Alienware did this.....in 2011 with the M17x R3 3D panel 120Hz. Fast foward to 2016, and Alienware doesn't even have a G-Sync panel laptop, let alone 120Hz. God do I miss that old Alienware brand...they were advanced and thinking ahead before they turned a gun on themselves and blew their own brains out with a BGA bullet.

 

Off Topic: Holy crap the new BWE is overpriced.

1723USD MSRP for 6950x..... this is so sad.

 

AK-47

Spoiler: ÜBER BEAST

Ode to sockets & Vintage Alien Elitists
@Raidriar > did you say ... a Bullitt?
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@ryzeki 1080FE $819 on Dell.com (now $800 5.29.16), is that more expensive than more expensive ...

 

Looks like all of the non-reference models revealed so far are below the $699 Founder's Edition price.

Shame that I usually SLI and need at least one card (bottom) to be a blower card. Another reason to wait for the 1080ti to see if I can avoid feeling the need to have an SLI option.

 

Is this normal?

 

Just made a pre order for GTX 1080 FTW edition(2 x 8pin)

 

A couple of question guys:

1. I have sen some rumors that 1080Ti will not be GP100 chip instead it will be GP102. What are the implications/reasons if this is true.
2. Why are be behaving like 1080 throttling is some thing new. As far as I know, it has always been a problem with reference cards and can be fixed most of the time by one of the below methods:
   1. Set higher thermal throttling limit
   2. Set higher power throttling limit
   3. Run fan at higher speed (custom fan profile).

I mean is 1080 any different?​

 

ROG Strix pricing is also below FE at 640 USD for Strix OC.

 

Alex Jones is that you ?

 

Wow, this is an amazing post. Awesome. Bravo! Obviously, I agree with it. Windows 10 sucks, and the reason it does has almost nothing to do with the look and feel. It's the evil intent and lack of freedom imposed by this filthy new piece of Naziware vomited up by the insane clown posse from Redmond. I'm using a severely hacked version of it, but it's really disgusting that I have to spend hours modding, hacking and emasculating their filth to make it a usable product that I am ultimately still disappointed with.

 

No, and a Banana isn't a Boat, or a Hammock either

If you thought that was an insult, then screw you, otherwise, thanks for the compliment

 

Oh, I would definitely take it as a compliment regardless of the intent. What an honor to be compared with someone that dares to speak the truth in a media realm that is dominated by lies, deception and subliminal brainwashing techniques. How else could an abortion like Windows 10 ever be viewed as popular or good?

 

I agree with it as well which is why I don't give any money to Microsoft. Even the games that support Linux I will go on my Linux distro and buy them from linux steam just so it can count as a linux buy.

 

LoL, BGA filth now sticks with your spine for maximum VR and reducing cable issues...a.k.a Backpack PC

 

My man your post was so passionate so I thought it was a relevant compression with AJ. Even though I'm more down with Paul Joseph Wattson (he is from infowars too btw)

 

Thanks man, I do appreciate the comparison as a compliment.

 

No where does it say bga.

There is nothing wrong with a small form pc.

 

WTF. If it's a backpack why not just double the battery capacity *AND* make it hot swappable.