Pascal: What do we know? Discussion, Latest News & Updates: 1000M Series GPU's

That 1070 is quite impressive. I think the 1080Ti will be much better than the 1080.

 

not that i recommend anyone try it. but have you seen this article over on xdevs uncorking the 1080?
https://xdevs.com/guide/pascal_oc/
the related form
http://forum.kingpincooling.com/showthread.php?t=3879
unfortunately they haven't posted any benchmark scores/clocks yet

 

Holy crap those guys know what they're doing.

 

Haha nice find. Interesting read. Much respect to them.

 

That is something I am not ever going to try. Seems so dangerous XD.

 

Yeah, I'm just interested in the practical overclocking limits, not the clinically insane overclocking limits!

 

The 1080 is starting to appear on the benchmarking sites, and unsuprisingly claimed first place

http://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Nvidia-GTX-1080/Rating/3603

 

if msi sells MXM upgrades kit with pascal, i'm totally buying them !
1070M / 1080M will probably arrive on fall 2016

 

IfI had a GTX 980 or 970 I would be impressed. Coming from a 980 Ti I just can't justify upgrading just yet. I just watched a Joker video of him comparing an overclocked 980 Ti vs an overclocked 1080 side by side and the difference was 5-10fps average. Just cannot justify selling and spending around $200-$250 for that little of performance. The 980 Ti was OCto 1400ish MHz. I do 1500mhz stable so the difference would be even smaller for me.

I'm waiting for the 1080 Ti. Once you go big chip you can't go back.

My money is going towards a 1070m laptop that has discrete GPU option for OC the display or maybe even GSync.

 

Well I guess the 1070 benchmark confirms no 1080M upgrade for me this gen. Since 4k performance is still awful and a 1080M is basically the 1070 chip.

 

I mean, we can surely play in 4K with almost all settings to max and 60fps. Still no perfect 60fps...

But then I ask you:

I own a GTX 860m. I can surely play almost everything in almost all high settings in FHD. There is no reason to upgrade from this for FHD, but there sure is reason to upgrade for smooth 4K. Do you think that a person like me will ever see 1080 or 1080m as not enough? I mean, it really depends from what you are coming, and how much you paid for what you own. I have paird almost double the price of a GTX 1080 for an entire laptop with 16RAM, 4710HQ, 256SSD, 1TB HDD, and a very good 17.3" display. Performance wise, to achieve more, I would feel like upgrading to 1080, but I would have to pay more.

But then, that thing is almost like 4 times what I have in raw performance. Everything I write so far is based in openGL. There is zero reason for me to wait anymore, or to think it is not enough. Like, it actually is something. If GTX1060M is double what I have right now, it will be about like getting an 980m now, which is really strong, and would serve a me a lot better.

But I do understand that if you already have something strong, there is no reason to upgrade. I personally am very pumped up to see what 1080ti brings to the table. Or the next Titan card.

 

Well I can't play modded skyrim, a game from 2011 in 4k@60fps... I can't even play it at 20 fps with all the cool mods :/ Barely getting 40 fps at FHD res when modded. And all that with a 980M. I don't see much improvement in a 1080M to help me hit the magic 60 fps.

But yes, the 1080Ti should be interesting. Titan cards are not worth it for the extra 5% over the Ti version for almost 50% more money (here anyway).

 

I think that 1080M will be about +20 ~ 30 % faster than 980 desktop.

This is about +60% of 980M, if my math is not betraying me. If you reach 20fps now, you should reach a fluid 30 - 35 fps with 1080m. This is not ideal, but should work just fine for 4K, considering that desktop 1080 is reaching a great 60fps with almost all games in 4K.

 

If you're building a rig this year or planning to, why spend $699 on the 1080 when you can spend $699 on the 1080Ti this fall?

The 1080M should be on par with the 1070. It will have more Pascal cores than the 1070 but also GDDR5 or GDDR5x, so it should perform identical to that.

 

Because GTX 1080 TI is probably not coming in the fall?

You do realize titan Pascal is gonna come first right?

 

Who are you and why are you always negating everything I say?

It will be here Q4. Go away.

 

SKYRIM FOR LIFE!!! 340+ mods, 50 fps using EGPU setup with a 970 desktop. Thinking of get a 1080 desktop or 1080ti, or even Titan 1080 (love overkill) Either way it seemingly will be cheaper than replacing my fried 980m.

 

Won't be on shelves for a while, though. Look at the core count.

 

Wow... The Ti is massively cut... Typical nVidia.

So... 1k for Ti, 1500 for the Titan then? -_-

 

Could it be related to the rumors of TI being GP102 Chip?

 

They're both GP102 which is just a fancy way of saying GP100 with nerfed compute.

 

Same for me, but it is fun to watch

 

sure is

also sometimes things come out of them that can be applied to regular users like the unlocking of the R9 fury

 

yeah when i saw the benchmarks i couldn't quite understand the hype ( not as big jump as i would of liked) but the lower power draw is nice to see hopefully should mean good thing for those of us after new mxm cards, but i do like looking a the new cards nothing quite as pretty as the 980ti strix yet

i imagine they will do what they did last gen and put out the 1080ti around the time AMD sow off there top card so they can trump them again like the last gen

galax have raveled their 1080 (i do like the HOF cards)
http://www.overclock3d.net/articles/gpu_displays/galax_kfa2_reveal_gtx_1080_gamer_and_hof/1

might just skip this desktop gen

 

Early adopter bugz... first one I have seen, any others?

GTX 1080 Founders Edition users report fan revving issues

"GTX 1080 users all over the internet have been reporting their GTX 1080 Founders Edition GPUs have been suffering from fan speed issues, where the GPUs fan rapidly rises from around 1800 RPM to 3000 RPM to then decline again within a few seconds.

Users have been reporting this on the Geforce, EVGA and [H]ard forums, where multiple users have reported the issue, stating that the fan speeds do not seem to be influenced by GPU temperature and is not shown when looking as the fan speeds percentages in software, though the fan tachometer does detect the change."

 

Totally worth the extra $100 spent lol

 

Being first has its privileges...

 

indeed fan issues

 

But how will other people will be able to hear them bragging over that fan noise?
Or right, fan noise, people will recognize it.

 

Nvidia responded:

ManuelGuzman - Nvidia - Posted 20 minutes ago :
I filed a bug with our software team to look into this. I will update everyone when I have an update to share.
https://forums.geforce.com/default/...ders-edition-fan-issue-/post/4890497/#4890497

 

Here's a video of the Nvidia Flow FX cooling system made by nvidia marketing - circa 2002

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GeForce_FX_series

 

so this fan problem only affects the Pascal GPUs? I am ok to use driver 368.22 on my 980 GTX right?

 

You might want to read through the thread, there are a few posts bringing up this behavior has been seen before, but wasn't fixed by drivers, but instead was a sensor chip failure...

Clarification, the posts reporting similar behavior were about old cards on older drivers, historical reports, not current problem reports

So far the fan rev'ing issue is only being reported by new 1080 FE owners.

 

snap, better revert back to an older driver then, which do you recommend? 362.00 sucks with Doom

 

I would stick with the newest driver for your card/OS, unless you hear specific issues with your configuration.

The current 1080 FE fan rev'ing issues aren't being reported for other cards.

 

I will take the gp100....

 

The 1070 is very impressive. Considering it's still GDDR5 and only has 1920 Pascal cores, it makes me excited for mobile Pascal. The 980M has 1536 cores. If the 1080M has 1536 cores, it should technically be faster than a 980, and within 20% of the 1070. They should be able to fit more cores in mobile now, though.

Don't worry. I'm still a skeptic when it comes to mobile. But a hopeful one, at that.

 

The 1060 is GP10 4? Nice. Hopefully that translates to laptop... but maybe not. The 750 Ti was the 860M, so it's likely that the 950 will be the 1060M...

 

Here is a nice quick review of the history of Nvidia GPU's from 1999-2014

For all you GPU history buffs, and for those like me - feeling the nostalgia a new GPU series release brings with it.

Evolution of NVIDIA GeForce 1999-2014


with time for Radeon

Evolution of Radeon (2000-2014)


And, ATI!

Spoiler: 2 parts - L-O-N-G, but interesting

 

1070 Benchmark Reviews are out










http://www.gamersnexus.net/hwreviews/2453-nvidia-geforce-gtx-1070-founders-edition-review

 

Guru3D 1070 review been out for a while now: http://www.guru3d.com/articles-pages/nvidia-geforce-gtx-1070-review,1.html

980ti performance is what we're seeing roughly, which is probably the most we can expect for our mobile cards for this iteration of Pascal.

 

Lots of threads to read in the parent forum to the " GTX 1080 Founders Edition FAN ISSUE!" thread:

GeForce > Community > Forums > Support > GeForce Hardware > GeForce 1000 Series

 

I agree. If the performance increase of the 980m over the 880m is the same of say 30%. Then in theory the 1180m could match 1080 desktop or beat its current score now if the 1080m is somewhat equal to 1070


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Hmmm, minimum 65FPS in TW3 on max at 1080p, which could be less than 60FPS on my resolution... Not good... There's always overclock though...

 

https://tech4gamers.com/nvidia-gefo...y-more-powerful-than-the-geforce-gtx-titan-x/
21k in sli ? as expected, we will have a 1080M = 1070 cutted down to fit 100W TDP with 256bits GDDR5.
Lets say 25%-30% over a 980M ?

 

As we expect, yes. The 1080M should be around the 1070, usually less.

Always been that way - top mobile is usually around second-tier desktop.

 

Already debunked as a 2 x 980 desktop mobile water-cooled "computer", the Asus GX800VG.

THE FUTURE OF ULTIMATE GAMING LAPTOPS - A GLIMPSE
http://rog.asus.com/23312016/coming-...s---a-glimpse/

A number of similar scores to the one teased by Asus for the new GXXX showed up on Futuremark site, with the model name GX800VG and GPU 2 x 980:
http://www.3dmark.com/compare/3dm11/11108327/3dm11/11241548/3dm11/11108109#

ASUSTeK COMPUTER INC. GX800VG
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 980
Intel Core i7-6820HK (2,700 MHz)

At first I thought it was a new single GPU Pascal laptop too

New GXXX with Desktop Mobile Pascal!!

Who knew anyone would be shipping Desktop Mobile SLI at this late date, unless it isn't such a late date, if Pascal Mobile isn't going to ship for a while yet.

New Asus and MSI 980m/970m and 980 SLI Desktop mobile laptop models are already pre-announced before Computex, with more to follow during the show.

I hope Pascal Mobile is also announced, but with all the new Maxwell GPU laptops being announced it doesn't seem likely Pascal Mobile will be shipping soon.

 

236% SLi scaling... yeah, right. I would love to see the math they did to come with this number. Also wonder what kind of performance would be available without the hydro cooler. And finally 660W, I'd guess that's 2x330W, but unlike Clevo where you have converter box the 660W would be available only through the dock (because built-in). Eager to see more details about it. The CPU is most likely your run of the mill 6700K, if you can say such thing for 6700K, but it's so common that it feels like that

 

At first I thought you were posting this to confirm my posting just before yours, then I realized you hadn't read my post yet, as in it the Futuremark scores list the CPU as the 6820HK.

That video isn't even indexed or searchable yet, how did you find it? I hope someone puts up the whole presentation, the clip is cool though, thanks for posting!

It's was also rumored to have a 24" screen

Check out my post just before yours, the Futuremark scores found for the GX800VG, the OC'd score looks pretty good, 38549 Graphics score on 3dmark11

Also posted here:

ROG GX800 LAPTOP
http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/rog-gx800-laptop.792168/

Update: found someone that carried the Asus presentation Live, starts at 30:25, and the GX800VG shows up at 48:10
Asus Republic of Gamers ROG 2016 Computex Keynote Live Stream (Press Conference + Commentary)

Spoiler

45:10 G31 Edition 10 - 2 x 1080 SLI Desktop w/171% scaling
51:10 New Strix 1080

 

Well I guess my GooFu is pretty good

So, the HK, oh well, for a second there I thought that it's a GT80S done right. At least (hopefully) we'll finally get to see how far this thing can go. So far (unless I'm missing something) it was either power constrained, cooling constrained, or both. A 6820HK @4.8GHz, WOW, it would melt the solder underneath it

Pretty incredible indeed, but does it mean that it runs like crap when undocked? I'm pretty sure that it would be limited to 330W, but what about the thermals? More info needed indeed.