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    Pascal: What do we know? Discussion, Latest News & Updates: 1000M Series GPU's

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by J.Dre, Oct 11, 2014.

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    their stated numbers dont pan out. 1080M is supposed to be 50% faster than the 980M and 30% faster than the 980. so which is it now? the 980 is 35% faster than the 980m, thats a fact. so here are the two scenarios:

    1) 50% faster than 980M
    150% of 980M
    150 / 135 = 111% of 980

    2) 30% faster than 980
    130% of 980
    135 * 1.3 = 176% of 980M

    so its either 50% faster than 980M and 11% faster than 980 or its 30% faster than the 980 and a whopping 76% faster than the 980M. but it cant be both

    considering the 1080M will have the same number of cores as the 980 with 36% higher clocks, the latter actually seems a bit more probable...

    Sent from my Huawei Mate 8 NXT-AL10
     
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    It'll be neither. We won't see systems actually for sale with Pascal until September.
     
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    This seems to be just a ballbaprk figure. I would read it as "it is much faster then 980M and slightly faster than GTX 980". I predict a firestrike graphics score of around 17000.
     
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    [​IMG]

    Stop with all that math and stuff...
     
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    why? its fun! :D

    Sent from my Huawei Mate 8 NXT-AL10
     
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    My max 970m oc is 8600 in FS, so by your guess it would be twice as fast at stock ?
     
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    more like 70% faster, since he was talking about graphics score ;)
     
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    Update: 368.39 driver available with a fix for the 1080 FE fan issue...

    Updates Sticky Post
    Update 6/1/16 - We are testing a driver fix to address the random spin up/down fan issue.
    Update 6/2/16 - Driver fix so far has passed internal testing. Fix will be part of our next driver release.
    Update 6/6/16 - A new driver with a fix for the fan revving issue will be released on 6/7/16
    Updated 6/7/16 - The driver with a fix is now available for download:
    http://www.geforce.com/whats-new/ar...d-geforce-gtx-1070-game-ready-driver-released

    Looks good so far :)
    https://forums.geforce.com/default/...n-issue-updated-6-7-16-/post/4897480/#4897480

    "I am using windows 8.1 and i also had the fan revving problem. But it is now fixed with this driver."
     
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    Not entirely sure if real or photoshop, but someone claims to have overclocked GTX 1080 to 2800MHz

    [​IMG]
     
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    o_O

    using what? liquid helium?!?!
     
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    I like maths. Not that much. But still that's funny


    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
     
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    LOL 2.8GHZ

    That is amazing.

    I won't be buying liquid oxygen to touch the full 5GHz it can reach on it, but I am sure there are people who will be having the time of their life benchmarking a 1080 to 5GHz with military grade mods and with liquid oxygen being purred on the GPU for the entire bechmark time :D
     
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    Temperature showing -102 Celsius.

    Yeah, that explains it.

    I'm curious on their benchmark scores though.

    Anyone in here plans to buy a canister of liquid O2 or another compound to play games on a 1080 OC'd to that level ? :D
     
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    the screen shot shows Kingpin cooling. so that's Mr. Vince Lucido trying to keep his world record title. All LN2 on custom made cooling brackets, nothing that is going to run long enough to game on lol. He also took 980s to 1800+mhz when they first came out
     
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    orly... :rolleyes:

    my point being: even for LN2 those clocks seemed insane, so the extra -74C of liquid helium could help @-270C :D

    btw, liquid oxygen would be a rather flammable coolant :D

    Sent from my Huawei Mate 8 NXT-AL10
     
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    Hydrazine man, mix it with Hydrazine, altitude record + OC record in one :p :cool:
     
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    Shouldn't you counting sheeps by now? ;)
     
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    Don't need sheep man, need sleep, what planet are you from? :rolleyes: :eek: :D
     
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    Counting sheep so you can sleep ;)
     
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    Yeah, sheepz iz fer mowing lawns and making yarnz, not for sleeping... my suggestion, try sleeping without sheepz. o_O
     
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    Looking at the the base clock, offset and GPU-z sensor page looks like it may have been over 3GHz.
     
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    It had a "Util" throttle flag all the time; if 2835 is the maximum it hit, then it was clocked higher. You don't get a "util" throttle flag in GPU-Z running at max speed. Even in the spike in GPU-Z's sensor tab, it had "util" already. That can't have been Kboost locked.
     
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    Guy probably had a fire truck by his door...you know...just in case.
     
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    _______________________________

    Which is what I said would happen, in that we won't be seeing mobile Pascal until the 4th qtr.
    The timing is good for me, as it allows me to save up enough disposable income to get a new Clevo replacement for my 880m.
     
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    My current laptop is on its last legs, hurry up Pascal!
     
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    oh cmon, its been on its last legs for over 2 years now... :p im sure ull wait at least until volta :D
     
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    Haha, it just won't be the same when you upgrade!
     
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    Just wait until my new quantum teleportation laptop smokes your Clevo
     
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    I've been saying that Pascal was coming out in 4Q for months. Technically Clevo should have them shipping in September but Sager and some other resellers generally take another month give or take so I said October.
     
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    thats ok, that still leaves me...what? like a decade or two? :D
     
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    Why does a 970 on amazon costs $1000 ? Why all gpus on amazon are priced like it's a piece from Vatican ?
     
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    Maybe it's a long lost 970 with a full 4GBs of full speed VRAM.
     
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    Make sure it comes with the Beta Gamma Alpha core ;)
     
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    Wouldn't such low temperatures at some point screw up the semi-conductive properties of the silicon chips of the GPU and associated hardware?

    Below a certain temperature semiconductors begin to conduct electricity fully and that's when things might go pop...
     
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    Resistance is Futile! :p :D
     
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    Pascal: What do we know? Desktop News:
    1080 |1070 3 | 4 way SLI will not be enabled for games
    2way gaming yes, 3/4 way for benching utilities only

    Nvid will no longer require an "enthusiast key" to enable SLI on more than two GPUs. However, will also only be enabling 3-Way and 4-Way SLI for a select few applications ...
    @Ethrem delete if this is old news, ty​
     
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    This seems like a really sad cop out maybe they should have invested some of that mars money on drivers....
     
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    Honestly, I never liked the idea of anything over standard "2-way" SLI, so it doesn't bother me. I see no point in 3-way or 4-way. It's a complete waste of money for gaming.

    Even if you're wealthy, it's still wasteful spending because of lost performance per-GPU for gaming.
     
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    I wonder about this too...

    Well, I am sure I won't be conducting GPU usage at this temps. With a little luck, I might steer off under 80C, but I doubt my actual usage will ever be under 60C.
     
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    I agree. For gaming it often scales negatively past 2 cards or has horrendous framepacing issues.
    Sadly for the benchmarkers their fun has been spoilt to a large degree as they still enjoyed using the ingame benchmarks of some games. For 3+ sli users that past time has effectively ended with Pascal.
     
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    while i completely understand where you guys are coming from, i dont agree with these views. unfortunately, this is exactly the kind of thinking that boosted the BGA based turdbooks / clock-block / etc. in the first place:

    "i never upgraded any of my laptops (because i wouldnt know how, anyways!), so it doesnt bother me that all laptops are going BGA"

    "i was never interested in big and heavy laptops with meager battery life (because laptops are SUPPOSED to be SUPER THIN, light and with insane battery life, its not about performance, anyways!), so it doesnt bother me that the industry is slowly but surely letting heavy high-performance laptops die, replacing them with thin and light BGA based machines"

    "i never overclocked any of my laptops (because i think overclocking in laptops is too dangerous, anyways!!!), so it doesnt bother me that Nvidia blocked overclocking in mobile gpus"

    and now: "i never even considered doing more than 2-way SLI (because its way too expensive and scaling sucks, anyways!), so it doesnt bother me that Nvidia doesnt allow 3/4-way SLI anymore"

    see, where im going with this? its not about, whether or not each of us is using a specific kind of tech, its rather about being able to choose! its all about choice in the end, and soon we wont have any anymore, because Nvidia / Intel / Microsoft / etc will have forced us to do their bidding...
     
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    Yes I agree. Its not about which choices are right or wrong, its about freedom to choose.
     
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