Pascal: What do we know? Discussion, Latest News & Updates: 1000M Series GPU's

Yes, if the temp target is indeed 67-68C that´s ridiculously low and would explain any bouncing between base and boost with thermal perfcap in GPU-Z. A proper vBIOS is necessary to unleash the true powah.

 

just wait till everyone finds out that the bios is encrypted + secure flash enabled

hah!

 

Lord save us if this is the case.. I hope not @Prema, if you can talk about this yet

 

ClockBlock 2.0 has arrived?

Time to media bomb them, just like last time.

 

Keep in mind that smaller processing = less heat tolerance

 

Yes but Nvidia showed the 1080 at 2GHz+. Then again it could have been cooled by liquid nitrogen, who knows.

 

Yeah. But I'm not going to be sold 67 degrees is limitation is for heat tolerance. We know Nvidia better than that by now don't we.

 

There have been several reviews that have tuned 2100mhz, but drop down with Boost 3.0 to under 2100mhz under load.

GTX1080 G1 GAMING from GIGABYTE - Single 8 pin power... Can it perform?

Spoiler: Chart

 

They will all do 2000+/5400+ (Desktop cards)

 

Do we have any idea when the new nb with 1080 1070 will be released?

 

Not my FE. Some issues on games.

 

Or it was cooled by nVidia lies

 

Either fan was at 100% or GPU load at 20% or smth like that. So no GPU crash or overheating.

In the same manner you can do 2.1/11ghz on 1080 and click internal gpu-z render. It will show you 30% gpu load and very low temps as well)

So no more 1080m from GT72s laptop?

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NEVER! MUAHAHAHA

 

My Gaming X 1080 does 2100mhz. Usually run 2025mhz with 50% fan at 55-57C.

 

What part. The 2000 or the 5400?

 

For the moment no.
But going by the Firestrike score you´d expect Battlefield 4 Ultra 64p to run at around min fps 92 avg fps 119.

 

Luckily, architecture-wise, Pascal is a lot more similar to Maxwell than Maxwell was to Kepler and Kepler was to Fermi. So hopefully that'll prevent NVIDIA being able to ignore optimising games for Maxwell?

 

No idea. It might be stable as well.

I dont think I am gonna test this card a lot at this point. I should have a gigabyte xtreme gaming 1080 shipping out on Monday.

Hoping for 2.2ghz on that one.

 

As much as I would like to see that I do not think you will be getting 2.2 gigahertz. Touching 2.2 gigahertz and staying locked at 2.2 gigahertz are two completely different things. That's why nobody wants to do an on screen video of the core clock. Because it won't stay locked above 2.1 gigahertz on-air cards. Water cards have a better chance. But I could be wrong...

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Well, its gigabyte's answer to Classified/HOF/Lightning, so I am hoping an lucky version of that card can do it. Since I heard of classy touching that.

 

I hear ya. And I hope you get a lucky card.

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As long as pascal has a much better tessellation engine on it, don't even bother. Tessellation for Gameworks titles will simply increase further. Visuals will improve but running on anything non-pascal will just not give the frames even if the specs are otherwise-fine (like how there was a test showing 1500MHz Titan X cards smack the 1080 around; that won't happen in those new titles).

Remember, they don't "gut" the previous cards. They simply make their tech take advantage of their current-gen cards in a way other than core number crunching power, so that you figure the newer cards are much better for overall gaming. And websites'll never report on this, or any other downsides that the cards have (as johnksss pointed out where no website is willing to do an on-video core clock representation because it goes up and down and up and down beyond stock, or even at stock sometimes).

 

you have any premium OC cards coming in?

 

Nope. But I do have some evga water kits coming in. So I will test them out to see if these cards are average or was it temp related.

 

Asus announced the 1070 STRIX models, one at $449 (factory OC) one at $429, otherwise identical.

Asus GeForce GTX 1070 Strix Review
Published on 21st June 2016 by Matthew Lambert

ROG Strix GeForce GTX 1070 - Article
ROG STRIX-GTX1070-O8G-GAMING - Asus product page

ASUS Strix Geforce GTX 1070 vs 980ti vs 1080 BENCHMARK 1080p, 1440p, 4K - Video
ROG Strix GeForce GTX 1080 & 1070 - Asus Video

 

Do that, I think Pascal may clock better on lower temps.

 

Maybe, but it seems that you need to be below about 35C to be optimal. 45C seems to still be to warm for the card to run optimal for long periods of time.

 

That's sound about right. I would think you will start noticing bigger improcement at ambient/below ambient.

 

It's looking like the cards clocked at 1700+ stock are able to hit 2.1 to 2.136 ghz easier than the cards that are clocked at 1607 stock. I think they have a different power target which helps.

 

2.36ghz? Exactly what brand?

 

2.136...

 

HardOCP ( http://www.hardocp.com/) were very vocal & clear about the core clock behaviour of the Pascal cards (graphs showing variance over a long period of times & temperatures) - they might be worth taking a look at for any reviews of upcoming Pascal cards.

 

I used to like Tiny Tom Logan's reviews since they were abit more indepth about these kinds of things. No one is anymore. They just generate hype.
Seriously I'd love to see some real reviews from our users here. "Looks at @D2 Ultima, @johnksss".

 

I'll review a 1080 if someone ships it to me lol

 

The wait is killing me. I can go for a 970m now or wait for the 1070m

 

I... might start writing a couple articles soon. But I have nothing to review specifically. Only what I see online. If I ever do anything I'll post about it somewhere on NBR I guess. It won't be on any big website at all, that's for sure.

 

Good for you. No use keeping keeping that big brain of yours to yourself
Share that cranium with your brothers and the world

 

Nvidia's HB SLI Bridge - Surprising gains! GTX 1080 SLI Testing Inside!

 

I'm in same boat and been waiting it out since April. Trust me. You will be butthurt to choose 970m now seeing the results of a 1080m. You can get a 960 performing card or you can have at least desktop 980 performance for your reward of waiting for pretty much same money spent.


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Huh.

IT seems like some games were widely affected while some were not.

IT must mean that some games were optimized better, while some less for SLI.

 

Using ln2 has the card running at 2.83+ ghz on core.

Mine would be more like how this one was done...
http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/my-nvidia-gtx-880m-test-run-review.746259/

No surprises there. Most who have high end boards got hard dual & tri top slot sli bridges.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813132262
Plus some members say there is no increase in games up to at least 4k. Waiting on them to test higher than 4k though. And also.... More members to produce their own internal results on the matter.

Side note: I thought this was rather funny, because now it is transferring to pc now.




A Lot Of What Apple Does Is 'User-Hostile And Stupid'
Hey, don't look at me, I'm not the one that said a lot of what Apple does is " user-hostile and stupid." I'm also not the one that said we only have ourselves to blame for that. I just agreed ( and laughed).





Ultimately, Apple is driven by one thing - money. Its decisions revolve around reducing production costs, pulling in more revenue, or capturing and then locking users into its ecosystem, and whether you like Apple or not, you have to admit that it's darn good at achieving these goals. Another thing to realize is that Apple is in a position where it can pull off moves that might sink another firm. Why? Because it's had years and years of people hailing everything the company did as amazing and wonderful and revolutionary. The stalwart fanboys were the first to get infected by the Apple fever, and have been chanting "Apple is good, Apple is great" for decades.





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Posted by Steve 4:37 PM (CST)

 

I am not @D2 Ultima or @johnksss , but I should able to get my hands on a second 1080 and a hb bridge(I think?) by this time next week. I will try to do some tests.

 

Your right the i know. I'm getting tempted by those egpu setups but at the end of the day i need mobility so the wait continues...

 

I think that the main reason why Apple are so successful is because they provide ease of usage.

It's plug and play as long as you pay for it, and it does all the dirty tricks one needs.

Compared, windows users are on an average level - average. Windows users must know a few things, can play games, and can program better.

Linux users are much more into tinkering with things. Only getting windows to run properly takes 6-8 hours nowdays, with all the things one must do, and all the tweaks one can make.

Getting a linux to run properly can take days, weeks, months, depending on what the user is building.

Compared, Apple products are so comfortable to use. You plug and play everything. Average mac users don't know system files, hidden files, kernels, runtimes, etc. And it is better for people who don't want to learn about those. It's for what one uses a computer. Also the aesthetics of apples are somewhat on the verge of looking elegant (or something?). I'm running power houses, with gaming peripherials, using audiophile players and headphones, but I guess that if someone wants life simple, limited and expensive, they can chose apple.

 

Not really sure what that had to do with my post, but I understand what your getting at.

Bottom line. Apple is for the person who wants no problems and makes a fashion statement. (Very very short answer)

As to why I posted about it was to harp on the BGA GPU and CPU.

 

Oh... I did not want to start a massacre on BGA and the problems posed by cooling CPU using fanless designs, or problems posed by using BGA.

Risitas to clear up the mess



Edit ::: I'm not making these things, but find them by accident.

 

Apple is so expensive and super closed ecosystem with that new 3.5mm jack removal rumor is absurdly idiotic, Android user here (CM / AOSP / etc based custom ROMs since Froyo ) used the iOS 1.1.3 also. XDA FTW !

I believe most of us don't like being locked down, Winblows following the same marketing strategy is just depressing, nGreedia locking those GPU OC on NBs caused massive backlash which I'm happy for, there are people who use brains. And the GPU boost ngreedia's gimpware tactics, I don't know much.. But hoping custom vBIOSes unleash the GP104, 1080M GTX should keep the things going as usual without any B$ gimping or non socketed mess.

EDIT:
Guys, the Steam Summer Sale has begun !
Getting 3DMark 11 now, the steam store is so slow atm...
And the Froyo modded phone was Moto Milestone a.k.a Moto Droid

 

joedirt and laithan on ocn says that there's going to be difficulties in unlocking the pascal bios

seems like it's more locked down to the point where it's very close to being encrypted/secure-flash

the nvflash tool haven't been modified to bypass the certification (-6) to flash a non-stock bios that doesn't match the card's original bios, however there's an option to request an unlock certificate from nvidia (not originally meant for end users, you'll probably get rejected)

 

I've been using strictly Android since day 1 smartphone, and I'm the type of person who used to overclock a poor LG P690 to way more above it's capacity, then got angry when it was acting up on me. I managed to run a whole new level of oc with that smartphone... Nowdays, except for battery, my vanilla htc 820 satisfies my needs.

Windows trying to go apple road is to ensure users have less power. It will probably result in a boom of linux users down the road, especially if more and more games will be migrating to linux.