Pascal: What do we know? Discussion, Latest News & Updates: 1000M Series GPU's

If pascal vBIOS can't be unlocked, then I REALLY hope AMD creams them in single GPU with Vega.

 

If that were so...I surely would buy up 2 to 4 of those cards for benching.

 

Well crossfire does beat SLI for scaling benefits, so I'm sure you'd enjoy them. I've seen 101% scaling before on two Fury X cards in firestrike.

 

1080s can do that now in firestrike...And those cards are gimped.

 

It's back.

 

Normal bridge or HB bridge? I hope people can un-gimp them.

 

Put it this way.... I dont have a hb bridge. And i am one of those that can do double.

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I love how these 379 MSRP 1070s are nowhere near 379... Now that AMD showed their hand, hello price hikes. The 1070 really doesn't make much sense at the 420+ I'm seeing. Hopefully Vega levels the playing field...

 

Everything is in short supply, including most likely the raw GPU's coming from Nvidia to the board makers. Until production is in full swing, the demand will outstrip the supply and keep the prices up.

July is supposed to be the month that they catch up and start pumping out vast quantities of GPU's, so maybe the prices will drop a bit then.

The RX480 @ $200-$229 is a big thorn in the side, but AMD hasn't even started shipping yet, and AMD will have a ramp up for production delay as well.

The increasing quantity of used 980's/980ti's, and discounted retail units should also drive down the new GPU pricing.

Patience.

The in stock alarms are going off more often now, for both the 1070 and 1080:
https://www.nowinstock.net/computers/videocards/nvidia/gtx1080/
https://www.nowinstock.net/computers/videocards/nvidia/gtx1070/

"Out of Stock" is still the most popular stocking level

 

Do you only have one SLi bridge?

 

I use a 3-way SLI Bridge or a 4-way SLI Bridge. I have tested a single SLI Bridge Flex cable. And that even worked. Not as well mind you but it worked nonetheless. I think it was because I didn't really have it on very well or that Flex cable was bad I'll try another one later just to see. But a friend of mine says it works perfectly fine.

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I get that they are just a step away from vapor ware but a lot of AIBs are basically pushing FE prices as their standard retail. ASUS just emailed me about their new ROG Strix - 449 for a 10% overclock, some LEDs, and three fans. That's quite a premium considering the past... For example EVGA launched my 780 Ti SC ACX for just 729 when the 780 Ti was 699 and the SC model has a base 1006MHz compared to the reference 875. Do the math on how much these AIB cards are a rip off. GK110 yields weren't fantastic either, big die yields never are.

 

It all comes down to Nvidia's "Founders Edition" pricing for a marginal product.

AIB's that have "better" product than the FE - better cooling, more power conditioning, more fans, more "lights", metal backplate, more "pizzazz" believe they should be able to charge more, or at least the same, as the FE.

Why should they sell it for less than the FE?

Nvidia has created a situation that the only boards that will sell for less than the FE are going to be "worse" than the FE... that's pretty tough - as it will mean they will have "worse" cooling, no backplate, no lights, and cheaper build.

The best thing that could happen is for Nvidia to drop the 1080 FE price $200, and the 1070 FE price $125, and price the FE under the pricing the AIB's should be selling.

 

Nvidia just confused everything. Intentionally, of course. But either way, the 1070 is a tough sell for me now. And seeing PNY, one of the worst companies, have a card at 486?! Yeah right. Something tells me I'll have an RX 480 to tide me over or just keep my 780 Ti.

When it comes right down to it, 379 should be the base price for a reference card and FE cards should just die altogether. But whatever, we will see what the sales numbers have to say in the end. I think AMD is going to take nVidia to the cleaners with the RX 480. Most gamers don't game at 4K but rather 1080p and 1440p and a 229 dollar card vs a 400+ card... Kind of a no-brainer, especially if the overclockability rumors are true and let's not forget AMD's strong advantage in DX12 and Vulkan thanks to async compute... Oh and the fact both were based off their own Mantle.

 

For gaming and customization windows completely owns apple.

And linux ia a pain in the arse and feels generations behind win 10

And android even tho i love it performance and security suffer even on high end devices

 

I'm just wishing that amd releases the rx 490x :|

hopefully will be faster than a 1080

 

You won't see a 1080 competitor til Vega in 4Q and nVidia can just as easily drop the 1080 Ti at the sane time.

 

Doesn't really matter if the 1080Ti shows up then (it'll be about $1300 I'm calling it now... maybe with a $1400 scammer's edition launch too). What matters is that AMD has a well-priced card solidly beating the highest clocked selling 1080 (I.E. beating superclocked cards etc). If AMD drops Vega 10 flagship for under $700 and it even comes within 15% of a 1080Ti, they'll probably win. Because it'll beat the 1080 which sells for $700+ now. And if you can get a stronger card for less, then the choice becomes a no-brainer. If RX 480 isn't full Polaris 10, and they can launch a RX 485 full Polaris 10 with a high (1200MHz+) base clockspeed (I think RX 480 is around 1126) then it might compete more-or-less with the 1070, and if it's $300 or so, then they'll also win.

But this is AMD we're talking about. We both know this isn't happening. If Vega is a huge disappointment and barely beats the 1080 and costs the same or more though, I'm just done wishing for AMD, because clearly they don't know how to fight.

 

1080 Ti will likely be 1K and the new Titan 1.5K. The 1080 Ti is way too cut down to command much more, especially sporting GDDR5X.

Vega will definitely be an HBM2 part though and AMD has a lot on the line with Vega as well. If it doesn't deliver, they might as well shut their doors because nVidia is stealing all the real money with their Tesla cards.

 

We have confirmed specs for 1080Ti and Titan? I believe Titan 1.5K. 1080Ti I still estimate no less than 1200. But GDDR5X... LOL. Milk milk, milk the consumers~

 

Rumors of course but the leaks make logical sense.

http://techreport.com/news/30174/rumor-a-gp102-geforce-titan-and-gtx-1080-ti-are-in-the-works

 

Rant incoming. So, ladies and gentlemen, please fasten your unmentionables to a place where NGreedia can't grab them and prepare your serial ports because I'm really, really mad about this.

Spoiler: FE Rant

The whole Founder's Edition thing is literally the most retarded thing to come out of the GPU industry in the past five years (excluding perhaps the whole clockblocking situation). It's confusing and stupid, and takes the average person a five minute explanation and an understanding of how OEMs work and what they are, what a reference model is etc, etc. It makes absolutely no sense and is convoluted for no reason except to give Nvidia an excuse to charge a ridiculously high price for a GPU while still getting the positive PR of producing an 'affordable' product.

They've constructed the situation such that OEMs' mainstream products can now be priced higher than even their FE cards, and to your outside uninformed regular person, this seems completely fine as 'Hey, this one costs this much but that one made by <insert OEM here> is fancier, so it makes sense that it should cost more'. It is a gimmick that cashes on the nonsensical mindset of the current tech-economy which dictates that for some arbitrary reason, something that's exclusive is better and that it's better to get something before others can. It's the exact some logic which governs the whole marketing scheme behind pre-ordering video games, and if it continues, will just continue allowing GPU vendors to increase prices generation by generation despite manufacturing costs going down magnitudes.

It's corporate idiocy at its finest and it really pisses me off.

 

People keep buying though so they continue to get away with it.
It feels like they've created artificial scarcity a little too. Or at least creating the narrative that they are selling out due to demand rather than large production limitations. People especially want what they can't have.
Either way, like or not, people are buying and AMD aren't in the game.

 

1080Ti for $1K or $1,2K sounds crazy.
x80 usually stayed in $500 zone, except for 780 and now 1080, so I kinda think nVidia will stay within their margins for 1080Ti. My guess would be nVidia will sell 1080Ti for $800 for AIB cards.

 

Please, don't tell us it's going to be even worse with the pricing!

 

Need amd to step in /:

 

We get any confirmation on that 1080M's MXM slot, or did the Nvidia NDA ninjas kill that dude?

 

The dudes alive but hes been bound and gagged

 

Bdsm?

 

Nvsm

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Mostly likly knowing ngeedia

 

Nah, it seems like the whole industry likes getting whipped by Nvidia.

 

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Credit to http://9gag.com/gag/a0jLKNQ

Still would buy one for the gorgeous display. Cannot fault them on some things.

 

How is this relevant to the topic or the current discussion at all?

 

And its a 9gager on top

 

(It's funny because even if Pascal comes to macs they are made too thin and to improve considerably. I want a mac for their 100% adobergb display, but none of them can satisfy me for my gaming needs)

Do you want me to not ot?...

I will stop if people don't like a bit of ot fun...

 

pretty good taste in waifu there

 

Does the pascal series have hevc hardware decoder? Like the 960 did? Anyone know the specs?

 

Interesting 3dmark FireStrike comparison between 2 1080 SLI OC and 3 Titan X SLI OC.


3dmark FireStrike is supposed to be one of the apps that will allow 3 and 4 way 1080 / 1070 SLI, but it's fun to see how far 2x 1080 SLI can take you considering that's the max supported by Nvidia in new games moving forward.

Skunkworks Update Vlog - 2 GTX1080s vs 3 GTX Titan X??

 

Poor Jay, he was so confident about 1080 3 way SLI. Anything less than 3 cards for skunkworks is a shame.
I feel he should through in a 3rd 1080 card for physics.

 

Yeah, I don't think so.
http://www.3dmark.com/fs/4833744

 

Putting the same OC magic on the 2x 1080 on the same rig, that would be a fun comparison

It's a comparison that needs to be done on the same hardware and by the same tuner.

 

http://www.3dmark.com/fs/8797314

3dmark is acting funny and it wont let me submit my higher score.

 

You beat Jay's 3x Titan X by a wide margin, he only got up to 1400mhz OC on his Titan X's and you are way up there @ 1584mhz.

But, Jay got a bit better results on his 1080's, 46,146 vs 45,779 graphics for example.

Very fluid comparison based on OC ability of the cards... maybe comparing stock speeds would be better...?

Thanks for the numbers

 

Think you better have another look....

Who is Jay?

 

Jayztwocents is the guy that did the video. Blue highlighted title below the graphic in my first post.

What are you referring to? I did fix the number... was that what you meant? Or the statement that you can't upload higher numbers in your other post? It's ok to be precise rather than suggestive

 

But, Jay got a bit better results on his 1080's, 46,146 vs 45,779 graphics for example.
That part is wrong.

 

As I already replied I fixed that number, you needed to refresh the page to see the edit.

"But, Jay got a bit better results on his 1080's, 46,146 vs 45,779 graphics for example."