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    Pascal: What do we know? Discussion, Latest News & Updates: 1000M Series GPU's

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by J.Dre, Oct 11, 2014.

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    This suggests that if you can get 3 way Titan X's that will OC well over 1500mhz, it's better to stay with that than move to 2x 1080 SLI OC?

    If your games scale well with 3x SLI on Titan X's, so much the better.

    I wonder if this applies to well OC'd 980ti's in 3x SLI?

    So far 1080's air cooled or water cooled with plenty of power aren't really going much past simple air cooled single 8 pin powered cards. It's still early, but it's not looking good for going past 2100mhz.

    And, the performance gains are small past 2100mhz, and quickly lost when GPU Boost 3.0 kick's in.
     
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    Nervermind, you'll see eventually. :)
     
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    I already edited it... ALT-R refresh should show it.

    If you updated your 3dmark score it will have a different reference number, so I need that to see the new numbers.
     
    hmscott, Jun 25, 2016
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    Give me a game that scales well in tri SLI besides crysis 3.

    There is next to no points for Tri SLI outside of benchmarks these days.
     
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    Then we need to see 3x SLI 1080 FireStrike / 3dmark11 results :)
     
    hmscott, Jun 25, 2016
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    I normally don't keep trying, but i'll give this one more go.

    Alt-r is not going to change this.
    [​IMG]
    See the gpu score now?
     
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    You're going to have to spell it out for me, cause I am seeing the same 1080 score for you, and of course the graph for Jay's score.

    Please give me the 3dmark Firestrike scores in comparison form URL so I can see it. Why not put them in the post too, spelling it out. You are seeing something I am not seeing, and I am just as tired of this going back and forth over something trivial as you are :)
     
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    I'm done.
     
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    You didn't tell us anything, you just said you will see it. And, then said the graphics score, which one? And you quoted the same numbers I have in my posts.

    What is it you are trying to clarify, because all you have done is post after post of nothing with a clarifying nature.
     
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    I don't know what graphics score you're looking at but it's not the one I'm seeing...
     
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    I am seeing your score is 45,779:
    http://www.3dmark.com/fs/8797314

    "NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080(2x) and Intel Core i7-5960X
    Graphics Score 45 779

    3dmark 1080 2x SLI Fire Strike.JPG

    Update, unblocked imageshack, and found your updated score 46,574 :)
     
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    LOL

    Maybe he has imageshack blocked.
     
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    Where did that image come from?

    John posted URL's to the Futuremark site, that score you are showing isn't the one that he posted, nor is it an image I have seen posted by John.

    Am I not seeing one of his posts? Please give me the URL to his post where he put that score URL/image.
     
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    Ahh, That's it. :)
     
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    @Ethrem

    Disabled ublock origin/privacy badger for the site, and there it is :)

    Sorry for the frustration, I haven't run into this before, most people upload to the site and I have that unblocked.

    Thanks for hanging in there :)
     
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    Ah, and I see this now too :)

    The 2x 1080 SLI GPU score is 795 points higher at 46,574, but the Titan X score is so far and away higher at 57,412, and this is at the lowest resolution test.

    If you look at Jay's graph again, the two higher resolution 3dmark Firestrike tests were already higher on the 3x Titan X SLI - the 2x 1080 SLI Graphics score didn't scale as high at the higher resolutions - that's not good . :(
    Post 4282
    http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...00m-series-gpus.763032/page-429#post-10284050
     
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    Jayztwocents, from Youtube.
    He is basically water cooling maestro.
     
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    Yes, this all becomes a tricky situation when trying to gage cards against other cards and whether it's time to upgrade or wait it out. I had a chance to grab two more(1080's), but i'm going to hold off on that and wait on the TI or the X series to come out. And people who own 980 Ti's should just wait it out (I still have my (Classified 980 TI) . As to mobiles, it would be an upgrade to a 980M, but maybe not so much to the 980N if they run the card in a low power target state. Speculation of course....

    Edit:
    2x TitanX Which does lose to 2 1080's.
    http://www.3dmark.com/compare/fs/5157689/fs/8885558
     
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    @johnksss @Ethrem

    I wanted to find out if imageshack blocking by ublock Origin was there for a good reason, I found a lot of sites blocking imageshack from being used as an image host, and then found this interesting article quoted as the reason these sites aren't allowing imageshack:

    Ban ImageShack images because they are reusing old URLs for advertising
    https://meta.stackexchange.com/ques...use-they-are-reusing-old-urls-for-advertising

    Briefly, imageshack is deleting old content - which means images won't show up later when people read a post - and even worse, imageshack is re-using old URL's - assigning them to ad's.

    Maybe that's been fixed as I see imageshack went to subscription only in Jan 2016, and maybe that object id reuse has stopped?

    Ban ImageShack Images - the original source, whole thread.
    https://meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/300232/ban-imageshack-images/302666

    That's why I only upload images to a forum website, rather than reference an external storage or image hosting service, as bit rot cause images to be lost over time.
     
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    Yeah, they are shady. No question about it.
     
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    I use imgur. Never failed me.
     
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    Switching from imageshack to imgur is mentioned in those discussions, but even so, there have been many "imgur" level image hosting sites disappear over the years, and quite often I am browsing very old content to supporting old software / hardware and the images are all gone.

    Then I gotta dig in and track the image names to see if they are hosted anywhere else. Most of the time I get lucky, thank goodness for everyone sourcing everyone else. :)

    When we upload to the forum site image storage, it's then up to the forum website to manage the images. If the forum site storage service changes, they will have a plan in place to migrate from the old storage service to a new storage service and maintain all of the image references in forum posts.

    It would be a daunting task for me to migrate all of my years of image content from one image service to another, and then update every post I have ever made with the new link to every image :)
     
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    Ah, Ok. Now I know who you guys are talking about. I finally clicked on the link to the channel. And I do remember seeing him on the HOF boards at 3dmark.

    Thanks for the explanation.
     
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    adbload.de
     
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    I pay for a Photobucket subscription, just to have peace of mind.
     
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    What a joke tbh
     
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    432 pages and as far as I can see still no word on when the darn silicon will be out.
     
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    Banter is more important than news, haven't you heard? ;)
     
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    tumblr_n4atyuigGg1rmzrqmo1_500.gif
     
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    Yep. Won't know/have any *real* info for at least a couple months. Q4 2016. ;)
     
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    By that time I suspect this thread will grow another 200 pages.
     
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    Let's make that double.

    Come on. That's really far from a decent date. It would be just in time for winter holidays at this peace. I wished I would have one in time to play during summer.
     
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    PC-Konsulten pulled the preorder page to the 1080M equipped GT72S.

    Nvidia ninjas are catching bodies out here.

    Hopefully their late July release date turns out true.
    It's worth the $25 a year. I'm about 11,000 images beyond moving to a different site.
     
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    Benchmarks for the mobile 1080 have reportedly been leaked on a Chinese forum. Here are the key specs:
    • GP104
    • 2048 CUDA cores
    • 1442 MHz base clock
    • 1645 MHz boost clock
    • 150 W TDP
    • 256 GB/s memory bandwidth
    • 256-bit memory interface
    • 8 GB GDDR5
    • 8008 MHz memory clock
    It shows a graphics score of 16893 in Firestrike.

    Source and screenshots: http://www.notebookcheck.net/Allege...ce-1080-Notebook-surface-online.168170.0.html
     
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    I can confirm that this is true although I never read this on a Chinese site. ive also read just now that the pre orders in Sweden will be ready to ship 1080m laptops from 29th July. source from this link
    https://www.nextpowerup.com/news/28...th-geforce-gtx-1080m-available-for-pre-order/

    which is where i initially predicted from latey july/early august because I always believed laptop pascal would be out before Q4.

    also if anyone is thirty...

    https://www.nextpowerup.com/news/28...gtx-1080m-gpus-4k-display-and-better-cooling/

    sounds like they have nailed the specs on this one with no room for complaints in anything....unless you want a 2.5 drive which we don't know if it does or it doesn't.
     
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    looking like it's time for an upgrade... :)
     
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    1080m SLI in the P570WM? :D
     
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    I don't think the cards are designed the same, so might be looking for a new chassis.
     
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    am i the onlyone that thinks with the new process of 14nm the performance of the 1080m will be super close to the desktop version. after all last year they were advertising the 980m as closing the gap. so closing the gap between desktop and mobile is in their agenda
     
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    1080m? no. "deskstop" mobile 1080, yes. Its NVidia, they will milk this next year
     
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    We're getting there though... More shaders and theoretically more powerful than the desktop 1070s, so even if they do a 'desktop' version in mobile again (What was wrong with using MX again?!?) it will still be the second fastest card you can buy - overclocked desktop editions and future Ti / Titan aside.
     
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    That firestrike score of 1080m is actually 800 to 1K less than 1070. And 1070 can be overclocked to produce 20K. So its definitly no way near 1080. In fact it is same as what 980m was to 970.
    So unless the 1080m has variable TDP or Nvidia comes up with GTX 1080 for notebook, the gap is not closing.
     
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    I think it's also a measured gap by design.
     
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    There's a good chance the 1080"M" will work. It will most likely be available for the P750DM2 and P770DM2 which use the same standard mxm 3.0b form factor as the 980m.

    If you are looking at 1080 (desktop) SLI then yeah, I don't even know if we'll get it in the P870DM.
     
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    lol, aorus machine with 1080M sli? looking forward to the meltdown / fireworks :D

    Sent from my Huawei Mate 8 NXT-AL10
     
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    good time to open up a BGA reballing service for when these machines melt their solder connection off :p
     
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    Still BGA fanboys will be like:
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