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    Quantum Break coming to PC, but only Win10

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by Mr Najsman, Feb 11, 2016.

  1. thegh0sts

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    that's when i was still in school. i think it was the soldier of fortune demo.... i think,.

    100mb now is mere pittance.

    so long as this game has proper full screen i should be able to cap it with adaptive vsync even if i can't get the overlay going :(
     
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    AOL used to send out so many of those, they came in every color of the rainbow.

    There used to be recycling special dispensation for companies turning in AOL floppies and disc's by the #1000 pound weight.

    In SV you could get them anywhere - including 7/11 and gas stations

    Sheesh, I bet I still have a set of these at the bottom of a box somewhere... ;)

    Ebay User Gets $9,214 for AOL 1.0 Startup Disc (2006)
    http://www.glossynews.com/aol/article-1302.php
     
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    I've actually used a 300 baud modem... Lol
     
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    Same here. Had something like this with the phone handset cradle:

    [​IMG]

    I remember the day I went from 9600 baud to 56k.... wow. 10kb pr0n images never downloaded so fast! :p

    [​IMG]

    edit: ahh, going down nostalgia lane now, looking at these imags. I had this exact same 1200 baud modem, was pretty popular at the time:

    [​IMG]

    [​IMG][/spoiler]
     
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    TBoneSan Laptop Fiend

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    I had a 28.8k. Even when it was the business the Internet never felt fast. Back then it was "no no mum, for heavens sake don't pick up the phone".
     
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    We've gone off topic people!

    I am looking forward to seeing how the game plays and not so much the technical fixes required to get it to run. It should run since tomb raider ran nicely.

    Sent from my HTC One using Tapatalk
     
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    Look what you've done, Windows 10 . . .

    You've induced dial-up nostalgia. You've galvanised the masses and shot the conversation so far past the sullen dystopia of your design, landing everyone head-first into a post-apocalyptic wasteland where they gleefully start over again, 1200 bits per second.
     
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    Thanks a lot, Windows 10!
     
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  9. Ethrem

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    Okay seriously, let's bring it back.

    @HTWingNut I'm giving you courtesy time. ASCII or not...
     
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    -moved-
     
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    Same thing i said on the gears topic :

    windows store only = there is no way. ****ty sandbox, no mods, no overlay, no injection, no sli/cfx profiles, no exclusive fullscreen, no gsync/freesync, 15% decrease perfs because of this damn sandbox. Windows store is by far the worst store ever made. And i REALLY hope they'll sell peanuts and get the deserved backslash.
     
  13. thegh0sts

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    Melodramatic much?

    Sent from my HTC One using Tapatalk
     
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    I officially have a headache and I'm going to bed after reading this. There's so much SMH in this post I just can't respond right now.
     
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    It's the dehydration from the Flu, and the crying over MS's antics :(

    Hope you feel better soon!
     
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    If I ever cry over MS,it better be blood from Ebola!

    No, thanks man. It's officially the flu... Fever and all. But still if I cry over Microsoft it better be an airborne version of Ebola because nothing else could make me cry over Microsoft except blood squirting from my eyes.
     
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    Ok everyone, you heard from Ethrem, Microsoft causes Blood spurting from the eye's, after infecting you with Ebola!! :rolleyes:

    Damn man, and I thought I was being tough on Microsoft :confused:

    Hate the Flu, I keep TheraFlu with me for just those times... sorry, keep up the fluids intake!!
     
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    Nature is hard... Ebola has Mickey mouse ears....! The cosmic joke doesn't get any better!

    It's just like that game Plague, Inc though... Its insanely virulent with a low incubation period and death in days... So it can't spread quickly across land... But it takes two to three genetic mutations to make it the most destructive virus ever...

    Microsoft is the original
    Apple slowed down the infection
    ??? From there...
     
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    What sandbox are you talking about?! Since when has Microsoft ever sandboxed (virtualizatiom term) any app?! Because if they are making true sandboxes... Why do people still get viruses? And if MS has the technology, it would be less than 5 percent loss with a combination (bad language around here, just remember this is a mod before you jump down my throat and be respectful if you disagree) of UEFI secure boot with Windows signature pushing the graphics through the sandbox to UEFI... While I've done it with Hackintosh, I can't see the 20-30% performance penalty being okay with any gamer. I think you've fallen off your rocker because even VMware sandboxes don't have that capability and they're a Microsoft partner unless that expired...
     
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    Haemorrhoids. You forgot haemorrhoids.
     
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    anyway......

    i did get a code for alan wake's american nightmare for 360 (xb1 back compat) and it isn't tied to the account so i could easily resell or do a giveaway if i wanted.
     
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    I could definitely see the exclusive fullscreen problem as seen in Rise of the Tomb Raider for those with multiple GPUs as an issue. I don't know if this is just the version of the game that's in the MS Store vs the one that's in steam or something specifically because of the store or ecosystem itself? Do the options within the game's settings menu differ between the two?

    It's possible the MS Store version could get a patch to remove this problem. Is this only a problem with Rise of the Tomb Raider on the MS store or other games as well?

    Would I side with getting a game from Steam vs the MS Store if it was available in both places? Sure, just because I already have a huge investment on Steam. Like most gamers I already buy nearly all my games on GoG and Steam, I randomly buy them in those two places depending on price at the time I want the game and who might get it first or if its just exclusively on one or the other. I don't really have a horse in the race between those two, I like them equally. If I wanted a game and it was only on the MS Store i'd just go buy it there, obviously. Much like Origin or Battle.net. I'd only just continue to use those alternate stores aside from Steam and GoG if something was exclusively available there however. Truthfully I couldn't care less, I just want to play the game in the end.

    The one dark horse in this is that if I get an XB One AND PC version both from the MS Store, that would be interesting. We bought an XB One for my wife to play Fallout 4, if I could get games on both platforms for a single price, that might be worthwhile. But truthfully it's rare that I play games on the XB One so It would only be an interesting point to consider but not a deal breaker.
     
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    Well my NCP could see a win 10 store game being played (see highlighted game in pic) and I was able to make a profile and test if i could cap it to 30 and it worked nicely.

    [​IMG]

    EDIT: sure it would have been nice to get an FPS counter but being able to spot the difference in the fluidity of the character's movements and cursor movement tells me it worked.
     
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    All games on windows store are sandboxed and launched the same way apps on windows phone are launched. The .exe files are not win32/PE exe you can find on steam, origin or everywhere else. They just give them the same extension name but that's it. That's why you can't mod anything and gives many problems with everything i said earlier. And it's up to them to make a connection *their file system*=> win32/pe so that it can be recognized. And it consumes some cpu power to do so.
    The purpose is to make apps universal or so they say, unified updates, avoid malwares.

    And about the perfs, just look at the neogaf RotTR thread. It's not 15% all the time sure, more like 2%-15% depending of the place.

    MS store should get win32/PE support during last semester according to some people on neogaf, unless the rush things ( wich we'll see on QB ).

    edit : and btw, with windows store, you are fully dependant on windows 10 updates. Many users complained about it because they got stucked ( remember nov update that screwed many win 10 ) and couldn't launch a thing.
     
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    i hope so :p
     
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    After reading about the issues with Rise of the Tomb Raider over the windows store vs steam, I think I will pass on quantum break. No sli, borderless window forced and forced vsync? No thanks. I really hope things change or they release a steam version like with alan wake.
     
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    errr.....ROTTR and QB are different games done by different companies so you can't really pass judgment based on little info.
     
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    -wrong thread-
     
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    It's a Windows 10 store issue with all their releases from what I've read.
     
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    Will just have to test for myself when I get the game on pc. By the time it comes out I'll be back in Australia... Sigh!

    Sent from my SM-T560NU using Tapatalk
     
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    25qb50qt58.jpg



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    Meh

    Sent from my SM-T560NU using Tapatalk
     
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    Whirlwinds of Fire... Meh? :cool:
     
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    Lived there for 30 years so that stuff is pretty much meh

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    Yeah, the issues I mentioned are Windows store specific. Games in the store are not the usual game files and instead are windows apps, which run differently, hence the particular limitations. According to some people, these are fixed limits due to the way the windows app works which is not an exe and as such it is difficult to force certain settings from the nvidia control panel.

    I will reserve judgment until it comes out and all, but so far, everything I have heard from the windows store has those particular limits. That's why I used ROTTR as an example, because it exists both in steam and winstore form. I have the steam version and I have no issues with vsync, sli, performance drop etc. I hope there will be a... remedy... to this.

    Man, I so NOT wanted to make a pun.
     
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    Quantum Break Gameplay (could be deleted soon)
     
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    Oh good lord. Now games will be internet streaming features only to be interrupted by poor ISP management and more than likely frequent glitches in the Microsoft Server Farm. I can see it now, playing the game and then BAM!: ***Quantum Break Cutscene Interrupted: Technical Difficulties. Please Try Again in Ten Minutes*** (i.e: IT tech on duty fell asleep and spilled coffee on router)
     
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    And the purpose was to save user's disk space, didn't we have the NFS Mostwanted with amazing motion capture scenes back in that time and an amazing game to play, over and over..plus QB needs much more requirements on DX12, they could've optimized the game more to run on more PCs.
    Another lame excuse to sell more of their proprietary trash, they are wolf in a sheep's clothing...more hate from every forum I'd bet.
     
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    Interestingly, Xbone can predownload those episodes but PC cannot and have to stream.
    Because we all know PC drives are much smaller than the Xbones.
     
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    they said because it's 1080p on XBox and 4k on PC. But well, if you can't afford a few GB then you sure as hell have 100 Mbps internet connection.
     
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    ok so for anyone wanting to buy Gears of War, by and large it runs at 60fps even on a lowly 880m, so if you guys were worried about the no SLI for that one don't worry it runs great even on one laptop card. I still don't condone this kind of bs though by any means.
     
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    They assume we all have unlimited data (normal here in France, but US ? Canada ?) and high speed internet for 4K streaming.. idiots !
     
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    C'mon, US, Canada, get with the times. First world countries my butt.
    Even here in a second world country we have fast internetz and no data cap. And we pay peanuts for it, though we also get paid peanuts...
     
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    my data is unlimited but speed is crap though. It's $45/mon with only 20Mbps and my old place was $35/mon with 60Mbps from the same ISP. Two places are 5 min drive away from each other :eek:.
     
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    My data is unlimited and my speeds 200/200, and I can't download them but instead have to stream it. The whole point is having a choice. It is incredibly dumb to keep it as streaming only, if you can very much download them.

    That is both good and bad. Good because yay performance, bad because it's not pushing anything in particular, and 60fps on 1080p, but how about 4k? It am still a bit amazed at how not ultimated this rework of gears is haha, mainly because of the limits of the console. Poor teams had a rought time making it as identical in gears while improving. This could have been much more.
     
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    I've been absent for awhile due to personal issues but I think we are all forgetting the growing pains Steam had... I mean they only recently made the ability to play games without an Internet connection an option when you launched the app without one... Either way, I have an Xbox One so even if Windows Store is going to be all bonkers, I can still play the games... And without nVidia messing up with TDRs........

    There is nothing worse when you beat a boss and it TDRs before you can save...
     
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