**//The Official Bioshock Thread//**

if someone tries it on a 8600GS, please do let me know.

Have to see if it can run on my F3SV.. 2GB is a lot here. will take me a week to download

 

I have a 2.16ghz core2, 2 gigs ram, x1600 laptop, I played the demo, all details on high, the game runs really smooth at 800x600, just a little bit more juice and it would be playable at 1078x768...maybe some overclocking will do it...

From the one level it was pretty creepy, graphics were quite outstanding, good atmosphere...kind of like a mix of f.e.a.r. and hl2, creative world. I just hoped that the guns would have been a little more solid. The fire skill was kind of useless next to stunning enemies with lightning and blasting them in the face with a pistol.

And finally...you think you'd kind of kill the vein with the amount of times you inject yourself with that plasmid stuff...

 

It runs great on my 8800GTS even with full options on and 1680x1050 res (35-60fps), I was expecting it to struggle a bit but no. Sadly, I couldn't take any screenshots, as once it loads 'Welcome to Rapture' the demo crashes on my desktop

 

Yeah but you need a good machine to run it at levels you could happily say are better then the 360 - better then a regular 8600GT laptop anyway.

 

Sorry about that, and yeah, it rocks.

 

Did it 'feel' faster or were you comparing framerates? On what hardware?

 

This is probebly one of the best optimized games ever!

I can even run it on my Amd sempron 2800+ , 1gb RAM and a 6600 (non gt).

This is of course on low, but hell - it runs pretty smooth!

 

thanks guys i never thought that the problem could be with winrar!

whats UAC btw?

 

will my laptop be able to play this? It will (hopefully) arrive tomorrow. I've never really gamed on a PC before as my current one sucks.

Here are some of my specs:

V1500 CORE 2 DUO T7300 2.00GHz,800,4M
Vostro15.4 WXGA
Free Memory upgrade from 1024GB to 2048GB 667MHZ
2048 MB 667 MHz Dual-Channel DDR2 SDRAM (2x 1024 MB)
Hard Drive 160GB Serial ATA (5400RPM)
Fixed Internal 8X DVD+/-RW Drive
Primary 6-cell 56WHr Li-Ion Battery
256 MB NVIDIA GeForce 8600M GT
Intel® Next-Gen Wireless-N Mini-PCI Card, EUR
European - Dell TrueMobile 355 internal Bluetooth Module, for Vista
English - Vista Home Premium

 

umm.. it was $40 at circuit city ... get the circuit ad and get the $10 back
http://www.circuitcity.com/ssm/BioShock-PC/sem/rpsm/oid/185718/rpem/ccd/productDetail.do

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I played it smoothly on High Settings, minus High Detailed shaders plus Force global lighting @ 1280x800 on my go7700. This is while OC'd though

 

How much did you OC? I have the go7700 and I've been having a time getting it to work smoothly on anything but med/low settings and I installed the updated driver. I only got to play for about 45 min last night and I plan on checking my FPS in CS:S after work to see if the driver is messing me up, however, I don't think it is.

On high I was stuck at 15-25ish FPS, medium 20-40, and low 30-60 so just to keep it as playable as possible I was running on low but if I can change that I'd love to know how.

EDIT: Oh, and I have the G1 w/ 2.0 duo, 512 go7700, 100GB 7200rpm HDD, and upgraded RAM (the specifics escape me at the moment).

 

c510/m460. I'm using the bioshock drivers (163.44). They allowed me to go from medium to high. Just remember that you can't use High detailed shaders or vsync.

 

Indeed, the reviewers have the luxury of running this game on a high end desktop computer, which obviously we don't own or we wouldn't be here in the "notebook" forum.

The choice is pretty obvious, get the 360 version and hook it up through the VGA connection and play it at native 720p on your HDTV.

Monster Game VGA that is...

 

Depending on what type of computer specs you have YES the 360 compares quite well and if you don't believe me I would be more than happy to take some snapshots and show you just how good the 360 version looks!

 

yes for a 3000 computer you can do what a 350 dollar video game system can do. For gaming i'll go with the cheaper option any day

 

in the old days i would say pc every time. But in more recent years i would now say console.

Why? Well ive played oblivion on both pc and xbox360. The graphics were better on pc yes but it wasnt as smooth or as *untroubled* as the 360 version. What do i mean by untroubled? I mean i would get occasional crashes and glitches with the pc version every so often. Constantly updating drivers and patches to get the best out of the game.
In my honest opinion its getting worse with patches for games coming out practically the same day it gets released. (i know problems occur because of the difference in hardware between people etc etc but still enough is enough)

You have a HDTV forget all the hassle of having a pc and play it in a relaxing environment (lying on the couch) on a console. No hunching over a desk no sir.

Me ill still own a pc for old skool stuff, rpgs and the like. I think there is a wealth of back catalog pc games that ive never played. But for new stuff - console

 

I just hate consoles because I can't use a controller in any first person game. If you can use and be comfortable with the 360 then play on 360 but I hate the controller and I hate being held hostage (even more than I already am) by Microsoft. They charge for everything on the 360 and I can't see it getting any better. Give me fan-based content and more control over the game any day.

 

those were some pretty amazing screenshots...dang

 

Why would that not be possible? =) Just asking =)

 

I tried a couple runthroughs of Bioshock in DX9 mode last night...

Average frame rate for the 2 runthroughs of the demo with 163.44 modded drivers were indeed higher.
28-29 FPS (24-25 from DX10)
This is with everything on (that DX9 allows) at 1440x900.

The problem was that this was not better gameplay because minimum framerates dipped to 11!
DX9 mode also made for stuttering (even when fraps indicated 29 then 24 fps)

DX9 mode is noticeably less pretty. Water, especially when its spraying from bursting hatches in the game is nowhere near as realistic. DX10 mode must be using AA as well because even solid objects in DX9 mode looked jagged, (by comparison) even at 1440x900.

After seeing the results, I thought "maybe the 163.44 drivers are not as good at DX9". After booting up Oblivion and NWN2 and 3dmark06 I concluded that DX9 with 163.44 was just peachy.

Overall, I will not play in DX9 except to test... DX10 mode was considerably better in almost every sense of the word except average frame rate which was higher, but only by 4-5fps.
No sign of the user-reported "twice the performance" in DX9 and the game is noticeably better looking in DX10 as well.

If DX10 is truly handling AA where DX9 is not and the better effects, then DX10 is indeed performing considerably better while maintaining better minimum frame rates. I can simply turn down some settings in DX10 and get playable frame rates... If I can figure out a way to OC my 8700 with 163.44 drivers, I will be in great shape.

 

Hmm how exactly are you doing this... nvidia drivers after a certain point reset to stock clocks at all times.

I cannot get my vista 163.44 drivers to overclock or I'd be a very happy guy.

 

thats not true, a 8800GTX and Q6600 computer nowadays will cost you only a little over $1000.
and you don't even need something like that to beat 360 performance.
A $600-800 E4400 and 8800GTS equiped desktop can perform just as well if not better than a 360 or PS3.

 

This is false...

DX10 is a completely different way to do things... DX10 is NOT just a feature or two added to DX9.

When the game is started it either starts in DX10 mode or DX9 mode.
Users with Vista and a DX10 card will default to DX10 mode, but can choose DX9 mode by rclicking on the game icon and choosing "play - DX9".

Users who start in DX10 mode and then disable DX10 Detail Surfaces are still using DX10, you are just using the lower detail surface textures that DX9 is forced to use.

 

$350 for a video game appliance is still a good option.

$1500 fast PC vs. $350 game console + $500 slow PC

 

I tried the demo out last night for 360 and was pretty impressed. The gameplay is smooth and the graphics are pretty good, even at 480p. I think a FPS like this is still better suited for a pc. I wasnt getting the same experience sitting back 10 feet from the tv then I was getting with my pc. I guess if you added a 40 inch LCD and surround sound to the 360 then the game would be much more exciting for the console.

BTW Abyss those are some sick screens at the res, youre lucky to enjoy the game with such detail.

 

I have no idea. They just are. I was amazed as well. I didn't uninstall my previous 86.02 drivers before i installed the new ones.

 

You do realize this was a test, right? It wasn't meant to get the best FPS, it was meant to stress the power of my laptop and see what it could handle.


I'll have some DX9 and other settings test shots sooner or later, right now I have to be a little more concerned with getting ready to move Friday than playing some games.

 

Because the go7700 is not powerful enough to run high detailed shaders when you have it set on High.

 

Does anyone with an Inspron 1520 have the FULL version of the game?
Can you tell me how it runs?
I heard that the full version of the game will pop u down 50% fps. is this true?

 

That was some pretty low FPS, I mean 13fps in a fight. I wouldn´t count 13fps nor 20fps as playable. But that's just me. Though that scene where it is 13fps is pretty demanding. If you would play at a constant minimum of 30fps since this is pretty much a 3D shooter I would count that as playable.

I really hope Nvidia comes out with a real DX10 notebook GPU soon, preferably the 8800.

And no the 360 doesn´t look like that, maybe similiar but not as detailed textures, water etc. This is DX10 play the game first in DX10 and then go back to 360 and see what looks best. You can't put any graphical setting at all for the 360 so that's all I have to say

 

I dont have any load times going into a new room. I was refuring to the initail loads, the big level loads. I just think its odd that its so much faster on my desktop.

 

i've heard that too. its not true for me. works pretty much the same as the demo. The areas in the full version are alot bigger then in the demo though.

 

He said already it was just a test, he has no intention to play at that fps, and i am sure he said earlier that it played fluently even at those fps, so maybe fraps can't get real frames from DirectX 10, or something. In the end it matters not if you get 5 fps or 200, if it plays fluently, i see no problem... and again... JUST A TEST, ok?

 

Hmmmm. The demo won't even start before it crashes on my system. I have a brand new 1520 with the 8600 gt. It crashes as soon as the bioshock label pops up. Any one know a solution?

 

Maybe the desktop has faster harddrive, in general most laptop components (memory, harddrive, bus, etc.) are a tad slower than their desktop counterparts.
Your 7800 gtx uses turbo memory? Are you using Vista (because i have read some posts about Vista + 3 Gb RAM being way better than Vista + 2 Gb + turbo memory). So that extra 1GB RAM can help alleviate loads.

 

I had the same thing happen until I patch to the new modded 163.44 drivers at laptopvideo2go.com.

 

5fps plays fluently No 13fps is not fluently. Allright just a test.

 

Heres is one pic, everything is on max 1920x1200 res. I will post more shortly.

 

Well on the other hand console players says that using mouse and keyboard for a FPS is cheating, not taking into account the worthless precision with a controller for FPS games No, FPS games doesn't belong on a console in the first place. I don't buy any FPS for my 360 it's totally worthless. Sports games and racing games is the ones I play usually on the 360.

 

PC is more fun if you like to tweak and play around. If you've got 360 get it on 360, isn't that the point of having the console?

 

Then you just remind those morons that FPS were initially played with a keyboard and mouse on the PC and hence it is the control interface those types of games were designed for. Same with RTS.

 

i've played the game too, and i got most time frames between 28 and 35. But sometimes the fps collapsed to only 2 and like kernalpanic said: SOMEtimes when you get arround 30fps it seems to stutter too.
I did used the original drivers from nvidia: 84.63

 

That's better than what i got with my new Vostro 1500, c2d 1.6/ 8600gt/ ONLY 1 gig of RAM. I get around 12 - 21 fps @ 1024 x 7** (forgot the exact number), with everything high and DX10 enabled. Stock speed with 163.14 driver, for the life of me i could not figure out how to get 163.44 to work, on the demo.

btw, this forum has helped me alot this past two weeks, thanks guys

 

yeah no kidding. a mouse is a must for any fps. i would say PC for that reason above all else.

At the same time, its almost certain mods will come out for this game (its a 5 star production game) that will introduce new content. Multiplayer, for one thing.

Its a toss up though. you buy a console to play games on it... the "might as well" factor is pretty strong.

 

Oh that's all? Why don't they just throw in a quad core processor as well?

 

Well it does say "Best preformance" i guess that the best preformance would ,defacto , require the best hardware. XD

 

Yeah I have a friend who is a reviewer and he reviewed Lost Planet for PC, he thought it was unrealistic to be able to shoot an enemy in the head from a far distance. To me it sounds like he thinks it is more realistic trying to even hit the enemy at all with the stupid controller. Personally I own Prey for the 360, played it a little and just got so frustrated with the controller I just put the game away.

Same with Call of Duty 3, nice game but it should have been made for the PC as all FPS are meant to be and yes not to speak about RTS. Could you believe playing C&C 3 on the 360 I wouldn't even try.

These consoles will never replace the PC like so many people think. The only way they could replace a PC is by becoming a PC themselves which they will eventually do, they are already aiming for it all they need is a keyboard and mouse. Now of course they will never replace PC gaming since PC gaming is always ahead of consoles, when there is a new console released.

Is it only me who think these consoles are no next gen? Hell I have had Next Gen on my computers as long as I´ve had them.

 

The new drivers help a LOT in DX10 guys.
In my case they actually stop crashing and in others they raise average frame rates by a decent margin.

-go to laptopvideo2go.com
-select download drivers
-select your OS
-Download driver
-Download modified inf (for laptops)
-double-click on their driver archive they pack it in and pick an install location (C:\drivers\testvid as an example)
-copy the downloaded inf to that directory (C:\drivers\testvid) and overwrite the one already there.
-uninstall previous driver through control panel (add/remove programs)
-restart
-double-click setup.exe in the directory you installed the downloaded drivers to (C:\drivers\testvid)
-follow the bouncing prompts, yes,yes, next, yes, my newborn son and then reboot when it asks you... grats its installed.

 

I'd say get the xbox 360 version. I have a 8600M GT and Bioshock runs "pretty good" even on 1440x900 res and max settings, but the xbox 360 version was just so much more fun for me. I have an HDTV...Idk if that's why.