The hopeful of keeping MXM 3.0b alive thread!

It has more to do with whether or not connections are made to the dGPU (which is not guaranteed on all models) and I/O bandwidth of the gtx 970/290

for instance the gtx 970

1 x Dual-link DVI-D 1 x HDMI 2.0 1 x DisplayPort 1.2

Does every laptop capable of housing a GTX 970m or 980m have those connections?

Lastly, you need to prove this is nvidia arbitrarily setting this limit and not the VR manufacturers. Oculus set the minimum requirements, or at least it looks that way to me.

 

By the way, for more info, you can contact the company on your own.
E-mail：[email protected]

http://www.gecube.com.cn/
http://en.gecube.com.tw/
(im not sure if this is against the rules to post this...will delete if so)

 

Vr doesn't work with SLI or xfire

 

VR is amateur and has many limitations, worthless for gaming, to me atleast, SLI does easily break VR requirements do a Steam VR / 3DMark test who cares about GFE cancer. GTX 970 is the minimum spec for the VR while 980M with little OC does get that score without issues from FS score. Also no one cares about the tech inside their HW people just want a soft path for everything. OEMs bank on that and Advertising is the most comfortable way - Buzzwords - Clickbait, People often fall for the fallacies & here we are now fighting an uphill battle against a lost cause.

That's the reason the MXM 3.xb died. The numbering system idea was given by marketing team for the product categorization and thus we had the x80M for the highest end GPU but while it had a x70 DT counterpart. But they experimented with the DT power with the 980N 200W with a true DT chip with in-house custom MXM designs - by MSI and Clevo & It clicked, Now people are enjoying the desktop power but with a price - wierd sizes of their MXM cards from core positions/ VRM placements/Power requirements etc.

It's all in their hands consumers vote doesn't matter for them unless there's significant backlash - Windows Skylake propaganda / Forced gestapo B$ on Nvidia Cockblock pre 347.88, thanks to NBR for demanding the rollback on that. That gimped 970 fiasco, people a few quids back but look that Pascal pricing extortion.

I would never trust any corporate be it the best of the best. It's all in there for the $$$$ an Avg. Joe needs to be smart then only there will be positive progressions or there will be regressions, Sheeple keep on buying those thin and light, latest is greatest crap they end up getting nailed at the back, piece by piece - Headphone jack / Soldered drama / Automatic forced Updates / Telemetry / price gouging list never ends unless the pre-condition is met.

 

And maybe we will see NGREEDIA MILK THE CUSTOMERS even more

 

Appeal to popularity is strong with this one. :/

 

I emailed GeCube and manifested interest about the MXM 1070. A simple MSI vBios + (may be a little heatsink mod) and we are ready to go.. 4000yuans (530eur) is not that much for an upgrade..

 

Dear Gecube.
Does it *&@^(!# work in Clevos.
That is all.

 

It should fit, it's standard dimensions..

 

Its the Clevo only thermal sensor/EC shutdown thing. Their RX480 didn't work. I would have probably bought two for xfire and MADE a couple hundred after selling the 980Ms if it did!

 

I got too impatient and just ordered an Magnus en1070 primarily because I could return it if it didn't work for me

 

I guess the bigger question is if you can get your laptop card to work in the zbox, then just repurpose the machine for w/e suit your needs

 

I've also sent them an email asking the same thing. I initially upgraded my MSI GT 60 Dominator from GTX 870m to GTX 980M. Now, I am itching to see if it can go all the way to 1070m. Because I also upgraded the screen of my Laptop from 1080P to 1440P. GTX 980M can handle this much pixels @ 60 FPS but on low settings. 1070 is definitely the answer.

 

Where did you get this?

 

So you want to take out the 1070 Graphics card from the Zbox and test in on your laptop?

 

How do I get the MSI Non Gsync vBios?

1070 Mobile is a beast it's even a little more powerful than the reference 1060 and even 980 desktop cards!

https://www.amazon.com/gp/css/summa...his_order?ie=UTF8&orderID=108-6035724-0347463 Amazon has discounted it by $150

Yep

 

Sadly the rest of the Zbox is useless without the card

 

No. The thermal sensor design is the one for Alienware/MSI. It will shut down in 30 seconds in Clevo systems as Clevo uses a difference thermal sensor design.

 

With 1070, it is an expensive option to replace 1070. But what happened to that GeCube 1070 GPU? I haven't heard back from them may be tomorrow during their day. Can't you use that card?

And What about these cards from Ebay
http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_fro...XGTX+1070+MXM.TRS0&_nkw=GTX+1070+MXM&_sacat=0
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Clevo-P870D...357859?hash=item1c7eea22e3:g:t8AAAOSw32lYwGJ8

 

I can't use the clevo because it has both a non standard size and requires an external power connection I can't use the msi because it has a non-standard size and dimensions.

I'm optimistic about the Gecube 1070 but I don't want to wait forever for them to finally release it and I imagine returning it could be a nightmare

 

I can see that what you are saying ..What about this one

http://www.aetina.com.tw/products-detail.php?i=87

Moreover, If you look at the holes for both of these 980m and 1070m they are the same and exactly at the same location. However, we need a little bit more space on top right corner which MSI GT 60 latop has at both ends

http://www.ebay.com/itm/NVIDIA-GTX-...MXM-3-0-Module-150W-Upgrade-Kit-/112144267554

http://www.ebay.com/itm/MSI-GeForce...403057?hash=item3adc8e1871:g:yOEAAOSw2gxYy2kH

Look at this picture of my laptop
http://img.hexus.net/v2/laptops/msi/GT603K/GT60-07b.jpg
I think on the left side RAM Slots are too tight

 

Plus do you have the dimensions or actual picture of the 1070 in that Zbox?

 

it won't work for me because it is taller than the MXM3-B standard and requires an external power connection they also want $900 last I checked with them

yup too tight if I were you I would wait for the gecube model

Yes it is fully MXM3-B(the GeCube 1070 seems to be the same design)

 

Thanks ... I'll update you if I get a reply from GeCube

 

Much Appreciated!

 

How does the MSI 1070 work in Clevos though? What is the 'fix' there and how can it be replicated in other cards?

 

Currently the models tested to work fine are:
Alienware M17XR4 i suppose the other models are fine as well.
MSI 16L1 (Eurocom F5?)
Clevo ( currently no news yet)
The QS testing card requires a deposit of 5000 in china, Full refund after card is returned after testing.

 

PM @thegh0sts for his upgrade with MSI 1070N in his 870DM.
There seems to be no fix for the Clevos for Zotac, Prema himself said that the EC won't accept the Thermal sensor from that GPU variant.

 

Can you please explain the last line your comment? Does it mean that you have to pre-order the card by depositing money?

 

i meant if you want to get a QS testing card, you have to pay a deposit of 5000 first. (just for testing)
If you want the actual retail card (non-QS), you have to wait till they fix the bug and start mass manufacture the cards probably.
i suppose we can get the actual by end of April?

 

what's the problem?

 

@bennyg wanted to know the upgrade with MSI 1070N with Clevo and the Problem with the 100W Zotac 1070 in Clevos was this.

 

if there was a problem with the thermal sensor on the MSI 1070 you'd think that people at Eurocom and Prema would have already checked and verified it and i wouldn't have spent the $1300AUD for an MSI 1070. but since i am here and i am getting thermal sensor readings with no problems.

 

well, i have seen MSI 1070 in 750zm, 770zm. So, i would say MSI 1070 is completely fine, except for the price.

 

Erm, no... I already know about the working MSI 1070 it's been discussed extensively in the P870 owners lounge and also on techinferno. @Coolane (sp?) also has done it.

I wanted to know what it *is* on a hardware/firmware level about the MSI 1070 that makes it WORK when it's a non clevo card.

So whatever it is could be tried on other cards

or passed on to Gecube so they don't have the same problem as with the RX480

 

they dont sell to end users.. i emailed them..

 

You misunderstood. The issue wasn't with the 1070N MSI it was with the Zotac 1070.

 

Talked to Gecube, they told me that they will start production on Mxm 3.0b Geforce gtx 1070 card in May 2017. They have tested the card on Clevo notebooks.

 

where is this info about the Gecube 1070 MXM?

 

Emailed them and asked, there seems to be no public info anywhere...

 

I see and yet I don't see.

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More testing on gecube 1070
link : http://tieba.baidu.com/p/5039706816
(just look at pictures)

 

If you are using chrome you can choose to translate to english(understandability is YMMV)

 

very nice, seems to be running with MSI vbios on a gt62vr..

 

Seems like this card doesn't allow the vBIOS flashing the way Zotac 1070 allows.
Thus some hardware flashing I guess like what Mr.Fox did on his GTX 1080 F5...

Translate doesn't do it properly...Damn tbh I really hoped the GeCube version would have been shared Quadro design and PnP, A rough uncertain path is what I see ahead for the MXM3.0/1b machines..

 

at least it will be a bit more affordable and less hardware mod involved

 

Why not MXM 3.1A as well?

 

it is actually a 16L1 with modified bios name.

 

I was wondering too, if RX460 / GTX1050 MXM3a card shall exist

 

i wanted to do that but i was told that it was a bad idea.