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    The hopeful of keeping MXM 3.0b alive thread!

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by King of Interns, Aug 17, 2016.

  1. sponge_gto

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    Funny story...

    my friend was using the computer perfectly fine at school. He comes over later that day and tries turning it on. It doesn't turn on...

    So we try everything, remove battery, ram, cmos reset, etc. Nothing worked. So I thought maybe the cable under the power button came off or something. So we remove the palm rest only to find everything looking fine.

    Then I remembered you saying something about the plastic clip being broken so I look at your thread and realized you were referring to the clip at the bottom of the laptop not palm rest. We fix it and everything is fine again lol.

    I hope these new cards work in the AW18, they would be a nice upgrade.
     
  3. woodzstack

    woodzstack Alezka Computers , Official Clevo reseller.

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    As far as I know they made versions in all sizes and tested them and some pictures were leaked here and there, but none I know of are the old size, nVidia stopped supporting mainstream consumer variants that size over 2 years ago. That was the official report from them. They will not help test or design that form factor anymore, but they will for the newer sizes. We knew this since the 980 Desktop variant.
    However - alot of the older 980M's can have the GPU itself replaced if someone had the right equipment, it might even be 100% electrically compatible, or very similiar that some smaller company might take it upon themselves to literally make these cards. The only concern then is the quality of them, or support.
     
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    Okay some things I asked the people selling the RX480 MXM:

    1) They will not ship to the US or do international shipping(they said they don't know how???)

    2) The cards will be released in two months

    3) They don't know if the cards will support crossfire, they will test it when they can

    That's all I got.
     
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  5. sponge_gto

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    Taobao has an option that's similar to eBay's Global Shipping program. As far as the seller's concerned the item will ship to a warehouse in Shanghai and they take over from there. I've once had to buy a book that way for the gf's mum who was quite impressed, needless to say ;).
     
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    1060 cards are starting to show up on taobao, around $500 a piece
     
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    It's probably working due the thing a lot of people hate: Optimus.

    Which would explain why it workes in the first place even though the 1060 doesn't support lvds, with optimus you don't need any kind of working display interface.

    And that would also explain why the 3d screen aka no optimus doesn't work.

    So who is going to try it in a M17x R4 ? ;)
     
  8. woodzstack

    woodzstack Alezka Computers , Official Clevo reseller.

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    Link ?
     
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    Lol guess what I picked up cheapish the other day to test a IB XM I had hanging around? It's a 3D version tho so no igpu and I plan to flip it soon because the design is *so* not to my taste. Still it's got a freshly replaced fantastic 120Hz panel which you still can't say about many notebooks sold today.

    Also, I've been reading up on it, you lose 3D with pretty much any user upgrade but 3D is abandoned tech so no loss really

    Btw I don't understand why ppl rag on optimus. Maybe memories of it's first couple of years. Sure if your unit never leaves the AC plug you don't notice it but triple the battery life is very nice when I want it. I think I've had to touch an optimus profile twice in 4 years of it with the 680M. It will be some kind of minor irony if Pascals are plug n play because of it :)
     
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    $527 US dollars for the GTX 1060. At least it's cheaper than 980M and faster. Too bad it doesn't support SLI though.
     
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    I hope it will be compatible.....crossfingers
    gtx1060 sli it will be great
     
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    GTX 1060 does not support sli. Only 1070 and 1080
     
  16. woodzstack

    woodzstack Alezka Computers , Official Clevo reseller.

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    SO they want like close to 1,000USD for the card. That original price you see is for a 870M...

    anyways, something seems odd, because no company is making those cards that anyone knows of.

    Can't always trust what you see online these days. I would try it, and order it, but I can;t even create an account everything is in chinese.
     
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    Everything seems pretty sketchy ... and at $1000 US per card I don't know anyone that would risk it. It would be nice if it turns out to be real but I remain hesitant. At least I know my 980m from Woodzstack will run just fine when I get it. I don't think I would take the risk on something that more then some obscure forum post from China claimed worked :p
     
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    Where are you guys seeing $1,000?? It's $527 after converting to US currency.
     
  19. Ashtrix

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    There was a post at TI saying GeCube can make 1070 MXMs on request, If that works out the 1060 option can be dismissed.
    Well I guess when people are getting the 3 year old laptop a new life, the GTX 1070 is the most viable option, since 1060 runs just 15-20% faster than 980M, So IMO price is negotiable if we can get some custom order not that 1000$ rip off lel.
     
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    you're leaving out the poor people :D
     
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    Sounds plausible but they seem to be completely industry-oriented so the cost of these special requests might be interesting to know..
     
  22. TBoneSan

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    On some of my old car modding forums we used to do group buys... Let's make that a thing!
     
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    I would be in regarding the RX 480/E9550!
     
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  24. triturbo

    triturbo Long live 16:10 and MXM-B

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    Same as above.
     
  25. TBoneSan

    TBoneSan Laptop Fiend

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    We should be doing it for everything. Retail is for suckers.
     
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    So how it's going to work? Shall we make a separate Thread then? Sorry, never done this before.
     
  27. TBoneSan

    TBoneSan Laptop Fiend

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    A dedicated thread for sure. I'm not up for the 480 but I'd be happy to see it happen along with future group buys happen.

    Is anyone is good contact with the 480 seller?
     
  28. devilhunter

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    Im in for real, I dont mind getting a single 1080GTX MXM, if its great I will buy two.
     
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    We need someone for this mandarine website at least!
     
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    cant help you, I dont speak mandarine. However, if someone can provide me step by step instructions (even if its require electrical and physical mods) Im willing to purchase and try it out.

    Regards.
     
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    Im in for the 1060 or the 9550 or RX 480
     
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    I'm in for the RX 480/E9550. nVidia can suck a fat one for all I care after their ridiculous shenanigans the past couple years. Nothing would please me more than to sell all the 980Ms I have and stuff RX 480s in all my systems
     
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    I agree with you on Nvidia's and Intel's ******** in the recent years (haswell 4940 mx and pascal change).

    If you are really interested in selling 980m sli, please let me know. Serious buyer here.
     
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    Lets do it!

    I'm in for any of the cards, but more interested in the RX 480 or the E9550.

    So, what is the next step?
     
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    Does anybody knows about the price for the gtx1060 sli??
     
  36. Deks

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    1060 does NOT support SLI (and has no hardware DX12 support either).
    If you are talking about desktop, might I suggest you go the 2x 480 (undervolted of course to match 1060 in efficiency for the most part) route instead, or wait for Vega?
     
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    Isn't mobile RX 480 weaker than 980m? AFAIK it is even weaker than 970m.
     
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    No I'm talking for mobile gaming...
    no sli for 1060.... :(
    what do you mean no hardware dx12 support??
    I think I will stuck with my babys 970m's...oh well
     
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    Not at all!
     
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    there is a chinese alienware forum where quite a few have tried and got the 1060 running on their alienware 17 but with no 3D.

    That listing is a bit more expensive than others i have seen however the side by side comparison pics are quite helpful.
     
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    Where...in the hell did you get that idea? the RX 480 ranks between desktop 970 and desktop 980, which would be stronger than the 980M.
     
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    Could you please share the link for that Chinese Forum?

    Thanks in advance!
     
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    First of all, apart from E9550 (which uses MXM 3.0b for embedded solutions and specs-wise is identical to desktop RX 480 while having a TDP of 95W), there does not appear to be a mobile RX 480 as of yet (at least, not the 150W version). Most of the news sources in western countries seem to be covering RX 470 (120W) that's going to be placed into Alienware laptops, and according to some performance slides, the RX 470 for laptops outclasses 980m by about 30%... that is possibly under DX11... and under DX12, it would outclass it by a lot more.
    Under Vulkan and some DX12 titles where AMD's async computing is taken advantage of for the most part, the RX 470 seems to be trading blows with 1060, while the RX 480 is relatively near (but still slower than) 1070.


    The 1060 in notebooks is based on the desktop version... meaning, no SLI support at all regardless of how you look at it.

    As for no hardware DX12 support... it means it doesn't have hardware asynchronous compute capabilities (which typically give AMD a pretty good boost in DX12 and especially Vulkan supported games - and if history is any indication, there's a good chance that performance will continue to increase with subsequent driver releases for AMD - unlike Nvidia, which has a tendency to stop supporting older hardware after a new generation of GPU's is released - so their performance will more or less be the same, or experience very small to no boosts).

    Point remains that Nvidia's Pascal is not longevity oriented hardware. More and more games and software will likely be taking advantage of DX12 and possibly Vulkan, so AMD's current mid-range gpu's on desktop will actually increase in performance.
     
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    as long as the display is capable, it doesnt matter what kinda hardware u have installed otherwise ;) if the gpu is actually able to drive games at 120fps+ is another matter, naturally...
     
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