The hopeful of keeping MXM 3.0b alive thread!

would be amazing if we can get Vega 56 in MXM 3.0b form factor

 

if they use a compatible EC.

 

I think that in the future mxm will continue to exist

do you know if amd is working on an autopilot program for some car manufacturer like nvidia with tesla? because that could be a good incentive for making powerful gpu amd in mxm format IMO
tesla uses nvidia mxm cards and there are 500000 preorders for tesla model 3 + 80000 order (for year) for tesla model s+tesla model x and each one has 1 o 2 mxm nvidia cards, so 500000/1000000+80000/160000 of mxm cards for nvidia

edit
zotac is pushing those with zbox magnus and there are many other applications for mxm cards


now asrock is lauching mini-stx mobo with mxm cards

 

Do you know whether the Eurocom 580 MXM is EC compatible?

 

no, the only way to know is to try and see what happens. if it fails to boot or just shuts down then it could be an incompatible EC.

 

I am fairly confident those 1070s for the AW17 they are selling are the MSI 1070s, which is non mxm 3.0b and will require modifying the chassis and heatsink.

They have been available for awhile now so they are probably not the "standard mxm 3.0b 1070/1080" @Eurocom Support said are coming "soon".

 

I have yet to see an RX480/580 version with a Clevo compatible thermal sensor...

 

We have few standard MXM 3.0b size cards coming soon: GTX 1070 and GTX 1080 as well as AMD RX580. They should work in any older laptop as long as it has eDP based LCD panel. Some of our new Coffee Lake Z370 laptops will support them too.

 

do they come with or without external power?

 

Yes - they will come without external power.

 

it would be interesting if they came with 4-pin power plug for the 1080

EDIT: So I theoretically could do 1080s in SLI? don't play me man!

 

This is awesome news. I hope those things will be avelible for EU as well.

 

i'll take a CL laptop thanks.

 

eDP based LCD panel. Does that mean no go for LVDS Panels on optimus i.e. P150EM P157SM?

 

When will we see them available?

I don't see why optimus wouldn't work. Works with 1060 and MSI 1070.

 

Do you know this thread?

http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/how-do-you-want-your-next-laptop-to-be-built.808062/

 

An interesting update although I can't disclose further yet. I am in discussion with an embedded graphics card supplier. They sell the E9260 4GB mxm board (standard MXM 3.0A 50W) for USD 290 and also offer the possibility to engineer LVDS output into the module for an additional NRE charge. I will update once I know what this charge is and when they begin to stock the E9550 MXM cards plus the module price. (PCI versions they already have).

Would there be interest to jointly fund this NRE charge among the community to get E9260 and E9550 MXM cards that support both eDP and LVDS output at a competitive price? PM me your interest so I can get an idea of support for the initiative.

 

isn't that just an RX 480?

 

90W version of the RX 480 yes

 

Would there be crossfire support?

 

That's the question! I'm awaiting to see if I can stretch other years of gaming from my m18x-r2 and in the meantime playing with new puppet monsta ^_^

 

I'm looking to upgrade the GPU in my Alienware M17x R2 soon and I have been looking for the quickest possible single card setup (crossfire support is patchy in the games i play).

I have confirmation that the AMD 8970M (and likely the M290X since its the same card) work fine.

I have found a few AMD W7170Ms (M390X) for sale however. I'd like to see if any of you think its worth giving the W7170M/M390X a go. The cards aren't that expensive and its a fairly risk free exercise as I can always sell the card on eBay for the same price. I believe these have LVDS support so driver/BIOS/vBIOS support is the only thing which could stop it working.

Some people tried the 970M a while ago, but that had display issues with inverted colours et cetera, so I doubt any of the other nVidia cards of that era will work. If anyone has any other suggestions please let me know.

If its unlikely to work then I will just go for the 8970M, the performance of that is more than adequate for what I need.

 

I've been out of the loop for quite a while and pretty forgetful of the hardware details of my machine. Are those with an older machine like mine still out of luck when it comes to upgrading their GPU? I'm pretty sure my 7970M bit the dust today, so it's either replace it or buy something better, or get a desktop.

 

Should technically be able to run in Alienware with optimus, right? Many people have gotten the 1060 and 1070 MSI cards to run in optimus mode in the M18x/M17x w/o EDP

i wish there was a way for you add back LVDS support, an onboard module or something.

 

i dont really wanna go into learning display details, this work on p570wm? @Meaker@Sager know if it works?

 

Unfortunately you kind of need to know the display if it's an older model. I just recently purchased a clevo p751zm from someone and this has been a question on my mind as well... and the answer I have reached is that IPS screens are eDP.

http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/whats-different-between-edp-wide-view-and-ips.782043/

It seems like Eurocom has stated a few times that LVDS is a no go.

But I'm honestly not sure.. and I'm hoping you can get a more knowledgeable answer from someone else.

 

msi gtx1060 is just available for that model on the eurocom store
http://www.eurocom.com/ec/upgrade(2,282,0)CLEVO_P570WM_SAGER_NP9570

so pascal cards should be ok for that model

 

That answer is a bit inaccurate; there are both IPS+LVDS (or VA+LVDS) screens and TN+eDP panels.

The technologies are very much in a separate field. TN/IPS deal with the lcd itself and LVDS/eDP is merely the interface to connect to the lcd assembly. It's just that the general transition to both technologies runs more-or-less parallel, so you will find a higher proportion of screen with LVDS+TN and eDP+IPS rather than the two other combinations. Same thing for CCFL, the backlight being a distinct component of the lcd assembly; lcd show the image, the backlight providing the 'oomph' behind that like a flashlight.

There's even two CCFL+TN+eDP displays (for desktop monitors). They would be a good choice for people suffering from eye-fatigue, the extremely high refresh rate of a CCFL being much superior to WLED. It'd be interesting to see how OLEDs perform in this regard, having no backlight at all.

 

Thanks! That actually clarifies a lot.

Thankfully I think the panel in most stock p751zms is the B156HAN01.2

Is there any way to make sure before deciding on a gpu?

 

some news from Eurocom
http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...a-precision-m7710.804833/page-3#post-10590681

did you test clevo p750dm2?

thanks for these infos
I know that MSI 16L13 uses also a MSI gtx1060 mxm 3.0b. Does P5000 work with tornado f5 ?

wow! those P2000/P3000 for tornado f5 are awesome
what about that p3000 for a p750dm?

wow! these news are great!

 

http://www.coolpc.com.tw/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=242246&p=634090
DeskMini GTX












105x82mm GTX1060

 

it is really similar to the Aetina gtx1060
http://www.aetina.com.tw/products-detail.php?i=86



asrock gtx1060
http://www.coolpc.com.tw/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=242246&p=634090

 

Plug that display model ID into panelook.com's search

When you find the exact listing it should tell you the interface and the number of pins/lanes

 

Oh right, the panel I listed is compatible. However, I wanted to make sure that's the panel I actually have. I can't boot it up, as I don't have a gpu... but I'd like to know if I should save for a 980m or a 1060. So I was wondering if there was any other way to tell.

I think it's a relatively safe gamble as the p751zm launched after the p750zm by a few months. The later p750zm models ran with the eDP screens. The review models of the p751zm were also stocked with the eDP screen.

But I would like to make sure before dropping so much on a new gpu.

The problem with the p750zm is that it was right on the cusp of LVDS and eDP I guess. I just want to make sure the p751zm is with an eDP screen... as it could potentially be LVDS

 

Disassemble the lid, it'll be on a sticker the rear of the panel

e.g.

 

if the new 1070s and 1080s have an SLI connector then that would be cool.

 

ASRock releases the small form-factor DeskMini GTX/RX PC with GTX 1080
https://www.notebookcheck.net/ASRoc...eskMini-GTX-RX-PC-with-GTX-1080.245958.0.html
https://www.asrock.com/nettop/intel/DeskMini GTXRX/index.us.asp#Overview

• 
  
  • upports Intel® 7th Core™ / Pentium® / Celeron® LGA1151 processors
  • Discrete MXM slots with Type A/B/B+, up to GeForce GTX1080
  • Dual DDR4 SO-DIMMs, up to 32GB
  • 4K@60Hz video outputs: HDMI, DisplayPort, mini DisplayPort
  • Up to 3 x Ultra M.2 PCIe Gen3 x4 Slots
  • Supports Intel® Optane™ Technology
  • USB 3.1 Gen1 type-C port
  • Brand new Micro STX platform
  • 2.7 Liter tiny size

 

I need to see that 1080 mxm board, maybe there's still a reason to keep my Alienware 17 R1.

 

Asrock should use Aetina cards

this is an asrock gtx1060


Aetina gtx1060


so the gtx1080 should be this one
Aetina gtx1080

 

If that's the case, then I guess I won't be able to use it. Requires power connector and is longer.

 

Yeah I noticed that, kind of a bummer

I'd still hold onto that Alienware, see what Eurocom puts out in Nov/Dec

 

It'll just collect dust, since I have my P870DM3 and I might be having an AW13 R3 coming soon as well. I'll be sure to break some records in the 13 r3 area for everyone

My brother has the M18xR2
My friend, she has my old M18xR2 Nebula Red Maxed Out

I'll probably end up giving my AW17 R1 to my sister so it stays within the family and I'll play with it next year assuming all goes well on that mxm 3.0b hype.

Got at least three laptops that could use that 1080 mxm 3.0b love.

 

Taobao 1050 TI MXM A has been out of stock for awhile https://world.taobao.com/item/547978332584.htm?spm=a312a.7700714.0.0.LAovP2#detail
And Aetina seems to have replaced the vanilla 1050 with the 1030

 

the 1080 looks nice, might be able to fit inside my 775dm1 with the power as well, but problem is the price and if they ever sell to end-users.

 

it could fit into the P870DM-G with that power cord.

 

Are you talking about the 4 pin fan header into the 19V aux gpu power ports?... Don't do that.

 

Is that what that is? JEEZ!

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the 4pin from 775DM1 and 870DM is a fan header???

 

is this 4pin used for fan?

 

If youre referring to the blue/green/yellow/black wires at the very bottom coming from the gpu fan, yes. Probably the standard +12V, ground, pwm, and a return rpm line so the mobo can read its speed

P870DM has three small (1mm, between pins) 3pin fan headers, as well as the 4 pin ports J_DC1 and J_DC2 which are for aux power to GPUs (the first of which is only ever used and only for single 980DT).