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    The hopeful of keeping MXM 3.0b alive thread!

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by King of Interns, Aug 17, 2016.

  1. thegh0sts

    thegh0sts Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    It's for the 4 screws that secure the heatsink to the gpu x bracket, not the screws that hold the MXM card in place.

    Sent from my SM-T560NU using Tapatalk
     
  2. Falkentyne

    Falkentyne Notebook Prophet

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    Sorry, I'm not talking about the screws that hold the MXM card in place. Those are standard M.2 screws (the exact same screws that hold the case cover in place too).

    I'm talking about the screws that screw into the heatsink to secure the heatsink on the CPU and GPU.

    Does anyone here know what exact screws those are and what to order from that laptopscrews.com

    Here are the screws that pretty much screw into most of the MSI Chassis, including M2 slots and secure the mxm card and even the VRM heatsink in place:

    http://www.laptopscrews.com/M2x4.htm

    But I'm looking for the bigger screws (as shown in the screenshot I linked) that secure the *HEATSINKS* in place.

    Anyone know the measurements?

    @bloodhawk @Mr. Fox @Papusan ? :(
     
  3. thegh0sts

    thegh0sts Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    As I said the screws I bought are for the x-bracket to hold the heatsink to the gpu die.

    Sent from my SM-T560NU using Tapatalk
     
  4. thegh0sts

    thegh0sts Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    The screws came in a pack of 50. If they work I'll be happy to forward some over.

    Sent from my SM-N910G using Tapatalk
     
  5. Mr. Fox

    Mr. Fox BGA Filth-Hating Elitist

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    I replaced all of the screws inside of the DM3 I sold to Dr. AMK with stainless steel pan head screws. They were not very magnetic and easy to drop, but much harder, far more resistant to stripping out, and had a deeper Philips slot than the wafer head screws. It was a huge improvement over the soft and crappy quality original equipment laptop screws.
     
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  6. thegh0sts

    thegh0sts Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    I'm still gonna give the hex head screws a try and see if they work for me.

    Sent from my SM-N910G using Tapatalk
     
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  7. Mr. Fox

    Mr. Fox BGA Filth-Hating Elitist

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    Allen-head? Yeah, they should work just fine. I did not know that is what you ordered.
     
  8. thegh0sts

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    the key/wrench size for the screws is 1.5mm cos they're metric hex screws and the key is small & thin enough that I could just tape it to the inside of the case without losing it.

    EDIT: Plus I can get enough leverage on the key to make it easier to screw and unscrew. My belief is that the hex design is less prone to stripping compared to a phillips head due to the amount of surface contact the hex has over the phillips. so it should make it easier to manage. I think this should be standard....but whatevs.
     
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  9. thegh0sts

    thegh0sts Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    along with the 50 pack i ordered from china, i ordered a 10 pack from an australian supplier on ebay and i should get those before the week is out. i better make sure I have the right hex key.
     
  10. bennyg

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    I don't normally link to LTT, but...

    MXM, with Swiftech waterblock, in SFF gaming PC.
     
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  11. thegh0sts

    thegh0sts Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    can we steal that MXM 1080? LOL
     
  12. thegh0sts

    thegh0sts Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    OK, so the screws I bought are not the right size :(

    oh well.
     
  13. bennyg

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    I found the x bracket that came with my MSI 1070s used a slightly bigger screw than usual. Lucky I had some random torx heads either from a hard drive or phone, I'm weird like that, always stripping things before chucking them.

    Swapping the x bracket with a standard one would also work.
     
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    thegh0sts Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    hmm....interesting. what screws does the standard x-bracket use?
     
  15. Z3us_PL

    Z3us_PL Notebook Consultant

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    Is somewhere any unlocked vBios fot gtx 1060 Clevo version?
     
  16. triturbo

    triturbo Long live 16:10 and MXM-B

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    Guys, do you know that WX7100/RX480 is finally available? Check it out.
     
  17. TheDantee

    TheDantee Notebook Evangelist

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    Been available for a while.... Requires and edp.display pretty sure so u can only use 1 in SG Mode if at all.... While being about the same performance of a 980M its not really worth it and a 1070 or 980M SLI is a much better option... Edit - Sorry was on the go thought this was in an Alienware 18 forum lol... But I still think a single 1070 or SLI 980M is a better option

    Sent from my ONEPLUS A5000 using Tapatalk
     
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    Well, right now i don't really have the spare cash even for the cheaper GeCube RX560 from Taobao (which would come out under 200$) :p I'd class that as "still reasonable", but 300$? That's quite stretching it...
     
  21. Reciever

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    I'd probably try it but I dont know anything about troubleshooting these cards to work in older laptops especially with LVDS panels.

    Havent heard from @valuxin in a while either so I assume the guys been busy with other things in his life.
     
  22. Mullrof

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    so a.
    we have MXM 3.0b dead thread
     
  23. jaybee83

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    hey guys! whats the current situation on the 1070 standard mxm 3.0b cards? we got gecube, zotac, eurocom (also gecube? but with more mosfets?)....what else? any indication of them NOT blowing up in our faces? maybe by running them at their intended TDP of 115W.

    also, anyone tried one of them cards in a P7xxDM series machine successfully? :)
     
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  24. ssj92

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    They're all basically the same. The best one is the MSI GTX 1070
     
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    ...which is not standard mxm 3.0b though :D

    Sent from my Xiaomi Mi Max 2 (Oxygen) using Tapatalk
     
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    Its mxm3.0b-ish lol
     
  27. Eurocom Support

    Eurocom Support Company Representative

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    Our GTX 1060 and 1070 cards are standard size MXM 3.0b. Electrical spec is 3.1 supporting only eDP LCD panels. Starting with 10 series GPUs there is no support for LVDS based LCD panels. To get GTX 10 series working you would need to have either eDP LCD panel or Optimus based laptop (with LVDS and/or eDP panel) where internal display is handled via iGPU.
     
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    jaybee83 Biotech-Doc

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    do you have any experience regarding the standard mxm 3.0b 1070 in the Clevo P7xxDM series? The one that originally came with 6700K and 980M? any info on this would be much appreciated :)
     
  29. triturbo

    triturbo Long live 16:10 and MXM-B

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    @Eurocom Support is the P5000 same design as GTX 1070 (MXM board, chokes, MOSFETs and etc) or is it different? A picture would be awesome! Thanks.
     
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    GTX 1060 and 1070 GPUs are not supported in P7xxDM series due to limitations of the GPU heatsink. The cost of designing new GPU heatsink is too high even to consider.
     
  31. Eurocom Support

    Eurocom Support Company Representative

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    P5000 image is available here: [link to own site removed by moderator - read forum rules]
    P5000 layout is similiar to GTX 1070 so you can use the same GPU heatsink. We have P5000, P4000 and P3000 available in stock.
     
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  32. jaybee83

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    oh im aware of that. one would have to, say, get a second heatsink and mod the gpu part to fit the new card ;) have u tested the P870DM, for instance? just want to know if it generally works in terms of electrical / firmware compatibility.

    Sent from my Xiaomi Mi Max 2 (Oxygen) using Tapatalk
     
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  33. Raidriar

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    and charge a ridiculous upmark for it too.....I can understand a 5-10% upmark over cost maybe even 25% for aftermarket support but a 50% upmark? Beyond unreasonable and just greedy practice at that point to charge $2500 for a $1200 card.
    https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?sp...lBfgB&id=561418335653&ns=1&abbucket=10#detail
     
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  34. jaybee83

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    thats not eurocom though, thats just general Quadro professional card premium :)
     
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    If you supply a Dell service tag to the parts department for a 7720 equipped with a P5000 they will sell you a brand new P5000 w/ 1 year warranty for $1600 Still a far cry from $2500 w/ 90 day warranty. This outrageous pricing and abandonment of standards is what drove people out of this game.
     
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    ok THAT is indeed crazy *lol*
     
  37. bennyg

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    That's ballpark for eurocom, 25-50% premium over a "normal" price for pretty much every upgrade or replacement part.

    To be fair though, I don't see other resellers putting the same amount of work into their website if they even have a dedicated upgrade section. If they maintain stock on hand (I've never ordered from them) the management of inventory and avoiding overinvestment would be hard from a business perspective... the alternative to having stock on hand (such as when I go through my Aus reseller for obscure bits) is a 4 to 6 weeks delivery timeframe.

    Worst from them I saw was the upgraded eDP cable for P870 for $161, on taobao is like $40 ex shipping, a part used in every QHD/4K P870, and cables like that ordered in bulk wholesale lots are very very cheap per unit.

    /offtopic
     
  38. triturbo

    triturbo Long live 16:10 and MXM-B

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    I'm not going to defend anyone, just stating a fact - the Eurocom version is GDDR5X. Money are money in the end and I don't have a money tree either.
     
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  39. Papusan

    Papusan Jokebook's Sucks! Dont waste your $$$ on Filthy

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    Buy one :D Put in coins and get 10 times back :p
    [​IMG]
     
  40. Mobius 1

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    lets not forget that prema has cut ties with Eurocom, I woulnd't trust them one bit after that


    the P5000m is GDDR5x though? how is that possible?
     
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    I'm assuming they just swap the memory over from a 1080. @Khenglish was able to swap memory over from a desktop 980 to a 980M PCB so I'm assuming they could do the same thing. That being said, I've never seen a GPU-Z screenshot or bench of that "GDDR5X" P5000, probably because nobody is stupid enough to shell out $2500 for a single MXM card with no crossfire opportunity.
     
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    But to use GDDR5X you need extra circuitry of power to activate it.

    Does the MXM P5000M even have it.
     
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    I would wager yes, as the desktop P5000 does in fact have GDDR5X
     
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    But the P5000 mobile is GTX1070 core though
     
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    Do we know that for a fact? It could be just a P5000 core with cut cuda cores no?
     
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    Prema Your Freedom, Your Choice

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    And there it is. Eurocom caught in another lie.....

    Clevo P5000, Dell P5000, and unspecified Taobao P5000 use GDDR5, but the magic Eurocom P5000 uses GDDR5X? Amazing
     
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    I was mailing with eurocom few months ago and decided they are not worth trust.
    They milked me from all information I know, used it for own business and left with offer that makes nonesense. Thats the payoff!
    Someone said they are greedy. I totaly agree.

    They even didnt check the information they milked me from and just putted it on the website. They misunderstand me and putted the wrong information as a working solution, while I know it is not working because I checked it myself.

    Its sad.
     
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    what kind of information did they milk you of?
     
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