The hopeful of keeping MXM 3.0b alive thread!

I think you are the first person in the history of the world to upload this vBios lol I wonder if it were sent to GeCube could they take the eDP code and add it to their RX 480 vBios

 

http://www.gecube.com/product.php?cid=30&id=69 the Gecube 480 is supposed to have 8 GB VRAM as well

 

My friend already gave the vbios to Gecube, they say AMD wants to know the output interface of his GT72S.
DDC version? <<<<we could not find any info on this.

 

Why wouldn't AMD just ask the OEM of the laptop?

 

You need 8GB vRAM or more going forward. FFXV easily eats all 8gb of my 980M

 

Is @dzpliu 480 not a Gecube version?

Agreed, Though in my case I saturate the core typically long before I can saturate the vRAM. I like to play 120fps so I cut graphical settings to maintain that threshold.

Which is why I am ok with 4GB for a 1-2 year card before I start working and get w/e is available and working in the 17R1. Will probably be the MSI 1070 but who knows maybe the Rangers will get lucky with another generation.

 

They do not have 8G version anymore, they will make 580 in the future though.

 

@dzpliu

why dont you just flash the RX480 with the WX vbios?

 

in theory, this wont work, the RX480 comes with 4G HYNIX GDDR5, while WX7100 comes with 8G SAMSUNG GDDR5.

 

you said you got programmer ;p

one time I flashed 2GB 8970m succesfully with 4gb vbios.

nothing bad changed.
the gpu-z detected it still as a 2GB version.

it worked normaly.

 

forgot to mention, it is the first thing he tried when he got both cards.
total black screen, even external display doesnt work.

 

understood

 

ANY hopes of getting a vega mxm 3.0b?

 

the lowest Vega card is over 200w TDP right?

 

No

 

I could see it happen for industrial OpenCL/GPGPU type applications like we see with some nVidia MXMs but that doesn't guarantee they will come with eDP bioses maybe after dieshrinks/ Vega2 or Navi will there be silicon intended for laptops

 

i'm just sitting here waiting for 11xx cards to come out so 1060 and 1070 cards will go down in price lol

 

there are also amd cards made by TUL
https://www.asrock.com/nettop/avl/DeskMini GTXRX.pdf

 

Any hope and dreams the Radeon WX 7100 will work in a Clevo machine??
Or are we still dealing with the lack of temp sensor issues and EC shutdown?

 

TBH I dont think anyone has tried.

 

no idea. havent heard of anyone trying it with Clevo yet, most of them are using MSI GT72 series, GT60, GT70

 

So anyone test a 1080m mxm3.0 yet?

 

they're pretty rare + Expensive and all but the zotac one requires external power all of them are outside the size specs of the MXM B standard and some have the GPU in the wrong place when compared to the MXM standard

 

so theres this chinese guy over in one of the bios mod threads porting CFL functionality to DM and later Clevo models. he posted a picture of a nextgen nvidia card in standard mxm 3.0b format and even similar PCB layout to maxwell cards...supposedly a 1060 successor. not sure how much there is to that though!

link: http://forum.notebookreview.com/index.php?posts/10713039

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I sure hope it is what we think. I wouldn't mind dropping $700 on a 1180.

 

are you referring to desktop cards now?

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The die does look suspiciously similar in size and shape to GP104.

 

...cough...P5200...cough...

 

ha! new quadro deesign then, interesting ive recently changed my considerations to include P series quadros for a gpu upgrade. would certainly help in the heatsink modding department (basically making it unnecessary!). on the other hand, overclocking headroom and power delivery / clocks would be limited compared to a regular 1070 standard mxm hmmm....

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No a gtx 1180m in a 3.0b socket

 

Even a quatro mobile card in the next generation will do.as long as it's comparable to a 1180m in terms of speed and performance.

 

I think the next generation if there are any 3.0B cards lke the Dell P5000, I think I can stomach the optimus requirement for 2 x 1080 performance in one card.

 

and optimus would cut your performance back down to 1x 1080

 

Better than taking a 1070 now and cutting down to a 970M

 

on point

 

Though honestly at this point I'm not playing the laptop game any longer. I haven't bought a new computer in 4 years, and barring the small project I have going on with @Khenglish , I'm not sinking any more money into laptops.

 

Thinkpad 25

 

You mean the computer Lenovo ran like 5 polls on before developing then decided to ignore the results of all 5 polls? T61p laughs at T25

 

which basically is a T470 with different top cover

 

boy am i confused right now...

@Eurocom Support

does the p5000 standard mxm3.0b work on DM1 series machines or not? first im reading quotes from your tech support that lots of mxm 3.0b machines including the DM1 series cannot power up with the card due to insufficient power delivery from the mobo.

then i see the P870DM on your upgrade page being offered with a p5000 option.

also, have you ever tested the 1070 standard mxm 3.0b on the DM1 series? yes i know the heatsink would have to be mofidied, but im talking about sbios / vbios compatibility

also, whats the rated tdp of the standard 1070 mxm cards? ive seen like 5 different values floating around! 90W, 100W, 115W, 125W, 150W... which one is it now? and whats up with all those user reports saying these cards go up in flames easily due to cheap components being used?

so many questions, so many ambivalent and contradictory answers floating around!

please clarify eurocom

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Hopefully we get solid answers for the community.

 

the Dell P5000 is a typical format MXM 3.0B card, no SLI support as typical of quadros, performance is between 1060 and 1070 (lower power card), give Dell parts a 7720 service tag and you can get the P5000 for $2000 from them with a 1 year warranty. Eurocom will charge you $2500 with a 90 day warranty. Enjoy

The "Eurocom 1070" is not a special card, simple copypasta of the Gecube 1060 and they've been messing around with the TDP trying to max out performance but people are blowing cards because the FETs are not enough to deliver higher power, hence why they're playing with multiple TDP values.

As far as power delivery is concerned on the DM1, I don't see why it would deliver any less than the Alienware M18x R2 or Alienware 17 R1, both of which can run the P5000 and MSI 1070 just fine.

@Khenglish and @Prema would be better qualified to answer than Eurocom really......especially when they still have this up on their website lol

 

I like my laptop but,$2000 usd is just a ripoff.

 

Ebay has them from taiwan for $1400

 

Taobao has them for 920 USD from China

 

MXM cards are rated in TGP (BGA in TDP):

MXM-B 1070 is 90W
MXM-B P5000 is 100W
CLEVO/MSI 1070 115W
CLEVO OC 1070 is 125W

They tested 150W vBIOS during early Pascal development but never made MP versions.

 

now thats very valuable info right there, thx for that TGP is typically at 80-85% of total board power (TDP) so at a range of 90-125W TGP the whole boards should then be anywhere in the range of 106-156W... interesting.

too bad theres NO P5200 mxm board available anywhere yet, according to techpowerup gpu database its roughly at 1070 Ti levels.

sooo... is it possible to overclock a P5000? using nvidia inspector or similar?



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MXM TGP is already entire board BGA TDP is only DIE.

P5000 has locked vRAM slider and needs a vBIOS Mod.

 

So if TGP is the entire board power, wouldn't it be a bad idea to OC VRAM, assuming you're not BW-limited, because then it would steal power headroom from the GPU core?

 

It's usually best to find the stable vRAM limit first and then only add the core.