The hopeful of keeping MXM 3.0b alive thread!

So this works on LVDS without the need for utilizing integrated graphics?

If so this will be the next GPU in my CLEVO.

 

Nope

 

I must have misunderstood that then.

 

Oh sorry LOL, they were all kind of just unamed, oh well Eurocom uses the same BIOS anyway, do you know any method of editing the vBIOS files?? I like to increase TDP from 85W to 100/130W and core clock to 1500Mhz if its stable enough, it only does max 64 degrees in my Alienware, I can definitely push it some more, no wonder its just BARELY beating the 1060 if its TDP rate is 85W.

Sorry mate, Dell cards do not work in Clevo because Clevo REQUIRES the GPU to have built in Clevo EC readers, one of the reasons why I went from Clevo to Alienware, the limited scope of upgradability.

 

Look into powerplay table registry edits, you may not need to vbios flash.

Yes this is unfortunately why rx480 never went anywhere in clevos despite being less than half the price of a MXM 1060.

Your decision must have been made some time ago as Alienwares are all soldered junk now

 

Use a driver uninstall utility for the graphics card drivers in w10 and it has an option to disable auto updating of gpu drivers from windows update.

https://www.guru3d.com/files-details/display-driver-uninstaller-download.html

This is one of the first things I do after installing windows. I like it to auto update other things like networking drivers so this disables just the gpu's from what I can tell. Then install your modded intel driver for screen overclocking and amd/nvidia driver and it will stay forever if you want.

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This basically ... I still have my Ranger for the LOLz

 

Wow, this makes me want to try a WX 7100 in my Precision M6800. I tried a W7170m in it a while back but the fan didn't turn on at all with it installed. I wonder if this would work?

 

Theoretically should if you could have a eDP panel or Optimus, the W7170M probably just didn't have auto fan control

 

Yeah, I have the eDP version. I think I'm going to go for it. I was going to go for a 980m for around the same price on eBay but I would much rather go with radeon since it gets along better with Linux.

 

Then the W7170 is for you

 

I dont think w7170m supports LVDS as many of AMD's card didnt but if wrong please correct.

 

I think he meant to say wx7100 since i mentioned the w7170m not working on my machine. I have eDP so I'm not concerned about any potential LVDS incompatibility.

 

The reason why your fans did not turn on is as someone said, the W7170M does not have Dell fan control even though its a Dell card. The reason for this is because Dell is a little bit of a ***** when it comes to how fan control is done so you have to use HWiNFO or SpeedFan as both can do automatic software fan control.
WX 7100 is the same deal for me on the M17x R4, I have to HWiNFO to control the fans in 500 incremental steps which works fine, I would preferred it if I could tune it to respond to a 100 incremental steps but oh well maybe I can using some form of .inf edit, SpeedFan seems to have much better fine adjustments but its solely % and not RPM so its really annoying to use even though its much lighter on resources.

Anyway your Precision M6800 should in fact have WX 7100 as an upgrade option from Dell themselves, try it and flash the GeoCube's Rx 480 vBIOS and it works really nice, once I figured out how to disabled AMD's BIOS Signature Check properly I will post an update on 110W TDP and a 130W TDP vBIOS test and see how the laptop handles a FULL SIZED desktop unlocked Reference Rx 480 setting. Now that will be quite interesting!

 

You think the WX7100 with a RX480 vBios work with Crossfire? Or even better, in a Clevo?

 

How would I go about buying a WX 7100 directly from Dell for my m6800? Do I just call business support or do I have to go through a Dell rep or something? I called around the time the 7710 came out about an upgrade and they said no upgrade, but the customer service person might have just been clueless.

Still, the fact that fan control for the WX 7100 isn't present on your Alienware doesn't give me high hopes. Sure I could set the fan speed in Windows with hwinfo but in Linux (at least with the w7170m) it thought the fan wasn't present at all. I may have to stick with my plans to get a 980m...

 

The RX 480 was confirmed to not work at all in clevo some time ago.

 

Dell does have a policy of upgrade for workstation desktops and notebooks as long as its still under warranty or something last time I checked, but I rather you just get the GPU straight from Taobao using Bhiner as an agent website to obtain it, its MUCH cheaper than even buying it from eBay and the process is pretty straight forward.

As for fan speed, did you try the 7170M in Windows with SpeedFan? If you still got the card laying around I would have done that just to be safe because it should work with either programs doing automatic software fan control.
As for Linux and what times I have been trying to wrestle with that operating system I have only very little positive to say about it so I cannot actually help you in this area because me and Linux do not get along, would not surprise me at all if you had to compile your own bloody drivers just to get the fan to be recognised at all.

The GPU fan on my Alienware does not work either if there is no software to control it so its just stuck dead. Another downside to AMD is the fact that you wont get the full features of ReLive and enhanced sync etc which is a great shame, I been trying to somehow make the card being recognised as a desktop card in order to force them to get installed but with nVidia you do get the full software suite while its not really all that much its still more than what you get with AMD mobile so far unless AMD changes their policy.
And then WX 7100 is way cheaper 300 dollars or so compared to 800 - 1000 dollar 980M not to mention its also faster, by quite some specially if you manage to unlock the 85W TDP to 110W

 

*$350 980m*

 

As for Crossfire?

 

Can you share a direct link to the listing you bought? I see so many listed on taobao

 

Ah yeah sorry I forgot Taobao lists them dirt cheap compared to eBay and Eurocom.

This is the one I bought:
https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a230r.1.14.103.2aa946eexFMnBT&id=563294683537

Here is Rx 480 from GeoCube:
https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?sp...SQP5A&id=538462606241&ns=1&abbucket=10#detail

Same price on the Rx 480, might be worth picking that one up instead, use Bhiner as an agent as they are the cheapest ones around I have found and has the most shipping options.

 

i dont think they sell RX480 anymore, they just didnt remove the listing that's all.
i do have one RX480 4GB from them though

 

GeCube NVIDIA GeForce GTX1060m
http://www.gecube.com/product.php?cid=32&id=81




GeCube NVIDIA GeForce GTX1060
http://www.gecube.com/product.php?cid=32&id=80




GeCube NVIDIA GeForce GTX1070m
http://www.gecube.com/product.php?cid=30&id=83



GeCube NVIDIA GeForce GTX1070
http://www.gecube.com/product.php?cid=32&id=82

 

Jesus christ, that last gecube GTX 1070 oO

8 phase card with 150W, that's an actual desktop level GTX 1070, is there any price on that bad boy?

 

I think that card is really new. SLI connector too. May be @woodzstack can help

 

Would it be purchaseable directly from GeCube or do we have to take a detour through resellers?

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Well hot diggity darn, looks like 1070 SLI just got a lot easier

 

Check taobao or aliexpress

 

https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?sp...iAA2go&id=573568242587&ns=1&abbucket=3#detail

Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. I like this so much, only question if it ships to EU.

Finally a real desktop card. I was starting to lose hope.

 

Looks like this one

https://m.intl.taobao.com/detail/de...f2072SYn4Rc&id=573568242587&ns=1&abbucket=14#

 

Holy Hand grenades Batman! That's looks phenomal! I'm going to buy that ASAP (Bhiner) and shove it in my P377SM-A!

 

It's a beast of a card.
Clevo and MSI versions are trash compared to that one. I would never have dreamed of the day, that we finally get a really good MXM card.

 

Clevo cards are utter garbage, aside from its 1080 beint the only one that had a standard core config. The MSIs were more compact and better, but that extended wing killed it for me.

 

GeCube cards are utter garbage. Like their green PCB MXM-B 1070 resold by Eurocom that burns out left and right unless limited to 90W. And even at 90W some of them went up in the magic smoke.

 

Sorry to ask some more stupid questions, but are these cards p&p or do you need some special (v)Bios for it?
I would like to grab one for my P771DM with standard Bios. The heatsink has to be modified for this card?

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That would be a big bummer! So you already tried them and speaking of personal experience?

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Really?? I have Dell WX7100 flashed with GeCube Rx480 vBIOS, why has not my GPU gone up in smoke yet?? You sure its not the Eurocom vBIOS that is at fault here??? GeCube on Taobao have good reputation, surely such a massive flaw by Gigabyte subsidiary would be noted very quickly since these mostly go into enterprise and mining computers.

EDIT: Forgot its a Dell card not a GeCube

 

You can't compare an AMD video card with an Nvidia video card.

Do a search. There were MANY posts about people buying Gecube cards off taobao and eurocom and the VRM's blowing up, and almost always blowing up when flashed with standard 115W TDP vbioses. Their cards were known to be substandard.

Meanwhile, MSI 1070's are happily taking 230W TDP 24/7 and laughing.

Now, if Gecube retooled their machines and sourced proper VRM's (like the Texas Instruments IC's) then maybe these new cards would be worth a look. Too bad the existing Pascal vbios editor won't work with them. Would have been fun to see if they can take 250W TDP (the MSI 1070 was tested at 260W TDP).

 

The Eurocom 90W vBIOS, given to them by Prema, is what is keeping those green PCB 1070 cards alive. When they first shipped with the 115W vBIOS (some people even flashed 125W MSI vBIOS) they were frying themselves. Even at 90W some of them keep dying, like this person on Discord who's trying to upgrade an M17x R4, he's already sent his card back to Woodzstack several times now. The cards are just very poorly built.

 

In theory, if you have an eDP screen, it should be plug and play except for maybe the top of the card, it looks a little too beefy

 

I've heard the same about the GTX 1070M, however the GTX 1070 is very solid.

 

We'll see once people get their hands on it.

Also the TaoBao page for it says both 115W and 150W which is confusing. I'm more inclined to think it's the former especially with the absence of an external power connector. These will be going in a lot of older machines that do not have as robust MXM power delivery on the mobo, so 150W just seems like asking for trouble.

 

On their own website, Gecube lists the Blue PCB model as 150W (which seems to be accurate do to it's more robust components) and the green PCB as 115W

 

The green PCB card magic smokes at 115W, so let's assume the blue PCB version is safe at 125W.

 

Someone donate one of these cards to me so I can put 230W through it. I'll tell you what it can handle

 

Bs, it's an 8 phase card with decent VRM's, they defnitely learned from the GTX 1070M version, it's extremely unlikely it will die on its own. Chances of your GTX 1080 burning to death is much higher.

 

The component quality is just as important as the number of phases. The green PCB version has 6 phases and still burns out at 115W, while the 6-phase MSI card can do over 200W without problem.

 

Are GeCube using Chinese VRM?? Does anyone know the makes of them, and I was wrong I have Dell manufactured WX 7100 by the looks of it so my bad.

 

How do you know that when none of us have tested one? I hope its good quality, but there is no point jumping to conclusions before any evidence is available. Who's to say they didn't just slap more cheap VRM components on there rather than higher quality components? Only testing it will reveal that.