The hopeful of keeping MXM 3.0b alive thread!

Any hopes of getting a 20xx mxm 3.0b card?

 

In standard form factor? Not likely due to the GDDR6 RAM and the massive GPU core. 1070/980M is the best for most laptops I'm afraid

 

Im just going to get the MSI 1070 unless the zbox 1080 works in the AW17.

Just going to build desktops after this.

 

Just get a Mini ITX or ATX build already, you could build one for the cost of the ZBOX with a 1080. If the kinks are worked out, it does look to be in my future

 

Nah.

When I build desktops, I build for function. The Ranger will tide me over until Zen 2 is out. Then ill build Vega 7nm with Nvidia accelerator (physx/nvenc/extra monitors) Essence STX Sound card and PCIe Sata expansion slots/ PCIe mSata + SATA expansion. I got a lot of HDD's to repurpose plus a few MSATA SSD's.

ITX is fun, but next time I build I would like more than to just game on it.

 

Eh, Z170/Z270 is really cheap nowadays, as well as older workstations (Like the T3500-T3600 HPZ400-Z420)
Hopefully Zen 2 can rip Intel to shreads, would be a nice change. Then maybe Intel can realise that their lead is slipping fast

 

Not interested in mainstream Intel. They may be the performance lead but even if zen 2 is only marginally faster than zen+ its good enough for me. I'm not delidding and voiding warranty to get the thermals in order.

Intel hedt would be considered but it's a bit more expensive than I think I could make use of, plus I don't think I will need that much pcie lanes for my uses.

 

The upcoming i7 and i9 will have soldered IHS so they won't need delidding.

 

I just pop the wx7100 in the M17X-R4 using EDP 120hz panel ... the driver detect the panel and will give more options as far as color setting (RGB ... etc .. )

I'll screenshot the settings when I get off work. Also it has Relive ... not sure what that is for ..

 

Better to ask @Eurocom Support and @woodzstack and @tanzmeister , if anybody would know it would be them.

 

@MahmoudDewy , it's either SG (with integrated , LVDS ) or EDP ( Discrete ) , no standalone LVDS for WX7100.

For RX 480 bios , it's SG only.

 

Relive is recording the internal screen, ie for streamers or youtubers

 

most likely new blue Clevo PCB form factor will remain

 

whats the question ?

 

what the new rtx 2xxx would look like in mxm form

 

Ahhhh! So it does work with EDP!

 

Yes ,very flawless. I'm using with the 1206/1750 bios... the only thing is you have to use hwinfo for fan control.

 

Can you run a firestrike run?

 

With how sad the AW17 fan profiles are I always used HWinfo

One just have to be careful with AMD in booting, safemode, windows installation ... etc.

Or simply cut the 4th fan wire and let go full blow all the time at the expense of insane noise all the time.

 

Can you do a FireStrike benchmark on the thing with standard clock and as high clock as it will go including 50% power limit on it cause the card is so heavily power starved.
I assume Enduro does not work when you use eDP, what are you running it in? PEG?

Also ReLive is the integrated recording software and ingame information counters etc like you can have your FPS on screen and even do fps counting to get a benchmark statistic, basically it completely replaces FRAPS.

 

I will do that and post soon

You mean running with different bios low ( stock) high ( 1750 ) ... and how do I get 50% power limit?

I am running in edp , and how do I check for enduro?

 

If Enduro was enabled, you would see the Intel HD GPU in the device manager, it shouldn't because you're on eDP. And is this the M17X R4 or or 17 R1?

 

Ok , it only shows the wx7100 on edp.

This is ok the m17x r4 ... I can test also on R1 if anyone wants to know.

 

I would like the R1 to be tested, and I'm sure @TheReciever would as well

 

Certainly interested in the WX7100 in the Aw17 R1 with the eDP panel, I think it makes more sense for me to get that card instead of going all in with the 1070 but of course that all depends on price. Some people get them for 300 USD somehow but on ebay they are still 500-600. I dont mind the 130w TDP either.

Where do you guys source these cards from? Alibaba?

 

Any news on the Ranger?

 

WX PRO 7100 in PEG Mode


M17X-R4 Firestrike . PRO WX 7100




AW17 R1 PRO WX 7100

 

Works fine on the Internal display in PEG?

 

Updated last post for Firestrike

Both machine using PEG

 

Very interesting the GPU scores much higher than my overclocked WX7100 which had graphic score of 10 880, this means Enduro (SG Mode) is having a massive 23% performance impact on it, back in the 7970M days, the card would always run faster in PEG mode than SG mode on Alienware laptops but for us Clevo users we could not turn off Enduro which was annoying so we had to live with it.
Interesting to see that AMD never fixed the performance issue with switchable graphics.

If you have time Rengsey I like to ask you of a favour, want you to report the maximum power use of the card when running benchmark, and can we get a picture of crimson control panel Global Settings? Do you have access to the Global OverDrive for overclocking? The power Limit is inside there, I like you to push the card to its absolute maximum, do not worry the VRM holds up I had a spike of 160W at some point in mine and did not blow up, its got proper VRM on it since its an AMD or else they be blowing up on idling from using more power than a nuclear submarine.
You can do a +40% power limit if you do not want to push it too far or do it the time consume way of just incrementally pushing it 5% each time.
So if you have OverDrive, do an overclock and another benchmark run if you have time for it, thanks for confirming with us how it does in PEG mode.

I am just really curious if Enduro actually affects power usage/limit or not

 

Let me try your overclocked WX7100 Bios ....HOw do i overlock the card? This card has a WX7100 Bios , not RX480 , which can be overclocked.

 

Damn it man, I wish I could rep you again.

If I can source the WX7100 for 300 USD then I have my answer. I want to build a desktop Q1 2019 so I dont want to dump too much money in my Ranger right now. Just need it up and working and flesh out the mods for it so I can finally dump the m4600.

Are you able to overclock it at all or is it static? Would be neat to push it up to GTX 980 levels

Did you have any luck with the 1080 working on the internal display or take a break hitting that wall?

 

Try using MSI Afterburner, also if you want to use my vBIOS remember to backup your old one or use the backups I included under my post.
Remember to reinstall the driver, the 110W vBIOS you can try both regular Polaris drivers and the Pro WX drivers, because I added a different tag on it to make it recognisable as a rx 480, dunno if it worked since Polaris BIOS signature checker was kicking me in the ass, whether this too is an Enduro issue is beyond me but if you test we will know for sure.

 

I think am already running that 1750MHz bios ( PRO WX 7100 )

If the bios is flashed to a RX480 , I won't be able to run PEG ..

Taking a break from the 1080 lol ... I actually put it back in the ZBOX thats why i'm using the WX 7100 that i had in the ZBOX when i took out the 1080 ..

 

Hey man its all good, thanks for making the thread and putting in the time.

Besides ebay where can you source a WX 7100? I tried looking at alibaba and Aliexpress but struck out.

 

Its still a WX7100 vBIOS just a different tag on it to trick the driver into believing its a Rx 480, but I am not sure it works or not. Program might not be able to reliable force the tag into the BIOS so its still recognised as a WX7100

 

You can find WX 7100 for dirt cheap on Taobao like HERE, use Bhiner to buy it as they offer super customer service and shipping.

 

my current bios has 1750MHz. Is this the same one you want me to flash ?

eBay. I'll keep an eye out for you. Where are you located ?

 

I am located in DFW, no cash at the moment but very likely have some in a month or so. I am hoping to pick up some 2133Mhz first since those are going to become harder to find as time move along.

 

The 110W TDP vBIOS has characteristics of a desktop reference Rx 480 but its still just a WX 7100 vBIOS modified.
It has a higher core clock and the desktop overclock limit up to 2000 MHz on core and I cannot remember what the memory was although everytime I overclocked the memory the card became very unstable, again I have no idea if this is enduro issue or not.

 

Why are Eurocom selling modified bottom plate for MSI 1070 when their "modified" GPU heatsink wont FIT on the Goddamn die because of the chip to the left on the card blocking complete connection with the die??? You still need to add the chip to get enough pressure, why pay premium for heatsink when Eurocom wont even solder the copper chip onto the heatsink for you?

I paid 150 dollars for this, I can literally buy the P150SM heatsink one piece on Taobao for 5 dollars, then Eurocom they wont even refund me, in fact they wont even reply my messages??

They act like this on all the old Clevo upgrades???
What a shame, looks like the Eurocom 1070 upgrade is a sham, literally buy the one piece heatsink from SM series and the 230W PSU from taobao all for just 50 dollars in total + 20 dollar shipping.
Has anyone bought the GeCube GeForce GTX 1070 150W card? It seem to use R22 VRM same as the MSI one but whether they are quality R22 is different question. The 115W exploding green ones uses low capacity garbage LR36 and one LR22 for some reasons.

 

There is a reason why I keep saying citation of eurocom is a bad idea.

They do fine for cookie cutter experience but basically rely on us to test their garbage products and what they share on the forum is almost basically spam in my view.

 

Well lesson learned, their laptops are cheap(depending) but if this is their level of service, almost makes me NOT recommend them, took PayPal to get them to start responding to my eMail LOL....
150 dollars for a heatsink with some corners cut, makes me infuriating, I FFF do that Goddamn job myself with power tools for LESS than 150 dollars.

 

They are advertising 780w psu for the ranger when it's impossible for it to draw anywhere near that.

Basically permitted spam.

 

Those are the inductors. The VRMs are the small, low-profile 8-pin squares directly next to the inductors. It would be very, very difficult to blow up an inductor, but if these were of low quality then the rest of the circuit would suffer from spikes in current.

Apart from the vrms, you could also compare the large power capacitors between the two cards. There aren't any on the top side of this particular card, so look for them at the bottom. Should be 4 to 12 identical ones and they're pretty large, in-between the vrms and inductors in volume.

 

@t456

Pictures can be found here.
http://www.gecube.com/product.php?cid=30&id=82

I wonder where those cards can be sourced, guess ill have to check the usual spots.

 

I've only found them on taobao, and even then they seem to be rare. Also found someone selling a WX7100 for $275 ish lol

 

Damn thats a nice price! Im still fully invested with getting back off the ground at the moment.

 

Aright thank you for the correction, looks like there 9 VRM chips on the 150W card on the top and 8 other chips under I am not sure if those are VRM they have 8 pins though, only 10 capacitors.

On the GeCube 1070 115W I could identify 12 VRM chipsets on the top and 2 on the back and 12 capacitors
My WX 7100 has 18!!! VRM chips on the top and one on the back for total of 19??, 6 inductors and 15 capacitors LOL, and it has vBIOS power limit of 85W or so but if you unlock power limit it can reach 160W at times.

GeCube GeForce GTX 1070 (115W) 14 VRM - 12 Capacitors - 6 Inductors
GeCube GeForce GTX 1070 (150W) 17 VRM - 10 Capacitors - 9 Inductors

MSI GeForce GTX 1070 (150W) 20 VRM - 17 Capacitors - 6 Inductors​

Dell Radeon PRO WX 7100 (85W) 19 VRM - 15 Capacitors - 6 Inductors​

So this means that GeCube 150W 1070 "IS" better than the 115W one, but... The AMD card can handle more watts??
Do you know if there any positives in having more capacitors and inductors or is it just slapping on more cheaper parts? Sorry for nawb questions, I just not very familiar with these modules.

@Grant B Gibson You can literally buy the WX 7100 off taobao right now for 167 dollars.

 

Link? are you sure it isn't one of those with multiple item listed?