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    The hopeful of keeping MXM 3.0b alive thread!

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by King of Interns, Aug 17, 2016.

  1. Reciever

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    How did you remove the capacitor and m.2 slot?
     
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    Flux and a lot of love and heat
     
  3. TheQuentincc

    TheQuentincc Notebook Evangelist

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    For those who are interested to organize their mxm card collection, there is a 3D design I made for regular 82mm width card
    IMG_20200331_155330.jpg
    There is two tray of 5 slot each :)
     

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    RMSMajestic Notebook Consultant

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    I think you are showing off :)
    And where can I buy this?
     
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    It looks like from front to back the cards are 9600m, 1080, 680m, 5870m, 680m, 680m, 980m, 680m, 580m? Impressive collection. I'm guessing you tried to save them all at some point?
     
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  6. TheQuentincc

    TheQuentincc Notebook Evangelist

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    It's a 3D printed thing, so you need to find someone or a service that can print it for you, card are pretty loose in it but it doesn't bother me

    I don't think I have to much, compared to desktop card (atm I have nearly 10 desktop card sitting only on my desk...), in the picture there is from front to back :

    - HP Quadro P600 (from desktop workstation, might work, never tested in "know working" laptop)
    - Zotac GTX1080 (same issue as the P600 + fixed memory lane)
    - Dell GTX880M (I think it has some issue of stability, can't OC more than 50MHz, seems strange to me)
    - Dell Firepro M6100 (stock M6800 card)
    - MSI GTX780M (not working)
    - MSI GTX675MX (I believe, not working)
    - MSI GTX980M 4GB (shorted/burned pcb at the mxm, easy fix but I need to dig a little bit into the pcb to clear this)
    - Dell Quadro K4000M (stock M6700 card)
    - R9 M290X (not working)

    Not on the picture are :
    - GTX980M 8GB waiting for 980 core
    - Quadro P4000 in my M6700
    - MSI GTX570M in my GT70
    - GTX880M with memory shorted I think.

    As you can see most are not working and the few working are from upgraded/dead laptop, most Kepler will be used as test subject for swaping core, Maxwell card will be upgraded to 970 or 980 core.

    Buying dead card isn't really expensive, all the card on the picture cost me less than 200€, Zotac 1080 included (traded for a fixed 970M bought for cheap). I like to buy cheap and dead to fix it, even if I don't need it, I always say it's for hwbot but benching graphics card with an old 6 core ivy bridge doesn't make high score even with high clock/volt so that's not really worth it :/
     
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    valec06 Newbie

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    Hello,

    I have upgrade my M15x from 260m to M6100 MXM and brightness setting is not working ... is it normal ?

    Thanks
     
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    Mastermind5200 Notebook Virtuoso

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    RTX 2060 power modded to 135W (1 mOhm shunts piggy backed on top of existing 0.5mOhm shunts) in P150EM modded for direct eDP output:

    3dm11: https://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/13810880
    fs: https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/46053580
    fsu: https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/46053890

    Clevo 20 series power delivery is NOT as good as 10 series. The card is struggling on 4 of 8 core phases with the power mod (2060 pcb only has 4 phases while the 2080 has 8). A 1080 with half of its core phases would be a FET modded 980m, which I pulled up to 270W with no problem. Also the MXM power tab is completely unused on 20 series boards, which is astounding considering how much power loss the power cable has without the MXM tab doing anything. That's 8 amps going through those 4 small wires for a regular 2080.

    The plan is to try to get the parts to add the missing power phases and memory. If anyone can source any dead boards I can salvage I would appreciate it.
     
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  10. Semmy

    Semmy Notebook Consultant

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    Hello. Please tell me, can this v-card ( RTX 5000 ) be launched on the Eurocom Tornado F5, with modifications mounts and cooling ?
     
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    mr007rm Notebook Consultant

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    I have a plan.
    MSI GT70, i7-4940MX, 32GB DDR3 1600Mhz, 2TB SSD + 4TB HDD ....... Quadro P5200

    You just need a Max-Q vbios to add it. Does anyone have one? I would pay for it!

    Does anyone know this? 86.04.8B.00.7A (MSI).... is already on its way. Ebay shopping.
    So far (green 115W) I have used Eurocom 1070. He's dead, I'll switch now.

    Will I have a picture? Because there is Optimus, unlocked bios.(LVDS,eDP)
     
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    Txordi Notebook Consultant

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    I am following your developments closely. I wish you luck! Hope you can find this damn vbios

    Sent from my GM1900 using Tapatalk
     
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    What P5200 did you order? The HP card doesn't come with a vBIOS chip, but once that is installed it can run a Dell vBIOS. Rev D for the HP card also needs 2 resistors moved to be detected.
     
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    TheQuentincc Notebook Evangelist

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    I believe rev C also needs the 2 resistors swap, rev A and B should just need an eeprom and that's all.
    I hope I will not have any compatibility issue with his laptop.
     
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    mr007rm Notebook Consultant

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    There was no vbios chip on it. A friend of mine put a chip on it. So it's on it now. It has Max-P vbios on it. That's not good for me. I need Max-Q.
     
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    As I said you want the dell vBIOS. I can link it if you need it.
     
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    mr007rm Notebook Consultant

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    Thanks for the help!
    I have:
    DAXW3UB6CA0
    REV: A
    MODEL: XW3

    Next week, the postman will bring the MSI vbios.
    It currently has a (something) 160W Max-P on it. That's not good.
    The laptop turns off and restarts.
    I will write the result. :)
     
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    RMSMajestic Notebook Consultant

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    I have the Rev. C P5200 and it's working with my ASRock Deskmini (It's my only system that's able to take this card) (I only soldered EEPROM chip) ....... I'm gonna try it again later today to confirm.
     
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    mr007rm Notebook Consultant

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    I can't try. I don't have a vbios rom file.(Max-Q) 80-115W.
     
  20. Clamibot

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    I made an interesting find today. The new Asrock Deskminis use a card that is almost the same dimensions as standard MXM 3.0B.

    Asrock Quadro RTX 5000 MXM:
    [​IMG]
    [​IMG]

    Looks like a 1-2mm protrusion on the right side just like with the HP variant.
     
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    [​IMG]
    I thought this card was the HP Quadro RTX 5000. Did HP make both of these variants?
     
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    it might be a new revision
     
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    Does anyone here have a Quadro M3000M, M4000M, or M5000M?

    I really want to test and see if these GPUs work in M17xR2 and was hoping someone here might have one.
     
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    They are all not working with stock display. You will get inverted colors
     
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    Were you able to test this with M17xR2 + Quadro MX000M series cards?

    If so...were you able to try the following to fix the colors:

    1) Change refresh rate to 59Hz or 61Hz through nVidia Control Panel

    2) Try a ICC profile for the panel?


    Also were you running Windows 10 or 7?

    Thanks
     
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    Baddemichl Notebook Consultant

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    Yes, i tested all 3 cards.
    change refesh rate did not help.
    Icc profile ,i did not try, but i think that would not help. Cards don´t work with 8 bit display same as gtx 9xx.
     
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    The 980M works in HP laptop with Dreamcolor display, so it might be some weird issue with our laptop's panel and GPU.

    Thanks for confirming.

    Did you test K5000M/K5100M by any chance? If so were you able to get native fan control?
     
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    Raidriar ლ(ಠ益ಠლ)

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    8770W Dreamcolor does not use LVDS that’s why it is able to work. It uses some early implementation of edp. It seems Maxwell 2.0 cannot support 8 bit over LVDS. Why is unknown considering Kepler and earlier worked just fine
     
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    Unfortunately, something is wrong.
    The card received the MSI Quadro P5200 Max-Q Vbios. (Rev:A)
    He's not coming up. You can't see your laptop. SG mode ..... the fan is spinning.
    I have an open bios, lots of settings. In vain.
    Is this over, or is there some other magic to hardware recognition?
    What should I set up in the bios?
     

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    Can you please show me which resistors needs to be moved?
     
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    Aetina Quadro RTX 5000 MXM: https://www.aetina.com/products-detail.php?i=427

    It's standard MXM form factor and has a TDP of 110 watts. The screw holes even look like they're in the right places.

    Perfectron GTX 1660 Super MXM: https://perfectron.com/products/peripheral-module/mxm-gpu-module/sk1660s?language_content_entity=en

    Now this is one I've never seen before. It looks like standard width MXM, but is extra tall like the Zotac GTX 1080 MXM.

    Perfectron RTX 2060 Super MXM: https://perfectron.com/products/peripheral-module/mxm-gpu-module/sk2060

    Also another interesting find. The screw holes are in the right place, but the core is rotated. I wonder how that will work with current laptop heatsinks.
     
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    @Clamibot

    That 2060S core rotation is so weird. An issue MXM has is core power pins are in the bottom right corner, but power comes from the top of the card, making it difficult to efficiently get power to the core. That rotation just makes it worse.
     
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    been watching a lot of buildzoid clips lately which make me think i understand this somewhat, but not really :p
     
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    Is Clevo the only manufacturer of RTX 2000 MXM video cards? I've never seen so little stock on MXM cards as with this gen. And the price is so ridiculous that you can actually buy an entire second hand laptop with the same video card installed.
     
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    No, Clevo isn't the only manufacturer. MSI also makes their own Turing MXM cards, but in a screwed up form factor that looks nothing like they've made before, and in limited quantities.

    I think the reason there's been so little stock of 2000 series MXM cards is because the Turing series wasn't that popular. I personally don't know anyone who bought a first gen RTX card, and it makes sense they didn't sell well compared to previous generations. They offered a horrible price to performance ratio, and the performance uplift wasn't significant enough over Pascal.

    I feel that the only thing the RTX cores did was give Nvidia an excuse to raise the prices of their cards to ridiculous levels.
     
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    How I miss the good old days when you could interchange MSI/Clevo/Dell MXM video cards.

    Does that one fit on Clevo?
     
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    MSI made, they ditched MXM laptops with the GT75 9th gen, now its only GT76 with soldered GPU and socketed CPU..
     
  39. Ashtrix

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    Good find on the Aetina but it's not proper 3.0b, the screw holes look fine but the memory layout and VRM components are entirely different and looks like there are some components at the back which might need thermal pads too, it will need a new heatsink.
     
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    Many of the girls look fine, but sooner or later you'll find that sth is just not fitting.
    In this case the position of the holes is just not right.
     
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    lol inappropriate but actually funny...any news on rtx 3080 being mxm with clevo
     
  42. kothletino

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    Sooo another 1070m:
    short link

    People what do you think about power section?
     
  43. Reciever

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    That one seems to have been in the wild for a while now
     
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    Unreliable. @mirage_bg had one and it died on him.
     
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    Correct, MSI 1070 is way more reliable
     
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    triturbo Long live 16:10 and MXM-B

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    That's the Zotac and not the GeForced Quadro board (which I guess is what you are talking about). Running mine for two and a half years @90W (stock).
     
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    Yes, mine was the black quadro's P5000 PCB with GTX 1070 on it. But I've heard bad things for Zotac 1070 too, especially its VRMs quality...not your case exactly as you are using it @90W.
     
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    The zotac card has been the card of choice for AW17 R1 since you dont need any hardware mods, and while I havent been as active as I once was I havent seen any threads detailing dead cards yet.

    The MSI 1070 is indeed "better" but I have seen more failures on that front due to lack of active cooling on the VRM as they are more densely packed compared to the standard layout.
     
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    Do you, guys , think there will be some Chinese MXM-B Frankensteins with GTX 2070 on it? Like 1070?
    It would be pity if GTX 1070 is the last standard MXM...
     
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    There is the almost MXM RTX5000 from HP, shunt mod that to 120-130W and it might provide a pretty nice performance boost compared to the 1070, then again, you can TDP mod the 1070 VBIOS..
     
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