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    The hopeful of keeping MXM 3.0b alive thread!

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by King of Interns, Aug 17, 2016.

  1. SMGJohn

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    Possible it can work through SG mode? I know some Chinese people installed embedded MXM cards in laptops before but only had them work through SG mode.
     
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    That RX5700 looks very similar to the Zotac 1080 MXM, as far as that top bump. Should work fine, some placement limits aside.

    The Zotac 1080 does work A-OK in a Asrock Deskmini - Just pop a few ports out, like me! Like the Zotac, the rear in that area of concern looks mostly flat. Some Kapton tape and a slight tilt aren't a problem if you're the type to pack one of these into a Deskmini.

    Edit: I'd also say it's possible that card will work in the Alienware laptops attempting the Zotac 1080, and also the home for the Zotac 1080 - The Zotac VR Go / Magnus and it's derivatives.
     
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    derivatives? dude its not complicated like calculus
     
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    you probably shouldn't use such card in a laptop, GK110 is very very power hungry, before off buying a Tesla M6 for cheap
     
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    Might pick one up just for backburner project for when I have nothing else to do on a weekend.

    Mostly to test with random laptops that may come my way via decom at work. I think I have an m6800/7710 laptop sitting around here somewhere, 4980hq and GK110 would be interesting if it doesnt immediately kill the MXM slot lol, otherwise I can just throw it in one of my desktops via riser for plex decoding or something.
     
  9. DaMafiaGamer

    DaMafiaGamer Switching laptops forever!

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    You’d be surprised to know that I ran your 200w gtx 1080 inside a precision 7720 with no issues lol. Ran a furmark test, gpu was pulling the full 200w, not sure how the 240w psu was handling it. I gotta say dell precision’s are built to last :D
     
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    Then I may need to liberate the 7710 sitting in the office lol, no rush for anything just more an interesting project to mess with in the event I get bored
     
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    Wooow, that K40 is a real monster sized card :eek:
     
  13. RMSMajestic

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    There are two aspects where you shouldn't push anything to the limit
    1. Sudden spikes in power, which is pretty damn scary for GPUs nowadays (power density exceeds a nuclear reactor/ getting close to rocket exhausts at peak)
    2. Continuous loads. Which you will notice when you do something like mining/ deep learning. I have no doubt if you mining on that 1080 it will eventually kill your 7720 or 1080 or both
     
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    1. Not sure what this means in a practical sense, launching a game is a spike in power, 3d acceleration is a power spike.
    2. Really should be using a continuous load to determine stability anyways. Back in the day 24 hours was considered the minimum for any meaningful test of a particular tune or overclock. All continuous loads are not equal either.

    Feels like an omission of variables for a given scenario
     
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    1. I mean the sudden spike when you are running games. On recent GPUs that sudden power spike can easily twice as much as the normal TDP. (An interesting read if you can find translation for Chinese: https://www.fcpowerup.com/gpu-transient-spike-shutdown-issue/)
    2. That 24 hour is also questionable. I have a RX 588 that was runnign perfectly stable for half a year for 24*7 then suddenly died (one or more of the vRAM chip became unstable). My R9 nano also shrinked after being tested stable undervolt (was stressed for at least 24 hours before vBIOS mod). OFC if you are challenging for some benchmarks that's a different story.
     
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    Come across this on ebay... it looks like a p5000 pcb with a 5200 core slapped on it. Also it has already a vbios on it.
    Opinions?
     
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    I used such a card in an MSI GT70 for half a year. It was max-p. I took the clocks back.
     
  19. ssj92

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    Very interesting...I wonder how it'd perform in M18xR2 @UltraGSM @MrMogwai @Maxware79

    On a side note, anyone gotten a quote for RTX 5000 MXM 3.0b from PNY?
     
  20. yarema

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    Its time to drop a bomb. Full blown rtx 2080 in Alienware 18 Viking

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    Yes. From MSI
     
  23. Tenoroon

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    How the hell did the guy even get one of those, I've yet to come across any, even on Aliexpress. The only idea I would have is he either had a laptop with the 2080 or he works in some repair shop or something.
     
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    This is freaking awesome! Way to go keeping a laptop from 2013 kicking ass even today!

    I assume you needed a custom heatsink to cool that RTX 2080. How is the performance? Are you able to get the full performance from the card? I'd think that would be easier to do with this card since it has a supplementary power connector.
     
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  26. TheQuentincc

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    if think using an HP RTX5000 would be easier
     
  27. expresstyle

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    But same problem as GTX 1080, how to get an heatsink that can works with that
     
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    Nice, now I can have something to upgrade to without swapping my heatsink

    How much did that 2080 cost anyway?
     
  29. yarema

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    Around 1200 bucks. Heatsink from gt83vr ,modified
     
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    They should just give it away for free
     
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    RTX 3000 series will be just a dream
     
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  32. yarema

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    I think quadro ampere rtx will be fittable to aw18
     
  33. SMGJohn

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    Anyone know why GTX 1070 with 1BA1 vBIOS refuses to work in Alienware M17x R4?? eDP mode by the way, works in LVDS though.
     
  34. TheQuentincc

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    graphics still is SG or in dedicaced ? it's UEFI only also
     
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    Hi everyone
    i got questions:
    - is there any MXM 3.0B (size) card faster than GTX1060 with SLI (or Crossfire) connector ?

    -what is most compatible laptop for MXM 3.0 cards from different sources ?
    and same question but for any device (laptop, PC motherboard, PCIe adapter card) what will run most MXM card's ?

    i read long time ago that Alienware M15x was really good for working with different cards
     
  36. Tenoroon

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    The 1060 does NOT support SLI or crossfire, only the 1070 and 1080 support SLI.

    The M17X R4's and the 17 R1's are both really good for supporting most cards. However, if you plan to buy a laptop with the sole purpose of upgrading the CPU and sticking in a newer MXM GPU, you will basically be wasting your money as its basically cheaper to buy a new laptop as the CPU will be a lot stronger, and the 10 series of Nvidia cards are starting to get weaker in comparison to the newer laptop GPU's.
     
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    thanks for your fast response
    and thanks for info about M17X R4's and the 17 R1

    but I'm afraid you did not understand my question:
    do you know any MXM 3.0B size card with higher performance than gtx1060 which have SLI/Crossfire connector on pcb

    and second question is about device to run tests, (from used market)

    and don't worry about my buying choices
    (i already got 2 gpu slots laptop)
     
  38. Tenoroon

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    Ohhhh alright.

    Well, it depends on your laptop, if you have a Clevo laptop, all of the Clevo 1070's and 1080's have an SLI connector. If you have an MSI laptop, some of the MSI 1070's have the SLI connector while all of the 1080's should have one. If you have an Alienware 18 or something like that, there are no MXM 3.0B size cards with an SLI connector, and besides, the Alienware 18 does not support SLI with the 10 series cards.

    Why wouldn't you be able to test the cards in your current laptop?
     
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    The MSI GTX 1070 MXM card has an SLI connector.
     
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    Only some of them do. It's weird, but most of the Revision 1.0's have them, while most of the Revision 1.2's don't have them.
     
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    thanks

    i got Clevo
    but the problem with Clevo cards is that they are much bigger size



    "Alienware 18 does not support SLI with the 10 series cards." but why? (EDp ?)
     
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    will adapter like this (on right side)
    run most MXM cards (old and new form factor)
    and what laptop can work with most of them (Clevo, MSI, Dell/Alien. HP, Aetina, Lenovo, Apple,
    Zotac, Gigabyte etc)

    https://eurocom.com/ec/data/groups/312.jpg
    [​IMG]
     
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  44. Tenoroon

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    This should work, but they are very, very expensive.
     
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    yes, but does anybody on forum got one or tested one?
    (or maybe similar from aliexpres, taboao etc)
     
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    No, because they look to be half baked and no real precedent that they will function as desired to being with, as well as you have to fab your own heatsink
     
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    The Alienware 18 cannot do SLI with any of the Pascal cards since it doesn't have an eDP output. Pascal requires an eDP output if you want the dGPU to directly output to the screen, and one of the two cards in an SLI configuration outputs directly to the internal screen.

    If the Alienware 18 had a 120 Hz eDP screen option, I would've gotten the 18 over the 17. I love big laptops. In this case, bigger really is better (to a point of course). :D
     
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    That's right even though there's an hack called AutoSli to enable Sli in anycase no matters what, but doesn't works with newer drivers last one maybe was 44X.XX
    Who knows if it can starts games combined with 2gtxs and intel hd, but i saw an screenshot when it was showing sli enabled in SG.
    With that u can combine even differents cards without bridge of course latency will be the problem in dx11, but games that supportED dx12 mgpu will work flawless
     
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    I wonder if I could mod the 7520 to accept a 1060 lol
     
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