UPDATED - The Mobile Graphics Card Info Page - Most GPU Qs answered

Yup, 7950GTX FTW! I'd be happy with just a 7900GS, but there for I don't like 17" screens

 

How much of a difference is there between these two graphics cards?

 

x2...........

 

Are you saying it's twice as powerful?

 

In terms of raw power, it's at least twice as good. It has something like 7 times the shading power, twice the TMU's and four times the ROP's. However the memory bandwith is very similar between the two cards, both will be limited to WXGA or XGA in most games.

 

ive read on the forums multiple times that the nvidia 8600gt is better thaqn the 7600
but then i found this article.Am i confused or are they just wrong
http://legionhardware.com/document.php?id=637

 

1) That's desktops
2) Drivers are better now
3) 8600GTS is now cheaper
4) That's desktops
5) go 7600GT is only found in 17" laptops.

 

so the laptop version of 8600gt is better

 

yes, very much so.

 

what desktop gpu would it be comparable to

 

I meant that the laptop version is much better than th go7600. It is comparable with 8600GT (right?) but the go7600 is slower than a 7600GS.

 

im asking that which desktop gpu has the same preformance as the 8600gt[for notebooks]

 

I know. I answered what I thought was the one (8600 GT).

 

so the desktop and notebook 8600gt are about ths same?

 

No, the notebook 8600GT is considerably slower than the desktop 8600GT, especially if you're talking about the DDR2 version.

 

My bro's dv6000t has a GeForce Go 7400 and gets 51 fps in the stress test in CS:S at the following settings: 1280x800 with all settings at max, without AA/AF and HDR.

How much better would the 8400M GS get at those settings?

 

Chaz, you should add HD2600 to the list. And separate both it and 8600M GT into DDR2 and GDDR3 versions, as they have fairly different performance. THe list is:
HD2600 DDR2
8600M GT DDR2
HD2600 GDDR3
8600M GT GDDR3

 

Only around 10 more

2.2ghz, 8400gs gets me around 60fps at those settings

 

Done, thanks.

 

edited see new post

 

^^ummm this is a "notebook" list

 

The correct ones i meant

Are this not on the list?
NVIDIA Quadro FX 3500M
NVIDIA Quadro FX 2500M
NVIDIA Quadro FX 1600M
NVIDIA Quadro FX 1500M

http://www.nvidia.es/page/quadrofx_family.html

and Geforce 8800 :
http://www.noticias-de.com/portatiles-con-grafica-nvidia-geforce-8800

Geforce 8800 for notebook not on the list?

 

8800's not out yet. Quadro's are in the professional GPU list.

 

I'm not a gamer and was on a budget when I bought my laptop, but it's apparent my video card isn't up to much. Here's my results for one of the games.

Video Card
Minimum: 3D hardware accelerator card required - 100% DirectX(R) 9.0c-compliant 64 MB video card and drivers (NVIDIA GeForce4 Ti+ / ATI Radeon 8500+)
You Have: Mobile Intel(R) 945GM Express Chipset Family (Intel(R) Calistoga Graphics Controller)

FAIL: Sorry, your video card does not meet this minimum requirement.

Video Card Features - Minimum attributes of your Video Card

Video RAM: Required - 64 MB , You have - 224.0 MB
Video Card 3D Acceleration: Required - Yes , You have - Yes
Video HW Transform & Lighting: Required - Yes , You have - No
Vertex Shader Ver.: Required - 1.1 , You have - 0.0
Pixel Shader Ver.: Required - 1.3 , You have - 2.0

 

Dude, that's a Geforce 4, the vintage Pinto of GPUs.

 

Nooo, That's a GMA 950. Mobile Intel 945GM Express Chipset Family uses GMA 950 as the IGP.

 

One of the biggest problems with the Intel IGPs is the lack of Hardware Transform & Lighting. The X3100 is the first Intel IGP to have hardware T&L support but only on beta drivers.

Sorry, but anything that requires HW T&L will never work on a GMA IGP.

 

Ok,thanks
where is the Pro GPU list link ?

 

It's linked in the sticky.

 

What games will the 8600GT run well? Any current games like Crysis or the Orange Box?

 

The 8600M-GT will run all currently available games. The most demanding ones (like Crysis) will have to be run at 1024x768 or 1280x800 with mostly medium settings. Most games however will run fine at high settings and 1440x900 or even max settings at 1280x or 1024x.

 

Hey, I am deciding upon getting the Dell XPS M1210 or the Dell XPS M1330. Now the graphics card on both are different. The Geforce Go 7400(256 mb) video card is in the XPS M1210 and has 64mb of dedicated memory, and the rest is shared. The Geforce 8400M GS (128 mb) video card is in the XPS M1330 , which is the laptop that replaced the XPS M1210. The Geforce 8400M GS has ( as I've been told) 128 MB dedicated and that I guess it can share up to 128 MB of RAM on top of that. I also heard in a review that the Geforce 8400M GS is graphics card, that only has medium performance, Like for example it has LOW FPS on games, and that it can run OK on medium settings on FEAR. Now , I have a buddy with a Dell XPS M1210, and he can run fear with pretty high settings. Now why would the M1210's video card woop the M1330's video cards ass....Even though the specs on it lean towards the Geforce 8400M GS being the better card? And what one would you suggest....Just a little note im going to be doing Unigraphics designing , and extreme gaming.....Also If anybody has any ultraportable Laptops they know of, name them off.....Needing atleast 2.0GHZ core 2 duo, atleast 2 Gigs of RAM, and being at the most 13" big. Also needs to have good graphics card for gaming, on such a game like crysis...Thanks much ~butts

 

The 7400 does not 'woop the m1330's video cards ass'
'Extreme gaming' and 'at the most 13"' doesn't go together.
No laptop 13" or less will have a good graphics card for Crysis.
That being said, get the m1330 anyway I love mine.
And afaik the 8400 is almost 2x faster than the 7400? Anyone?

Just know that you won't be doing any extreme gaming, but it won't necessarily be 'LOW FPS'
What games do you play?

 

Depends on what you look at, but you can validly say that the 8400m GS is almost 2 times faster than the Go 7400.

Update drivers, install patches, tweak vista and everything that can be played on a 7400 can be played faster with the 8400.

 

Well, Mostly gonna use for graphics design, and it should work PERFECT for that. But I play games like Guildwars, Call of duty2, Hoping to play crysis, Unreal tournament games, Ya know games like that. Now im curious, would it be able to handle Bioshock?.....And do you mind if I PM you any questions that might come up in the future darkcond0 about the m1330....seeing as you have one
Also my buddy has the M1210 and thats supposed to hande crysis well....But whatever, not a big issue


Also Lithus I really hope your not using vista. Plus I think the M1330 will be right for me. Im gonna be using linux, and with some effort I should be able to get everything to work, but still those questions above need some answers before my decision becomes final.
Thanks ~Butts

 

I am using Vista, and your buddy is delusional if he thinks he can play Crysis well on a M1210.

 

Thanks for all the work, i will send lots of newbie's to this post i'm sure

I can't find anything in your article to disagree with. I was a little surprised with how you rated my 8400GT (in my case with 128Mb GDDR3), i considered it to be a more a midrange card myself. But then again, i was really surprised with how well it handled itself with the occasional games i play. Quake4, GTA SA, GTR2 all play well an the highest settings with a resolution of 1280x800 or closest one selectable to that. I only get some hick-ups with the replays of GTR2 sometimes when there's to much going on at once. I've justed downloaded Fraps so i can finally get some frame rates too now, thanks for the tip!

 

The 8400M-GT really is a solid card - it's not as powerful as an 8600 but is definitely powerful enough for playing most newer games at decent frames. My friend has one that plays FEAR Combat beautifully.

Thanks for the compliment.

 

Yes, my m1330 with 8400m GS handles Bioshock just fine at 800x600 medium settings. Just be sure you get at least the 163.44 driver
Guild Wars definitely is no problem at max settings, Crysis i'm satisfied with since I wasn't expecting so much. I'm running it on the lowest res, low-med settings with maybe 20 fps without the new drivers. I'm actually using 156.66
UT2k4 runs very well on max settings, UT3 runs well 800x600 medium settings, same with CoD2. By runs well, I mean a playable and decently smooth fps. Don't expect a constant 60+. I do get 60+ fps on CS:Source though.
In short, it will run all the games you listed decently, though Crysis is iffy
PM me anytime

 

sorry im not familiar with either card but is there a significant improvement in 7950 over the 7800? thanks.

 

Considering the 7800 was the beginning of the 7000 series high end and the 7950 was the culmination of the 7000 series high end...yes, there's a very significant improvement between the two.

 

about 25-53% in overall performance difference.

the 7900 series ran a bit cooler as well.

 

Hello, I've noticed that the NVIDIA GeForce 7150 isn't on the list. Could someone tell me where this card ranks and if I'll be able to play Call of Duty 4 and The Orange Box on it?

 

The 7950 does provide a nice boost over the 7800 but if you're asking about whether it is worth it to upgrade, no it's not. A 7950 carries a ~$500 pricetag, and that money is better put towards a new laptop.

It's not on the list because I don't have benchmarks for it. It will not provide a satisfactory gaming experience . . . low settings and resolution at best for newer games. Crysis, Bioshock - forget it. Don't know about CoD 4 but I think it will run because it isn't very demanding.

 

CoD4 is much more demanding than CoD2, which if I remember correctly, only ran smooth in dx7 mode on a 6150.

 

How much of a difference is there?

 

Anywhere from 20 to 40% . Roughly.

 

I am seeing a lot of game requiring at least the ati x700 vid card.. my new laptop is coming with the x2300hd.. is the 2300 equivalent to or better than the x700?? thanks..

 

Based on 3dmark05/06 scores the 2300 is 33% slower and 5% faster. So I'd pick the x700, since DX10 (if available on x2300) is a useless point.

 

I added the following into the guide today:

Nvidia GeForce 8600M-GT SLI
Nvidia GeForce 8700M-GT SLI
Nvidia GeForce Go7950GTX SLI
Nvidia GeForce 8800M-GTX
Nvidia GeForce 8800M-GTX SLI

I benchmarked dual 8600M-GT SLI and confirmed they are faster than a single Go7950GTX, at least in 3DMark06. I'll be doing some more game testing at a later date.