UPDATED - The Mobile Graphics Card Info Page - Most GPU Qs answered

The X2300 is essentially the a rebranded x1400 part, which is the update to the x600. In older games, the x700 will have more raw power, but because of the DX9.0c support (x2300 does NOT support DX10), the x2300 is the better choice for any newer gaming. On average the two cards will perform relatively equally.

Yeah, for games that natively support SLI the 2x8600M-GT setup is around 10% faster than the 8700M-GT, so that would place it right around the Go7950GTX. I've never seen a head to head comparison of the SLI 8600M and 7950GTX setups though.

Edit: After reviewing the Toshiba scores again, it seems the SLI 8600M-GT should probably be above cards like the 8700M-GT, X1800XT, and Go7800GTX, but slightly below a Go7900/50GTX, imho.

 

I was just about to move the 8600M-GT SLI below the Go7950GTX/Go7900GTX - they make a 1-2 punch combo for sure, but not enough to overtake those two cards. The 3DMark06 score is higher by a lot but the gaming benchmarks just don't measure up.

 

Do not cross post on the forums. Your other post has been deleted.

And please read the stickies before you post, thanks . . .

 

Hey, would the Quadro FX570m be considered a performance card (or higher)..after all, it is essentially a professional 8600M-GT GDDR3.

 

It would be considered identical to the 8600M-GT GDDR3 for gaming purposes, yes.

 

i have an ati x 1250 integrated onto my laptop, i considered upgrading it but i'm not sure. Is it worth keeping, to play recent games?

 

Please read the stickies, you cannot upgrade your card. If you're considering buying a new laptop to get a better graphics card, then please post in the What Notebook Should I Buy section.

 

Can anyone tell me where the 8400M G would fall? I don't see it in the list (just the GS and GT)

 

It would be at the top of the low end video cards, and on the Big Chart it would be between an x1400 and an x1450.

(You may want to add that one Chaz, I didn't realize it wasn't there yet).

 

Can you need to add a 6800 Ultra please ?

 

I think it might of used to have been on the chart, but it's a bit old now. That generation of cards was removed so that the charts wouldn't be too large.

I'd say the 6800 Ultra would be around a 7600GT or an 8400M-GT, depending on the usage.

 

Which is better to run high intensive games? even though one is direct x10 and the other is 9. say for example im running a direct x9 game, which would do better assuming they both have 512mb ram? thanks in advance

 

Those two cards are very close. Which particular 8600M-GS laptop are you looking at? (As there are different versions of the card.)

 

Simple question: Which one is the better for games?

 

The Radeon would be comparable to an 8700m GT.

 

Then which of these two laptop is better:

- Core 2 Duo T7250 2x2.0 Ghz
- 2048MB DDR2
- 160GB SATA
- 512MB NVIDIA 8600GT
or
- Core 2 Duo T5450 2x1.66 Ghz
- 2048MB DDR2
- 160GB SATA
- 256MB ATI 2600XT

 

The second one

But are you sure it's not a 2600 non-XT? What's the notebook model

the 8600gt and radeon 2600 are similar. The XT would blow it out

 

Its the C7010. Look at this site (in german): http://www.one.de/shop/one-notebooks-c-131.html?osCsid=006fc

But wouldnt the lower cpu of the c7010 balance it out with higher c6525?

 

I would confirm the specs with them, but if it's really an HD2600XT, then it will be better than the 8600M-GT hands down. The CPU won't make much of a difference at all in gaming performance, and certainly not enough to balance out the GPU difference.

 

I'm getting a notebook in a day or two and I just had one question.

Should I go with a 7950gtx 512mb OR an 8700m gt 512mb?

I know the 7950gtx is the faster card, but it's on backorder and there is a possibility that I might not be able to get it. Will there be enough of a difference in performance that I should actually wait to see if I can actually get it? Or should I just go with the 8700 which is already available?

I'm not expecting to play Crysis or anything, but I would like to play UT3 and a few games here and there.

thanks

 

The 7950GTX if you want performance, or the 8700 Gt is you want better battery life and still some good portion of performance.
However,I`d recommennd getting the 8800M GTX, either in the Alienware m15x or the Sager 5792.
For UT3 and so, even the 8600GT should be enough.

 

Hey,

Can anyone tell me if the Intel® Integrated Graphics Media Accelerator X3100 that comes with the Dell Vostro systems is good enough to run Vista? The system would be a core2duo 1.4 with 2GB ram.

I won't be really using it to play crazy games, just don't want the system to have problems running vista with that card.

 

From what I've read, yes it can, but I'd get a someone who as actually tried it to confirm that.

 

That card will run vista aero without a hitch.

Heck, the GMA 945 runs vista pretty decent...

A friend of mine plays CS:S on his tablet with that card...runs great. You shouldn't have problems running vista aero.

 

The GMA965 runs Vista Aero without problem so X3100 will be able to do it as well.

 

Those are the same thing.....

 

What do you people think Aero is? It's about as hard to render as a game of chess.

 

I have an alienware m9750 with the nvidia 7950 gtx sli graphics cards. I am now upgrading to the 8700m sli configuration. You have listed that the 7950 gtx has better performance than the 8700 sli configuration. I am a little confused as to how the upgrade has worse performance than the 7950 gtx sli. Can you distinguish for me the plus's and minus's of each configuration.

Area-51® m9750

Video/Graphics Card: Dual 512MB NVidia® GeForce™ Go 8700M GT- SLI Enabled
Processor: Intel® Core™ 2 Duo Processor T7600 2.33GHz 4MB Cache 667MHz FSB
Memory: 4GB Dual Channel DDR2 SO-DIMM at 667MHz - 2 x 2048MB
Operating System: Genuine Windows® XP Media Center Edition 2005
Tuners and Remotes: With USB Mini Media Center Remote Control and Single NTSC TV Tuner
System Drive: Extreme Performance (RAID 0) - 400GB (200GB x 2) Serial ATA 1.5Gb/s 7,200 RPM w/ NCQ & 16MB Cache
Primary CD ROM/DVD ROM: Dual Layer Blu-Ray/DVD±R/W/CD-RW Burner
Wireless Network Card: Internal Intel® Wireless 4965 a/b/g/Draft-N Mini-Card

 

The GO 7950 GTX is much faster than the 8700m GT. The only thing that the 8700m has over the 7950 is dx10 capabilities, which right now doesn't offer much.

 

You aren't upgrading but DOWNgrading...

 

So should I cancel my order? How does the 8800m GT compare?

 

It's on the list.

 

You wouldn't be upgrading much, but you wouldn't be downgrading either. In games that have SLI support, 8700M-GT SLI is approximately equivalent to Go7950GTX SLI, and even better at <=WSXGA+ in very shader intensive games.

And the 8800M-GTX would be an excellent upgrade, though it most likely won't be offered in your notebook.

 

which performs better for heavy gaming?

 

2600hd is better

 

2600. IIRC it has DDR 3 memory, and an 8600 GS is like an underclocked 8600 GT.

 

Unless the HD2600 is 512MB then it is GDDR2.

But the HD2600 definately is better for heavy gaming. Check my posts, Ive put some results I've had in there.

 

but also hotter running. And it isn't *THAT* much faster.

 

the 2600hd is comparable to the 8600gt so the 8600gs would be far behind

 

If you're referring that the HD2600 runs hotter, I can assure you it doesn't. Mine doesn't even hit 60C under OC and full load.

 

The HD2600 is significantly more powerful than the 8600M-GS, as it's comparable to the 8600M-GT.

 

Hi to all,
I know I am a strageness between you all, as I do not play games nor intend to do it...
I am just trying to configure a good Dell notebook which can give me now and for 3-4 years good performances without becoming obsolete too fast.
I am quite sure that now i should not need more than the Intel 3100, or maximum the Quadro 135M (is it better than the Intel? as this Intel is so greatly apreciated...). But it is possible that in the future i will do some video edit, some simple 3d.
I will use Xp Pro at least untill I can.
I can choose between a Precision M4300 with a Quadro FX360M for 1139 euro (and with True life=glossy), or a Latitude D830 with a Quadro 140M (and not glossy) for 1085 euro. Is not much less, but also I do not see in what the FX is superior to the other one, if both has got 256mb dedicated and 256 shared.
Anyway, I am open to suggestion, as i could save a few money by chooosing a 135M or even a Intel 3100... But I want to be shure that I will not have to complaint if i will start to do some simple graphic, and I want the notebook to last for 3 years as a good notebook. If not I would have bought something cheaper, with a similar configuration, but less resistent, and changed it in one or two years.
Let me know!

 

Chaz, you might want to remove the following from the front page, as it doesn't really apply any longer:

 

Extremely useful guide as far as comparing the video cards. I spent a good 6-8hours today researching everything to get as up to date as I could in a short time on laptop hardware.. that section helped a LOT. Now I know exactly what I'm looking for.. but finding it for a good price is another story.

 

hey does anyone know what the latest and best working drivers are for the 8600m gt on vista 32 bit?

im not to good with drivers....
thanks

 

Same question with XP 32bits ^^

 

I'm looking at 2 different ASUS laptops. The main difference for me will end up being the graphics card. Which would you recommend going with?

ASUS A8JS
Intel Core 2 Duo T7200 2.0Ghz
14" WXGA+
1GB DDR2 667Mhz
120GB 5400RPM HD
512MB GeForce Go 7700
$1,149.99

ASUS F8SA
Intel Core 2 Duo T7500 2.2Ghz
14" WXGA
1GB (unknown speed?)
160GB 5400RPM HD
512MB Radeon HD 2600
$1,199.99

Any advice would be appreciated!

 

For all out performance the F8SA will be better, the HD2600 benches higher than the go 7700 and will handle modern shaders better, the SA also has a faster cpu with faster FSB and a larger hard disk, all certainly worth $50.

 

This guide is for discussion of graphics cards; we have a dedicated thread for driver updates, linked right in the sticky . . .
http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=64910
You should do some searching first, there are a few threads on 8600/Nvidia drivers.

 

I think you should change the 17" one to Nvidia Geforce 8800M GTX (512MB) since it's out now =] I guess you could do the same for the 15.4" but I dont really think the Alienware m15x counts since it's so huge