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    UPDATED - The Mobile Graphics Card Info Page - Most GPU Qs answered

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by Charles P. Jefferies, Feb 4, 2006.

  1. tianxia

    tianxia kitty!!!

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    14'' asus f8sv has 128bit one but with ddr2 memory ;)
     
  2. r6mile

    r6mile Notebook Enthusiast

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    Well actually I'm undecided between XPS1330 or XPS1530, which is why I'm asking. My question is general and concerning both models.
     
  3. eleron911

    eleron911 HighSpeedFreak

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    14' ain`t 13' you know :p

    Complete the FAQ .
    If you won't game that much, the 1330 is better.
    IF you want to game even todays titles, the 1530 is your choice.
     
  4. Toryglen-boy

    Toryglen-boy Notebook Consultant

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    howdy

    i have a HP DV9600 thing, with a C2Duo T5600 @1.83Ghz and GeForce7600, and while for gamein' its not bad, i am looking at a Toshiba with a C2Duo T7800 @2.6Ghz and an ATi2600 Gfx setup.

    I have been looking online for banchmarks and comparisons etc, but have come up with very conflicting information ... so i thought i would ask here!!

    can anyone tell me the performance difference between

    The Go7600 and the ATi2600 and ..
    in general of the two laptops, taking both CPU and Gfx into account?


    thanks muchly
     
  5. Razor2

    Razor2 Notebook Deity

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    The Toshiba will be much more powerful in games that require fast CPUs, like RTS games, and somewhat more powerful in games requiring fast graphics cards.
     
  6. tianxia

    tianxia kitty!!!

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    what ever you read is very wrong.
    everyone here will tell you that the toshiba sports a faster cpu AND gfx card.
     
  7. CruXii

    CruXii Notebook Guru

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    The ATI card is faster, but it's only one generation ahead. I don't really think it would be worth the upgrade.
     
  8. WileyCoyote

    WileyCoyote Notebook Evangelist

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    yeh right now you should be shooting for laptops with hd3850 or 8800gts at least if your going to game. Otherwise wait for the AMD puma lines to come out with laptops with external GFX.
     
  9. WILLY S

    WILLY S I was saying boo-urns

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    It's the ATI equivilant of the 8600m GT. It would show a noticable improvement in newer more shader intensive games.
     
  10. TheGreatGrapeApe

    TheGreatGrapeApe Notebook Evangelist

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    Exactly, expect the HD2600 to be a more noticeable boost in games like Oblivion, Crysis and CoH which are more shader intensive.

    Also you get nice access ot additional features like FP16HDR+MSAA.

    The value of that benefit depends on the personal preferences of the user IMO.
     
  11. masterchef341

    masterchef341 The guy from The Notebook

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    yeah you won't be able to run HDR + MSAA in new games just because of the performance penalty. but in older games its definitely a possibility.
     
  12. eleron911

    eleron911 HighSpeedFreak

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    How much are you willing to spend? there are always alternatives...
     
  13. TheGreatGrapeApe

    TheGreatGrapeApe Notebook Evangelist

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    It's fine using HDR+MSAA in Oblivion and with only a mild performance drop, my laptop does better than the X1600XT I played it on a year ago, but it's somewhat of a moot point as there is no option with the GF7600GT, which actually the only time it has trouble against the X1600 series is these shader intensive games.
     
  14. Toryglen-boy

    Toryglen-boy Notebook Consultant

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    about AU$2,000


    :)
     
  15. ronkotus

    ronkotus Notebook Evangelist

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    eleron911 HighSpeedFreak

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    Well then fill the FAQ and mention you're Australian...
     
  17. Petrov

    Petrov Notebook Deity

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    LG P300 has 8600 GT and is 13.3", although external DVD.

    Petrov.
     
  18. CedricFP

    CedricFP Notebook Evangelist

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    It seems at the moment, the best GPU one can get in a 13" laptop is the 8400m GS.

    I saw flashes of a laptop with an 8600m but all links lead me to dead ends.

    Does anybody know if there are more powerful 13 inch laptops, and further, whether new gen hardware from either Ati or Nvidia will allow for fairly powerful 13"?

    As it stands, I see the 8400m GS as slightly less powerful than a desktop 6600GT which is pretty horrid.

    The 8600m GT seems to be quite a good card, comparable to the 6800GT but still... it leaves a lot to be desired in a notebook.
     
  19. tianxia

    tianxia kitty!!!

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    LG p300, 13.3'' with a 8600m gs.
    benq has a 13.3'' model with a 8600m gt but a low voltage cpu.
     
  20. tianxia

    tianxia kitty!!!

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    Benq's model is called joybook x31
     
  21. flipfire

    flipfire Moderately Boss

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    asus has a 13" w/ a 8600 i believe
     
  22. Lite

    Lite Notebook Deity

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    There probably is gonna be 13" laptops with 3650m's but ive yet to see any so far.
     
  23. fabarati

    fabarati Frorum Obfuscator

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    LG P300 has a 128 bit 8600m GS. Asus F9 is a 12" with a 128bit 8400m G. The 14" models with 8600m GT use a 128 bit bus.

    The P300 uses a 8600m GS
     
  24. j3ff86

    j3ff86 Notebook Enthusiast

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    Which card is faster for gaming (TF2 specifically)? I have heard people say that given two 8600's, one with gdd3 and the other 2, the 3 will be faster, but others say the only thing that matters is clock speed. Would this mean the 2600 is faster?
     
  25. WileyCoyote

    WileyCoyote Notebook Evangelist

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    ddr3 is significantly faster than ddr2, you can measure this by a 5-10 fps gap, which is pretty huge.
     
  26. X2P

    X2P COOLING | NBR Super Mod

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    most people say 10% tops
     
  27. brainer

    brainer Notebook Virtuoso

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    get the GDDR3 ftw
     
  28. geniusO2

    geniusO2 Notebook Guru

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    ;)


    1 - U CAN'T ( EVER ) COMPARE 8600M GS WITH 9500M GS
    9500M GS DDR2 = 475/950 = 8600M GT DDR3

    I DUNOO REALLY WHY DID nVIDIA CHANGED THE CARD NAME , LOL ... i mean it's the same clock speeds ...?? ! :confused:
     
  29. Ackeron

    Ackeron Notebook Deity NBR Reviewer

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    Agreed :cool:
     
  30. geniusO2

    geniusO2 Notebook Guru

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  31. Matt is Pro

    Matt is Pro I'm a PC, so?

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    GDDR3 will be the new standard once prices come down a bit more. It's much more effiecient and offers better performance.
     
  32. JCMS

    JCMS Notebook Prophet

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    Heh, the 9500M GS DDR2 is still better than the Radeon 2600 with GDDR3, actually.
     
  33. smileysil

    smileysil Notebook Enthusiast

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    Hey im gettin a dell xps m1530 wid nvidia 8600m gt 256mb gddr3 is it better than
    the gddr2 version which has 512mb of vram.
     
  34. ROBO HUNTER

    ROBO HUNTER Notebook Consultant

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    Get the GDDR3 256mb version
     
  35. smileysil

    smileysil Notebook Enthusiast

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    ya i hav already ordered gddr3 but isn't 512mb better(althoug gddr2). Just enquiring.
     
  36. ROBO HUNTER

    ROBO HUNTER Notebook Consultant

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    The faster gddr3 is much more important at the moment.
     
  37. smileysil

    smileysil Notebook Enthusiast

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    Yippeeeee then thx Robo hunter seems that i chose the better card
     
  38. NULL

    NULL Notebook Consultant

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    yes, good call :cool:
     
  39. ROBO HUNTER

    ROBO HUNTER Notebook Consultant

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    A wise choice my friend!
     
  40. alphanash

    alphanash Notebook Guru

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  41. Xirurg

    Xirurg ORLY???

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    nope,cos 8600gt cant even fully use that 512mb.
     
  42. smileysil

    smileysil Notebook Enthusiast

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    ok thx buddy that helps but i'm surprised 2 know that gddr3 consumes less power and is cooler and yet it's faster. Modern tech i tell u!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
  43. tianxia

    tianxia kitty!!!

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    gddr2 has been phased out now.
    gddr3/gddr4/gddr5 are for high end/mainstream cards
    ddr2 for budget cards.
     
  44. iPostNak3d

    iPostNak3d Notebook Enthusiast

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    hello peeps :)

    i was hoping i could ask you again for suggestions on which video card i should go with, the INTEL x3100 or the NVIDIA GeForce 8400M GS 256MB?

    i will MAINLY use the laptop for GRAPHIC DESIGN/WEB DEVELOPMENT stuff, I will be using programs like; Photoshop, Illustrator, InDesing, Dreamweaver and Flash.[/COLOR]

    the VIDIA GeForce 8400M GS 256mb is ONLY $84 extra dollars more... is it worth it?

    will the NVIDIA GeForce 8400M GS 256MB be able to handle some older games like; Far Cry, Fear, Hitman, Halo 2, Half Life, etc.?

    i am sure this has been asked here many times... but please bare with me... i don't have a computer right now and it is being really difficult for me to do all the research i need in the 20 mins of computer usage that i am allowed here at the my small local library in my town.

    i thank you very much for your input.
     
  45. ROBO HUNTER

    ROBO HUNTER Notebook Consultant

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  46. iPostNak3d

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    thank you ROBO for the repply. yes i did ask on that forum... but i thought i would concentrate and ask about the video card separate...

    so you think that the extra $84 dollars is WORTH for the NVIDIA GeForce 8400M GS 256mb?

    will older games work ok with this video card?
     
  47. ROBO HUNTER

    ROBO HUNTER Notebook Consultant

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    If you are going to play games, then go for the 8400M GS 256mb it should be fine for older games, but it`s a low powered dedicated card, but it`s a lot more powerful than the x3100.

    I would go for the 8400M GS 256mb! if they are your only options.
     
  48. SauronMOS

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    The GeForce will also be much better for video playback, if you like to watch DVDs or anything at all.
     
  49. icram

    icram Notebook Guru

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    Very good guide! Thanks for it!

    I have a question: Which one is the better: 8600GT with DDR3 or the 9500-GS?
    And isthe any significant difference beetween them?

    For example what would the FPS difference wit the same settings?
     
  50. Nirvana

    Nirvana Notebook Prophet

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    9500m gs = 8600m gt with less heat, same performance.
     
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