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    UPDATED - The Mobile Graphics Card Info Page - Most GPU Qs answered

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by Charles P. Jefferies, Feb 4, 2006.

  1. Lithus

    Lithus NBR Janitor

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    8800m GTX = 8600m GT * 2 + Bob Saget.
     
  2. Nirvana

    Nirvana Notebook Prophet

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    up to 3 times.
     
  3. pukemon

    pukemon are you unplugged?

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    they can all play the same games. the 8800 will let you play the games with better resolutions/framerates.
     
  4. eyepwnuall

    eyepwnuall Notebook Consultant

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    I see the difference as, playing games at medium(8600/9500) or High (8800).
     
  5. johnny89

    johnny89 Notebook Evangelist

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    So the 2 cards are completely identical? Bob Saget?
     
  6. Lithus

    Lithus NBR Janitor

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    You're not a math guy are ya?
     
  7. johnny89

    johnny89 Notebook Evangelist

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    lol no i mean I dont get the point of making 2 identical cards and just naming them 2 different things so there has to be a little difference right?
     
  8. pukemon

    pukemon are you unplugged?

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    lmao. he was trying to tell you that the 8800 is about twice as powerful as the 8600 if you put bob saget in there. i think the 8800 is more than twice as powerful than 2 8600's though.
     
  9. Kamin_Majere

    Kamin_Majere =][= Ordo Hereticus

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    Means that the 8800 is better than 2 of the 8600's even if you added in the awsomeness of Bob Saget...though i have never actually heard anyone use Bob Saget as a quantifier in a math equation...its must be some of that "new learnin" that i keep hearing about :D
     
  10. ntsan

    ntsan Notebook Consultant

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    for pure spec
    8800M GTX 96sp 256bit
    8800M GTS 64sp 256bit
    8600M GT 32sp 128bit
    9500M GS 32sp 128bit

    I don't think 8600M GT SLI would beat 8800Ms, consider you don't get 2X performance for SLI
     
  11. pukemon

    pukemon are you unplugged?

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    i think you forgot bob saget. that's better than quadruple sli.
     
  12. Lithus

    Lithus NBR Janitor

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    Just as a reminder:

    * 2 != SLI; * 2 = Literally * 2.
     
  13. Nirvana

    Nirvana Notebook Prophet

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    Even SLI 8700m GT are nowhere close to a single 8800m GTX
     
  14. FreddyFreak

    FreddyFreak Notebook Guru

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    At stock speeds two 8600M GT's in SLI aren't the fastest Horse in the stable, maybe 6700 -7000 in 3DMark06. I got a pretty good overclock out of mine. Without any tweaking and an overclock I was able to pull about 9150 3DMark06 points and I still don't think I could do battle with an 8800M GTX

    You do have to remember that only newer games really make use of a multi-gpu/video card setup and even then SLI doesn't double your performance.

    If you don't plan to overclock the 8800M series is the best way to go. I'm not even sure if two 8600M GT's overclocked will beat the 8800M GTS in real world situations.
     
  15. lunateck

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    And when you overclock the 8800M, the OVERCLOCKED 8600M SLI will perish... in real world situation as well.
     
  16. Nirvana

    Nirvana Notebook Prophet

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    FreddyFreak, with liquid nitro I might able to push my 8800m to 13K
     
  17. Toryglen-boy

    Toryglen-boy Notebook Consultant

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    i have seen some new laptops with this GPU, is it any good? anyone care to consider a guess as to what it compares to?

    thanks


    :)
     
  18. KGann

    KGann NBR Themesong Writer

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    I've heard it compares to the 8600GT, so yes, it's a good card.
     
  19. Toryglen-boy

    Toryglen-boy Notebook Consultant

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    as title.

    i can read between the lines on here, and see that the 8xxxx is obviously the better part, but is there THAT much of a difference?

    comments and opinions welcome.

    thanks for enduring my stupid' questions


    :)
     
  20. CeeNote

    CeeNote Notebook Virtuoso

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    It's a decent mid-range card comparable to the gddr2 version of the 8600m gt.
     
  21. pukemon

    pukemon are you unplugged?

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    if the upgrade is for a laptop, good luck. because you probably can't do it.
     
  22. shoelace_510

    shoelace_510 8700M GT inside... ^-^;

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    Toryglen-boy Notebook Consultant

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    thanks for that, no its not for the laptop, its a general question

    care to give me a proper answer?

    ;)

    :D
     
  24. pukemon

    pukemon are you unplugged?

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    just making sure. million laptop gpu upgrades questions everyday. there's only a few laptop that can be upgraded and even then they're limited. but to answer you question, depends on the games you play and if you want to play directx 10 games. if you play demanding current games, then it's probably worth the upgrade if the price is right. if you don't play many demanding games and have no desire to play the few directx 10 games out, then probably not.
     
  25. WILLY S

    WILLY S I was saying boo-urns

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    It outperforms the GDDR3 8600m GT by a small margin. It's slightly slower than the 8700m GT.
     
  26. WILLY S

    WILLY S I was saying boo-urns

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    Depending on the game it's probably an average of a 30% performance boost. A 8600m GT\HD2600 is where the performance really starts to pick up.
     
  27. CeeNote

    CeeNote Notebook Virtuoso

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    Are we talking about the same card here? :confused: The 3650 is slower than the GDDR3 8600m GT, it performs very similar as the GDDR2 8600m GT.
     
  28. WILLY S

    WILLY S I was saying boo-urns

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    CeeNote Notebook Virtuoso

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    Check out the 3dmark benchmarks in this review. The 3650 scores about 3000 points while a 8600m gt with gddr3 scores anywhere between 4200 and 4500 points. I admit the 3dmark 06 isn't the most accurate benchmark but since the 3650 is still very new, that's all we have for now.

    EDIT: I see there's another 3650 which scored 3800 points but then again it's still considerably slower than a gddr3 8600m gt.
     
  30. WILLY S

    WILLY S I was saying boo-urns

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    GDDR3 means very little to me. There's a GDDR3 version of the 3650 too that has 256MB ram and it's bandwidth surpassed the GDDR3 8600m GT so there's no arguement from a bandwidth perspective or a raw power one.

    :rolleyes:
     
  31. HaloGod2007

    HaloGod2007 Notebook Virtuoso

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    i scored about 3500 stock and 4000 with some overclocking on this laptop gpu...and i have the 1gb ddr2 version
     
  32. tianxia

    tianxia kitty!!!

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    I don't think it's worth it. even 8600m gt isn't exactly a gaming card. mobile graphics cards are so much weaker than desktop ones as we all know(hd 4870 anyone?). a 8600m gs won't play any recent or future games at high settings or even medium now, the gt version won't fair much better either.
    I didn't choose to upgrade the 8600m gs for 8600m gt(I know they are different cards as the OP mentioned, it's just a crude comparison). I think I'll wait for the next gen cards or build a desktop when I settle down. alternatively, go for a 8800m gts/gtx. :)
     
  33. brainer

    brainer Notebook Virtuoso

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    you wont see much difference
     
  34. brainer

    brainer Notebook Virtuoso

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    its a very nice card to tell you the truth, its a very awesome Mid range card. My Dad has got one in his lappy. it plays COD4 nicely
     
  35. pjr5043

    pjr5043 Notebook Enthusiast

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    how is the nvidia 9500? .. i'm looking at the asus f8sn-b1 with the t8100 .. i'm looking mainly to run like cod4 and cs source. also i'm not sure if i should go w/ the 9300
     
  36. Harleyquin07

    Harleyquin07 エミヤ

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    Pick the 9500 if you want to play COD4, the extra power will be appreciated for that game. The 9500 is a more heat-efficient 8600 GT DDR2 which is the mid-range benchmark card.
     
  37. ekwok117

    ekwok117 Newbie

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    256mb 8400m gt
    256mb 8600m gt

    Hey. I'm debating on getting a hp 6700t that can only get up to a 256mb 8400m gt or a refurbished xps with 256mb 8600m gt. The xps will be a little more expensive but both will be around 1000. I'm not looking for hardcore gaming, but i will be doing some, along with some video editing.

    also, should the Intel(R) Core(TM) 2 Duo Processor T8100 (2.10GHz) be sufficient? or should i go for 8300?

    thanks a lot
     
  38. miscolobo

    miscolobo Notebook Deity

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    8600M GT has more power than the 8400M GT.

    8400M GT is still good for gaming though.
     
  39. JCMS

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    The T8100 is enough. 8400M GT is good enough for gaming. It should play games for the same amount of time (or near) as the 8600m gt
     
  40. vestibule1443

    vestibule1443 Notebook Evangelist

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    it looks like most of the 15.4in montevina notebooks will be equipped with the 9600M GT standard, how does this compare to the 8600GT? and should we expect a 9650 or 9700 GT in 15.4in notebooks also? if so, when, and how would they compare to the 9600?
     
  41. sirmetman

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    8400M will allow only lower settings to start with, and will probably phase out sooner (games won't not work, but will work so poorly you won't be able to play them). Video editing is CPU-bound, not GPU-bound, but the slight bump from T8100 to T8300 won't be noticeable. I'd get the 8600M and T8100.
     
  42. Halo360Fan

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    This again? Go for the 8600M GT and the T8300, which is slightly more powerful for a marginal price difference.
     
  44. Voodoofreak

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    If the price difference between the two systems isn't that great, I recommend you go for the 8600M GT. It will be better in the long run.
     
  45. Toryglen-boy

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    its a die-shrunk next gen part to the 8600GT, and offers better performance and cooling, and should be quite a noticeable upgrade

    :)
     
  46. NAS Ghost

    NAS Ghost Notebook Deity

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    ^^QFT (10 chars)
     
  47. ntsan

    ntsan Notebook Consultant

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    Well the 8600M GT have twice the SP vs 8400M GT (32sp vs 16sp), so it does make a difference in games
     
  48. cdnalsi

    cdnalsi Food for the funky people

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    Where can I find a comparison chart/website between current and future models from both nVidia and ATi?

    I'm thinking one of those charts where they show all the details like pipes and all that stuff :D

    Cheers!
     
  49. WILLY S

    WILLY S I was saying boo-urns

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    Notebookcheck.net lists them all by where the gpu's technically stand so should not be used to judge real world performance by how they're listed, but it has all the tech specs and loads of benchmarks for each card which is great.

    http://www.notebookcheck.net/Comparison-of-Grafic-Cards.130.0.html

    Keep it bookmarked, it's gold ;)
     
  50. KGann

    KGann NBR Themesong Writer

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    Got a question for you guys- on Notebookcheck, it states that the 8800GTS is MXM III. Is this correct?
     
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