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is the 9600m GT more powerful than the 9650m GT? im looking at the benches on notebookcheck and the 9600 gets a max of 5000 while the 9650 is a few hundred points lower...

also, was the 9700m GT just the name of the 9650 before they renamed it? if not, how does it perform and when will it launch?

 

This is likely the most foolish question I'll ever ask...

The " Nvidia Quadro NVS 110m". Can anyone tell if this video card (Rank 3 on notebookcheck) is integrated or dedicated? I had originally thought it was dedicated (especially because I recall it saying that on the Dell website when I got it 2 years ago). However, when I opened up my machine...there was no dedicated graphics card... I've since been perplexed.

 

It is a dedicated card.

 

lol....now it's a question of whether or not Dell jipped me or if I'm blind. Because, while I had the on-site technician come to replace my motherboard, he, too, could not see a graphics card in the machine. Perplexing.

 

Hmm... that is strange. It has 256mb of dedicated VRam, correct?

 

Correct. As well as 1GB TurboCache.

 

Well if it has 256mb of discrete memory, it's definitely a dedicated card.

 

Dedicated cards can be soldered directly to the motherboard. Integrated cards are just that, integrated into the motherboard chipset. Dedicated cards are not integrated but can be part of the motherboard. Confusing eh?

 

Blah. Confusing is an understatement. What is the point in even soldering it on? Psshaw.
I'm going to assume you're right on that assessment Andy (neither I nor the technician were looking for any soddering jobs). And my computer does say I am using a Nvidia Quadro NVS 110m. So, Dell would have to be going SIGNIFICANTLY out of their way to mask a weaker gpu, which would of course cause a fury of panic everywhere. Making all mankind revolt against Dell. Dell in it's infinite wisdom would have to resort in beliving in the machine and would rush their skynet chip to market. In their rushing of the skynet chip, unfortunately, well....I think you get the idea, ha-ha.

 

Haha, Matthewrs, that was a little excessive! But no, the NVS 110m is a dedicated card. (Unless MXM type, all cards are soldered to the motherboard)

 

*sits and ponders about Skynet, unable to think up an appropriate response*
They're all (excluding MXM) soldered? I'm going out on a limb then and assuming my gpu-spotting skills are out of date. The machines I've taken apart are from a time when those big-ol' floppy disks (you know the ones) were "cutting edge technology" up to when people would KILL for the newly released Win 95 OS. Between that timeline, I have fiddled, ha-ha. I was looking at my old games for these super-duper machines and the largest filesize amongst my games back then didn't even reach 10MB.

 

There are cards that aren't MXM and not soldered. It depends on what formfactor the manufacturer uses for that model. Older dells had a removable GPU, but it was not mxm. My present (and previous) Asus have removable graphics cardm which are not MXM.

 

That is true, some Dell's have removable cards. (A lot of the 7900's were removable)

But most are soldered.

 

I don't know why. But I am half-expecting a pinata to appear and bust open litering the floor with little colorful pieces of confetti saying, "Surprise! It really is an integrated chip!". Alright. I come out of this feeling....slightly englightend to the intracacies of integrated/dedicated chips. Ha-ha, thanks for the responses.

Edit: NOOO! This post just officially made me a "notebook geek". I don't like geeks, dang it. I'm a self-diagnosed nerd. There is a difference! Psshaw.

 

Hey man, I once was a geek too... but now, I simply train the arts of combat to Steven Seagal. You know... the simple life.

 

I'd like to know which one is better, and what the power consumption is like on both cards. I'd also like to know if the 2600 XT is better than the 9500GM, since I keep hearing conflicting info on the web.

 

Isn't the HD 2600 XT better? than the 8600M GT/9500M GS? That's what I've heard.

 

yup 2600 XT is faster.

 

XT does seem to be better but they are close enough that with certain games I would not be surprised if Nvidia does a little better. For some reason Nvidia has always been ahead and ATI behind in gaming in recent years. Other than the gaming ATI has actually had some good offerings in the past. But lets be honest all of us GPU junkies really only care about game play? Right guys?

 

I think the 12-13 inch size is right for me! Do any of you guys know any good brands?

Personally I am thinking Sony Vaio and Dell m1330 as the most powerful, but I am not sure.(Never tried either)!

Is the 8400m the best you can get in that size laptop?

 

Looks like it for now. (8400m GS... that's a little better than the 8400m G)

 

Must be a heat issue right?

The new IGPU that comes with montevina will be as powerful as a 8400m GS right?(3 times the power of x3100)... Maybe it will be worth buying an machine with integrated GPU for once!

 

I think there is a 13" LG laptop that's using the 8600m gs. I don't know which model though.

 

No. I care about my 3DMark score. Or more accurately, the fact that it is higher than yours. I'm retarded!

 

13 foot laptop lol, sure, maybe in the 50's. :laugh:
All joking aside, I believe the most powerful gpu in a 13 inch laptop would be the 8400GS.

 

M1330 in my opinion

 

Lithus show me your score I will show you mine.

 

I found it, the 13" LG P300 is using the 8600m gs:

http://www.notebookreview.com/default.asp?newsID=4296

http://www.lge.com/products/model/detail/p300.jhtml

EDIT: I can't seem to find it anywhere for sale though. You might have to stick with an 8400m gs after all.

 

It's a 8600M gs..

 

Ha-ha, well hopefully you get offered a promotion in three more posts. Or at least take a pay raise. Then you can live the sweet life.
Pop-Quiz: What form(s) of martial arts does Steven Segal know and what belt color(s)/rank(s) does he possess?

Edit: Just spoke to Dell and hey verified that it was sodered on to the motherboard (which, explains some of my oddities, as replacing the motherboard would essentially be replacing the GPU, too).

 

It's not sold in the USA...

Futureshop in Canada has it:
http://www.futureshop.ca/catalog/pr...d=0665000FS10101471&catid=25313&test_cookie=1

No, it's not. There is one with the 8600M GT...
http://www.benq.com/products/joybook/?product=1302&page=features

However, I don't know anything about it and it's not availabe in the USA...

 

Fight Fight Fight Fight!!!!

 

Or worse a come on?

 

Hey guys no matter what my 3DMark score will always be better with my Core 3 Octo Insane.

 

I Win.

 

unknowntt just because you have the first does not mean the rest of us wont have soon. As silly as I think it is for the normal user. They are working on them. I guess we will pay so they will make? Then the question will be, I can get the Octo but I hear the Hexadeca is coming out next month. What do you do? Email, Office 2010 a little but I want to get into Photoshop so I guess I will wait.

 

*Snort* If Intel produces a GPU as powerful as the 8400M GS (in something meaningful, e.g. real world performance, not 3DMark or WEI) before 2010 you can have my ThinkPad. 3 times the X3100's power wouldn't even come close - sure, the 3DMark scores would be comparable, but since the X3100 gets about 15 FPS in BioShock at 640x480 minimum detail while the 8400M GS pulls of 25 FPS at 1024x768 medium detail, for example...well, you do the math.

Here you go:

Key phrases: 3 times faster than the GMA 3100 - not the X3100, which is a completely different beast; the standard 3100 lacks hardware T&L and doesn't use CUDA. Second, they mention being 3 times faster in 3DMark - well the GMA 950 was three times as fast as the GMA 900 in 3DMark05 but both were equally poor performers in any game. And finally, a score of 1000 points in 3DMark06 is still about half of what the GeForce 8400M GS scores - and that's only in 3DMark land, where "relative performance" has no meaning.

 

Oh yea.. AMD'S IGP solution is as powerful as a 8400M gs. So you can go AMD if you want

 

8400GS on my XPS 1330 seems to struggle anything other than WoW if that makes any difference. you shouldn't expept anything other than light gaming off a 13" notebook.

 

Yeah. except if you're on a 8600M gs or a GT

 

Listen pp I'm always ahead of the game, when YOU FINALLY get your Core 3 Octo, I'll have my Core 5.0 X 10^87 icosidodecaocto. I'll have 18 trillion cores on one die, and you'll be stuck with the obsolete Core 3 Octo.

Just to let you know, I've JUST placed my order for my Core 5.0 X 10^87 icosidodecaocto, it'll be here in a couple weeks.

It's okay to be envious and jealous pp, just because I have the best of the best, the top processor out there.

 

Try out the new ASUS Lamborghini VX3 http://www.superwarehouse.com/p.cfm?p=1527808&CMP=KAC-GoogleShopping
its not ordinarily price, so be prepared to pay for some luxury.

 

m1330
I'm satisfied with performance in every game i play but crysis of course

 

The latest Maximum PC has a review of a bunch of 13" & 15" Windows laptops versus the Macbooks. Even though it's a Mac vs. PC article it still provides good info and all the different notebooks. Dell, Asus, Sony, IBM are all covered.

Personally I'd choose the M1330 over the Sony. Sony= form before function.


Oh...and the results of the Mac vs. Windows notebook showdown? Mac won. No surprise there really.

 

That overpriced thing will have about an hour of battery life... unless you spend even more on a larger battery, if one exists. Besides, 9300m G is about the same as the 8400m GS, which can be found in much cheaper 13.3" notebooks, aka m1330.

 

First of all, major probs to you for knowing that I got that info from wikipedia! wow. That is amazing.

I have never really seen a X3100 or a 3100 in action, but just heard they would do games from 5 years ago pretty well!?

Thats dissapointing as hell, to be frank. I have always been an Intel/Nvidia guy. In all my life I have never owned a product or anything with AMD or ATi in it. Well except for some game consoles, but does don't count, right!?

On the Mac boards they make such a big deal about the Macbooks overhaul. Someone said that Macbook wouldnt need a graphics card when montevina arrived because the X4000(thats the name right?) that is build in, would be as powerful as a 8400 GS!

 

Xoticpc.com sells an Asus based part with the 9500m gs in it.

EDIT: Sorry, it's the 14 inch F8 based line.

 

But holy crap. All that in a 12'? That thing gotta be so hot that it will explode. holy damn... even if it only has one hour battery(fishy that they dont write their own estimates - not a good sign IMO) how the hell did they manage to get all that in it? 320 GB harddrive, 2,5 Core 2 Duo.. 4 Gigs of Ram.
How did they achieve that? I thought that was impossible regardless of price, and I thought that was the reason that companies like Alienware didnt offered 12-13' laptops... because they where weak!?

Never tried it, but I did have a laptop with an 8600m GT and that was okay. Ran crysis on low/medium.
An 8400m... How would that handle future titles like Diablo 3, Starcraft 2 and the likes?
If the M1330 gets a refresh, do you think they will update the graphics card to an Nvidia 9th generation, and if so, will it be as powerful as the 8400m GS, or could more power be realistic?

saw the article on the frontpage. but as I said. Never owned an AMD/ATI product. Kinda freaked out, actually.
Im afraid that even if I buy it, most games will be better optimized for Nvidia cards because they have dominated for years.

 

This laptop from MSI looks like it could have some power. 12" with AMD Puma with the ATI 3450, which could be pretty good when using Hybrid Crossfire with the HD3200. Supposed to be released late July though.

http://global.msi.com.tw/index.php?func=proddesc&prod_no=1500&maincat_no=135&cat2_no=270

 

cool. No MSI computers in my country.


do you think more companies will be ready with puma? I cant wait to see how they perform.