UPDATED - The Mobile Graphics Card Info Page - Most GPU Qs answered

No one mentioned the Benq X31?

nVIDIA GeForce 8600M GT DDR3 in a 13,3" package.
http://www.benq.com/products/joybook/?product=1302&page=specifications

Must be the most powerfull 13inch gaming laptop.

 

try keeping that under 10exp999 degrees, show me a pic of your computer that has been turned into gas cus the cpu heats up so badly

 

he is using liquid nitrogen cooling fool!

 

Yeah? Well I was just browsing pcmicroworks.com, and they already have listed for sale the Googol Plex Core option in their Edge model, even though Clevo never mentioned that option. So I ordered that!

 

why not go with HP TX2500, with iGP 3200 as powerful as 8400GS.. check out the 3dmark at notebookcheck.com..
i know it isn`t 13'3 but if you want smaller more powerful 12' notebook go with TX2500..

 

Is that really a DDR3?

Regardless, how the hell did they fit that in a laptop " < 1" thick "

It must have crazy overheating issues.

 

I guess my PII is gonna be out-dated soon...



Nah, it's still king!

 

I mentioned it a couple pages back bu my post was ignored,

 

What are these * mean, please?

 

i think it means they cant run the aero experiance

 

Actually, All of those CAN run Aero. It's from the big list, where the * is not defined.

 

It was supposed to donate that the card was able to run Vista Aero, but since that's outdated now I removed it from the guide.

 

There is any 15" notebook that have it?

 

The m15x by Alienware has the 8800m GTX, and I believe the new Clevo will house one, too.

 

the alienware m15x and the clevo m860tu

 

The 3200 is integrated and would not out perform the 8600 GT. I seem to be in the same boat as you though...im looking for the best integrated card (which seems to be the 3200 so far...or the Nvidia 7150) because i am on a tight budget Would anyone recommend the Radeon 3200 over the Nvidia 7150? I am planing to play Counter-Strike and maybe Starcraft 2?? Thanks

 

I would probably go for the HD3200. The 7150m wasn't too powerful in the end.

 

What is the better buy for the games i was talking about? the GeForce 8400M GS or the Radeon HD 3450? What the better overall? Here are the comps in looking at.

http://http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=8669639&productCategoryId=pcmcat152400050000&type=product&tab=2&id=1196470766892#productdetail

 

They both show almost identical performance.

 

Is 8600M GS be the GDDR3 or GDDR2 version? thank.

 

8600m GS DDR2=go 7700 DDR2, pretty much. As there were no go7700 GDDR3, the 8600m GS can be seen as better (newer and available with GDDR3).

 

which graphic cards that 8600GS DDR3 should be rank between them?
is it faster than Nvidia GeForce 8600M-GT DDR2.
many thank.

 

no, it is not.

 

How does this compare?
NVIDIA® GeForce® 9650M GS 512MB

 

The 9650GS is a die-shrink of the 8700mGT so it performance will be comparable to that.

 

thanks a bunch

 

can nyone tell me Which one's ATI 3450 or Nvidea 8400m Gs .........

I hav seen the chart nd it showed 3450 better but some of my friendz are suggesting otherwise ... nd i am still confused.

It wouldbe really appreciated if someone explains in Detail.

Tnx

 

are there any gddr3 versions of the 3650?

 

Here is a comparison: http://www.gpureview.com/show_cards.php?card1=529&card2=555

The only thing I know for sure that is better about the ATI is that it runs cooler.

 

I think so: in the reviews published here, Dell Studio 17 scores 3000 in 3Dmark06, while Asus M70S scores 3800. I think it's because of the memory, but there are not any GPU-Z screenshots...

 

I don't understand a whole lot about graphic cards, just that memory isn't that important when looking at a card, but looking at the actual stream processors that do the work of the former dedicated pixel- and vertex-shaders.

BUT

as some of you might know, I had a notebook which I overclocked by like 50%, and killed it because I was tooooo stupid to understand what was going on cause I'm a NOOB (yes, I will admit I was not smart)

So I'm looking for a new notebook, particularly interested in the Sony Vaio SZ Series VGN-SZ780N5 which features a nVidia 8400M GS 64MB DDR3 with hybrid integrated X3100 IGP GPU card.

However, it seems like the new Z series from Sony will sport a nVidia 9300M GS 256MB card (unknown if it is DDR2 or DDR3)

My friend who is ATI fan says that 8400 in the previous notebook will outperform the 9300 because it has 8 more unified shaders? He told me that the 9300 features only 8 unified shaders and is produced in 65nm whereas the 8400 has 16 unfied shaders making it more powerful.

Here's a quick rundown of the potential specs

SZ:
CPU: Intel Core 2 Duo T9300(2.50GHz) FSB 800MHz L2 Cache 6MB (Penryn)
GPU: NVIDIA GeForce 8400M GS 64MB DDR3 & Intel GMA X3100

Z:
CPU: Intel Core 2 Duo P8600(2.40GHz) FSB 1066MHz L2 Cache 3MB (Montevina)
GPU: NVIDIA GeForce 9300M GS 256MB & Intel GMA X3100


All I really want to do is play Call of Duty 4, so which card will offer me more of a performance boost?

The CPU in the Z is .10GHz less powerful, 3MB less L2 Cache, and a potentially weaker graphics card.


P.S. Sorry for the wall of text, I'm just really confused

 

Is battery life any concern for you as the 9300M is much more energy efficient and also produces less heat.

 

Battery life is probably not going to be a concern for me because both Vaio's have the Hybrid option switching from IGP to Discrete with a push of a toggle. Also, I pretty much only game on my laptop when it's plugged in, I just want the best performance.

I'm sensing from your statement that the 8400 might actually be faster then the 9300...You would think it be the same GPU chipset except smaller, more energy efficient, and produces less heat. But if nVidia.com, Wiki, and notebookcheck stats are all right....then the 9300M GS must only have 8 unified shaders compared to the 16 the 8400M GS has...but 256mb memory > 64 mb memory...

*Sigh* I'm conflicted...Will the Montevina CPU be slower then the Penryn one as well?? I might as well get the SZ over the Z then, but I don't want to regret my decision

 

Theres a few problems there. First of all, they're both Penryn Processors. The first laptop is a Santa Rosa system if you're going to compare chipsets, but really its not going to matter if you're purely talking about gaming.

Second, the Intel GMA on the Montevina (Chipset name, NOT processor name) system (if it really is a Centrino 2 system), then the GMA will be X4500, not X3100. Again, not that it would make a difference for gaming since you'll be running the 9300M GS anyways.

I always though that the 9300M GS was simply a rebadge of the 8400M GS. Either way, both cards are going to be extremely similar. I would go for the newer tech and get the newer laptop with the 9300M GS at this point in time.

 

Technically, the 8400m GS will outperform the 9300m GS, as your friend is correct, the 9300m GS only has 8 UP's, where the 8400m GS has 16. I believe both are crippled with the 64bit, though.

 

thanks for the correction, like I said, I'm a noob

but the 9300M GS is a better choice gaming wise then the 8400M GS?

Wow, seriously? He's wrong about everything else =/ LOL

I know Wikipedia is NOT a valid source:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GeForc...FUNIQ4895d8bc482a015b-nowiki-00000047-QINU.7F

* 16 Stream Processors.
* 400 MHz core clock.
* 800 MHz shader clock.
* 600 MHz memory clock.
* Up to 256 MB memory.
* 64-bit memory interface.
* 9.6 GB/s memory bandwidth.
* 3.2 billion texels/s texture fill rate.

it states 16 stream processors...probably wrong huh?

I'm wondering if the new Core 2 Duo SP9300 will outperform the current T9300, but CPU specs only have a small affect on gaming performance right?

 

OUCH, I just read this:
http://www.theinquirer.net/gb/inquirer/news/2008/07/09/nvidia-g84-g86-bad

and this:

http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=270732

I'm guessing I need to stay FAR away from the 8400M GS GPU, crappier 9300M GS, here I come!

 

No, it's the same G86M core.

9300M GS. 9500M G. 9500M GS & 9650M GS should all be affected too.

 

Well, if you check out the Official specs for the 9300m GS on Nvidia.com, they list it with 8 UP's.

 

Hmm my bad you're right. The 9300M GS is a G98. The 9300M G is a G86 though

 

just wanted to know , will the ATI 3450 support games suhch as Tiberium Wars (C & C) and Rainbow 6 Las Vegas 2 ??

if not , will the ATI 3650 and nVidia 8400 support it?

 

The games are supported, the main problem being the video cards not being top-tier gaming cards which will lead to performance issues when game video settings are set beyond what the cards are physically capable of.

 

great summary.thanks

 

I was able to play TW on high settings with my old 7400go. Seeing as the ATI 3450 owns it in benchmarks (scores are up to three times higher), I don't think you would have any problems with it. I can't tell you about Rainbow though

 

8600m GS gddr3 on Vostro 1710 Vs ATi mobility radeon 3650 gddr2 on the studio 17... which ones the better performer?

 

i think the radeon3650 will beat the 8600m gs .

 

The 3650 will definitly beat the 8600m GS.

3650>9500m GS=8600m GT>HD2600>>8600m GS

 

found this on another site:

"In conjunction with the Nvidia 9100M G integrated graphics, the 9300M GS supports Hybrid-SLI (HybridPower and GeForceBoost). HybridPower is a technique to choose between the integrated and dedicated graphics core, if performance or battery runtime is needed. This works only in Windows Vista. Up to now the user has to use a tool to switch between the GPUs. Later Nvidia wants to switch automatically in the drivers. GeForceBoost uses the integrated graphics core of the 9100M G and the dedicated of the 9300M in SLI mode to achieve better frame rates."

might even beat the 8400gs afterall.

 

well, the only thing that might beat it is that

9300M GS Clock Speeds:
Core Speed: 550 MHz
Memory Speed: 700 MHz

and

8400M GS Clock Speeds:
Core Speed: 400 MHz
Memory Speed: 600 MHz

so although the 8400 has 16 unified pipelines, the 9300 only has 8 unified pipelines, its hard to see which will actually be faster.

so which is faster? A car traveling at 40mph on a 16 lane freeway or a car traveling at 55mph on a 8 lane freeway?

My guess is that the 8400M GS will beat it since it has more room for the data to travel even though it moves at slower speeds BUT because of the new defective nVidia cards, the 8400 is a G86M core so its affected and will probably die out 6 months after getting it.

I'm getting a laptop with a 9300 hopefully

 

The 9300m is based on the "defective" core, too. The 8400m GS will be more powerful.