UPDATED - The Mobile Graphics Card Info Page - Most GPU Qs answered

Sager NP2096:

Intel P9500 45nm "Montevina" Core 2 Duo 2.53GHz w/6MB L2 On-die cache - 1066MHz FSB 25 watt

512MB PCI-Express nVidia GeForce 9600M GT DDR2 DX10

2,048/3072MB DDR2 800 (1/2 SODIMM) Memory

Force 3551:

Intel® P8400 45nm "Montevina" Core™2 Duo 2.26GHz w/3MB L2 On-die cache - 1066MHz FSB 25 watt

512MB PCI-Express nVidia GeForce 9600M GT DDR3 DX10

2,048MB (Corsair or Kingston) DDR2 800 (1 SODIMM) Dual Channel Memory

Which one is better??

On what settings will these notebooks be able to play crysis??

Which one will be able to play crysis better??

 

Will a 9200m gs be able to run cod4, or will i have to look for something better?

 

Maybe at the lowest of lowest settings, but you need to be looking at the 8400m GT/9500m GS or above to game.

 

The second one is better since it has a 9600M-GT with DDR3 memory. The processor doesn't make a tangible difference, go with the P8400.

 

why is it better to get gddr3 and 9600gt gddr3 is good enough with a p8400 2.26GHz processor?

 

Hi HT,

Since your interest is GAMING ... That is why CHAZ suggested that card because your GAMING is done by your Graphic Card (GPU) and not your CPU ... so BETTER GPU more important.

G!

 

So the toshiba qosmio f55-502 will be exactly what we have been talking about???...better GPU than CPU?

 

Hi HT,

I just checked your Toshiba

http://explore.toshiba.com/laptops/qosmio/F50/F55-Q502

Toshiba has
CPU: Intel® Core™2 Duo Processor P7350 (2.0GHz, 3MB Cache)
GPU: NVIDIA® GeForce® 9700M GTS (256 memory)

The 9700M GTS is pretty high end card that would out-perform 9600M GT (128 memory) ...

http://www.notebookcheck.net/NVIDIA-GeForce-9700M-GTS.9899.0.html

G!

 

Yes, the P8400 will be more than fast enough to play the latest games. No need to upgrade to a higher processor.

GDDR3 is faster memory than DDR2. That means the video card will have more bandwidth (data flow) with the faster GDDR3 memory.

 

Hi Chaz,

The Toshiba HT is looking at has a Killer Graphic card ... on top of your list right up with 9800 card.

BUT his CPU is P7350 ... would this cause him any trouble ... since it is even lower than a T8100?

G!

 

Hey Chaz, not to impose or anything, as you have done a fantastic job with the charts, and keeping them up to date, but I do have a question:

Should the 9700M GTS be considered high-end, due to the 256bit bus? Or is it still held back by its lack of US's?

 

I was thinking the exact thing i dont want it to intefere that much in gaming lol

 

Could anyone kindly tell me how big the difference is between an 8800M GTS 512 MB and a 9600M GT 512 MB? I think both are GDDR3.

 

The 8800m GTS has 64 Unified Shaders, while the 9600m GT I believe has 42? I may be wrong, as I probably am.

 

How much influence would that have in say FPS?

 

Quite a bit, but again, it may have less US's. I think the 9700m GTS has 48, and the 9600m GT is quite a bit less powerful than it. The 9600m GT is a mid-range card, where the 8800m GTS is a high-end card. (There, that's the only way I can put it )

What games are you looking to play?

 

Hi Shroomy,

Look here for you answers ...

Graphic Cards Comparison
http://www.notebookcheck.net/Comparison-of-Grafic-Cards.130.0.html

Mobile Graphic Benchmarks
http://www.notebookcheck.net/Mobile-Graphics-Cards-Benchmark-List.844.0.html

8800M GTS Benchmarks
http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=217805

9600M GT Benchmarks
http://www.notebookjournal.com/news/1009

Hope this helps ...

G!

 

Crysis :F

I saw other deals and my laptop comes on tuesday, but I feel like I'll have a heavy bottleneck when seeing what these other laptops have in them "8800M GTS, 9800M GT I think"

Maybe I'm expecting much out of a £975 laptop!

Thank you very much G!

 

Well, the 9800m GT out-performs the 8800m GTS by a decent margin. The 9600m GT will handle Crysis at 1280x800, medium or so to keep above 30FPS. If you don't mind dips into the lower 20's, you could bump some settings up to high. I prefer to play 1280x800 all high, with Textures and Objects on VHigh so I can keep my framerate above 30FPS at all times.

 

Whurr!!!!! D=

I was told I could manage a steady 20-30fps on High, bloody hell I'll be tweaking the configs for ages before I actually start to enjoy the game! Would it have been worth to spend about £200-300 more, on an 8800M GTS 512MB, with 2GB RAM, and about Core 2 DUo 2.4GHZ?

 

Yes. If you are a gamer, then yes. The 9600M GT will pull of high, but at a lower resolution. (1024x640 or so) Are you as picky as I am about framerates, or do you mind some "give"?

 

I'm very picky about fps man!

ugh, I'm , I wish I could get the same specs and a better gpu for a bit more, that Clevo M860TU is looking really nice, price wise not as much!

Who sells the M860TU in the UK? would you get a 9800M GT in a laptop for £1k?

 

Umm... not really familiar with Sager/Clevo, but Gophn would know. If you can find his posts, he has a "Clevo Guide" in his signature, which would direct you on where to purchase a Clevo in the UK.

 

Alright, shall take a look for Gophn, thanks again KGann!

 

Shroomy,

Look here Gophn's guide ... I think I saw M860TU pics in some of your UK resellers ...

http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=91510#uk

But "Kobalt" & "Rock" might provide you with a 8800M GTX or 9800M GTS card which are very close to what you want 9800M GT ...

I don't know if you can get it for £1k though ... unfortuantely those Resellers don't appear to give much choice of customization.

G!

 

Just saw that guide, and I'm really interested in the Kobalt Nexus! 9800M GTS 512MB GDDR3! ;o~~~~

Now, that has to destroy the 9600M GT 512MB GDDR3, right?

 

Oh yes, but the 9800m GT is better than the 9800m GTS.

 

Sure, I can make that change. Thanks for pointing out that it has a 256-bit bus, I did not know that.

Do you have a suggestion as to where it should go?

 

..And way out of my budget at that too!

Wait, checking those links gonwk posted, in 3D Mark 06 it's just under a hundred less than the GT! No real difference there! It's faster than an 8800M GTX!

 

Not a clue... I'll look into Notebookcheck, see what they say.

 

That is completely inaccurate, and everyone has pointed it out. It only has 64 US's, where the 8800M GTX has like 96.

 

I know, I read that in those links but

9800M GT 512MB
Core Speed 500 MHz
Shader Speed 1250 MHz
Memory Speed 800 MHz
3D Mark 06 Score: 9762

9800M GTS 512MB
Kerntakt 600 MHz
Shadertakt 1500 MHz
Speichertakt 800 MHz
3D Mark 06 Score: 9683

 

Notebookcheck is pretty shady, but so far, they're the only ones with certain info...

 

I thought that you know, but comparing GT and GTS's can be quite confusing!

I hope your man Neil from Kobalt gets back to me soon, I'd like to know more about those Nexus's, because they look real nice, despite having 2GB less ram and less CPU power!

 

I think the thread became unstickied. It frightens me when this thing starts floating among the other threads...talk about a Behemoth!

 

This thread is technically stickied, since it is linked in the General Index Sticky. We got too many stickies and ended up making a big thread with a lot of links as a compromise.

 

I thought it got deleted, then I started to worry, but I was able to find again!

Mod, please sticky this thread again as it is great for informing confuzzled people like myself!

 

Lol this is one huge thread... for a topic like this.

 

There were too many stickies, so you can now find this in the mega sticky, with a few more good threads to read.

(you probably missed Chaz's post, so here it is again)

 

The 9800M GT/GTS scores are artificially boosted by the use of a Q6600 chip. The 9800M GT is essentially indistinguishable from the 8800M GTX in a machine with the same processor. Since the 9800M GTS has 32 less SP's than the 9800M GT, it shouldn't outperform the 8800M GTX, but due to it's inflated score, notebookcheck has it outperforming the 8800M GTX. Additionally, 3dmark06 scores tend to fluctuate a range of a few hundred points, so don't get too excited. Sorry.

And Chaz, like what KGann mentioned previously, wouldn't the 9700M GTS, as a 256-bit card be more suitable under the high-end card category?

 

Would a 2.00 GHz processor with 9700gts ddr3 and 3gb memory be better or worse for gaming than a 2.4 GHz processor with 9600gt ddr2 and 2 gb memory??

NP2096 2.4 GHz 9600gt ddr2 and 2 gb memory

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Toshiba Qosmio F55-502 2.00GHz 9700gts ddr3 and 3gb memory

 

The 2.00Ghz with 9700 would be much, much better.

 

For gaming, I would stress on the one with the better GPU.

 

Definitely agree with the above posts. Go for the better GPU. You can always upgrade the CPU later.

 

so the cpu on the toshiba qosmio is upgradeable?? and if so how much would it cost for me to upgrade the wosmio to maybe 2.26 or 2.4??

 

You buy the CPU yourself so you will have to look out for a good deal for a good 2.4 Penryn and then sell off your original CPU. CPU upgrades can be DIY or you can ask a shop to do it for you for a fee.

 

Thanks for the reminder; I added the 9700M-GTS under the High Performance section. It's just below the 8800M-GTS, since it only has 48 processor cores (the 8800M-GTS has 64).
If anyone has benchmarks that show it should go elsewhere, be sure to let me know.

 

Hmm. Where is my incoming 8200M G on the Big Chart?

I'm guessing it would fall in slightly above the Go 7400, but I may be wrong.



Mike

 

Hi Mike - do you have any game benchmarks or 3DMark06 results for your video card? Based on its specs, I think around the Go7400 is reasonable though I'd need benchmarks to confirm and be able to put it in the chart.
http://www.nvidia.com/object/geforce_8200m_g_mgpu.html

 

The unit is not slated to be shipped by HP until the 7th, so I would expect to get it around the 12th. At that time, I will run 3DMark06 and post the screenie.


Mike