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    UPDATED - The Mobile Graphics Card Info Page - Most GPU Qs answered

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by Charles P. Jefferies, Feb 4, 2006.

  1. KGann

    KGann NBR Themesong Writer

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    This post was from a thread created earlier, which one of the moderators helpfully moved to this thread.

    A little common sense... (Read the title of his post)
     
  2. Sharkonwheels

    Sharkonwheels Notebook Evangelist

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    Yeah - forgot - Isn't a 286 page thread a LITTLE bit hard to manage?

    When a thread gets merged in, it doesn't even bother taking you to the post in question...it just drops you to the beginning. Kinda' hard to find stuff....



    T
     
  3. umermajeed

    umermajeed Notebook Consultant

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    In 13.3" notebooks the best available graphics card i knew of is nvidia 8600gs in lg p300...

    asus now released the new laptops with ATI HD3470 DDR2....also 13.3" screens....


    Anybody has any idea how HD3470 performs against 8600gs....and wat is its general performance in gaming....

    with med/low settings....1280x1024 res....no AA or shadows...

    wat kind of fps can one expect from hd3470 in newer games (offcourse dont count crysis though) with above mentioned low settings.

    Also how do 8400m and 9300m compare to these cards
     
  4. JDELUNA

    JDELUNA Notebook Deity

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    I am going to guestimate that the ATI HD3450 and the Nvidia 8600M GS are about equal in performance with each other. Again just my *guesstimation* :p Hope this helps. God Bless :)
     
  5. scadsfkasfddsk

    scadsfkasfddsk Notebook Evangelist

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    Actually the 8600GS would be noticeably more powerful, notice for example that its got a high card bus (128bit versus 64bit).
     
  6. MegaMan X

    MegaMan X Notebook Evangelist

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    there's also these 13.3" notebooks with gaming power:

    Epson NA801 - 2.1GHz Core 2 Duo T8100, NVIDIA 256MB GeForce 8600M GT, and 3GB of DDR2 RAM

    BenQ JoyBook X31 - Core 2 Duo LV L7500 Processor 1.6GHz, 2GB RAM, and NVIDIA 256MB GeForce 8600M GT
     
  7. Orange Robot

    Orange Robot Notebook Guru

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    I can't find evidence that this exists anywhere.

    This may not exist outside of Asia.
     
  8. umermajeed

    umermajeed Notebook Consultant

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    I couldnt find epson either

    how about just the comparison of the cards i have listed
     
  9. wizo

    wizo Notebook Enthusiast

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    I had the the Fw 170 j/w-specs here:
    ProcessorIntel� Core(TM)2 DuoProcessor Speed2.26GHz

    System Bus1066MHzCache Memory3MB on die level 2

    System Memory (RAM)4GBType of Memory (RAM)PC2-6400 DDR2 SDRAMHard

    Drive TypeSerial ATA (5400 rpm)Hard Drive Size
    320GBOptical DriveDouble

    GraphicsMobile Intel® Graphics Media Accelerator 4500MHD with Intel® Clear Video Technology
    16.4 widescreen display with XBRITE-ECO

    Now i got a custom ordered Fw 190 specs here:
    Intel® Core 2™ Duo Processor T9400 (2.53GHz)

    4 GB DDR2-SDRAM (DDR2-800, 2GBx2)

    200 GB SATA Hard Disk Drive [7200 rpm]

    ATI Mobility Radeon™ HD 3470 with 256MB vRAM
    LCD 16.4" (XBRITE-HiColor™)

    I wanted to know how the new card stacks up. I mean I wanted to make sure I got something that will play games and stay current for some time. I dont really play a lot on it, I do have a PS3 for my gaming fix. I have the new flight Sim. but saw that it played with limitations on graphics. I had to mess around a lot with settings to make it look fluid. Are these types of cards upgradable later on or are they stuck at the performance numbers givens. i.e. 256 mb dedicated?

    Thanks for your help and responses...
     
  10. laesperanzapaz

    laesperanzapaz Notebook Enthusiast

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    I think you guys need to update the big chart with the 9600 gt, i cant see it.
     
  11. yinloung

    yinloung Notebook Guru

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    I'm looking at some notebook to compare. In terms of making graphic with photoshop, flash and some gaming programs, which one is better?


    Geforce 9300 GS ( known as 9400...? ) 256mb vs Radeon 3470 HD 256mb.

    Which one is better?
     
  12. WILLY S

    WILLY S I was saying boo-urns

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    The 8600m GS outperforms the others by a conciderable margin.

    The performance goes:
    8600m GS > 8400m GT >> HD3470 > 8400m GS = 9300m GS = HD3450 > 8400m G

    If you could find a laptop with a HD3650\9500m GS it would be a nice step up over the 8600m GS.

    The amount of dedicated memory means nothing if the card isn't powerfull enough to take advantage of it. The 3470 will be limited to using around 128mb vram for games while the 4500 has no dedicated vram at all.
    The 3470 is a step up over the 4500, you'll be able to play games on a higher setting, but if you're going to buy a 15" - 17" laptop then look for a more powerfull gpu.
    http://www.notebookcheck.net/Comparison-of-Graphic-Cards.130.0.html
     
  13. Charles P. Jefferies

    Charles P. Jefferies Lead Moderator Super Moderator

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    It's there, right ahead of the ATI Radeon HD 3650.
     
  14. Hep!

    Hep! sees beauty in everything

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    Radeon 3470.
     
  15. Thaenatos

    Thaenatos Zero Cool

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    I concur, after seeing what my little 3200 IGP can do I may try ATi again. Go 3470.
     
  16. Gotei 13

    Gotei 13 Notebook Evangelist

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    Between these 2 cards is there a major difference in performance in gaming? Both laptops have T9400 and 4gb of ram.
     
  17. aespinalc

    aespinalc Notebook Evangelist

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    GT will be about 10~20% faster than the gs...
    in notebookcheck ull find all specs for both
     
  18. Gotei 13

    Gotei 13 Notebook Evangelist

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    So the 9600m GT is a overclocked version of 9600m GS?
     
  19. Boomerz

    Boomerz Notebook Enthusiast

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    Or you could say the 9600m gs is an underclocked version of 9600m GT.
     
  20. WileyCoyote

    WileyCoyote Notebook Evangelist

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    I think it would be possible to overclock the 9600m gs to 9600m gt clocks.
     
  21. carleiras

    carleiras Newbie

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    Hi Guys,

    Quick question, which of these boards would perform best for:

    a. DVD Copying
    b. Blue-Ray Playing
    c. Games

    Thanks,
     
  22. Andy

    Andy Notebook Prophet

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    Thats a tough question....maybe because it has been asked in the wrong forum.

    But I guess 9600M GS < HD 3670 (< 9650M GS)....

    (And I think the HD 3670 is available with GDDR4 memory as well (apart from GDDR3/DDR2), so that should be good)
     
  23. carleiras

    carleiras Newbie

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    Hi Guys,

    Quick question, which of these boards would perform best for:

    a. DVD Copying
    b. Blue-Ray Playing
    c. Games

    Thanks,
     
  24. K-TRON

    K-TRON Hi, I'm Jimmy Diesel ^_^

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    1) the graphics card plays no part in the speed of dvd copying - its all about the processor
    2) both are more than powerful enough to play a blu-ray video
    3) The 3670 is the more powerful card, so that will offer the best game play.

    K-TRON
     
  25. powerpack

    powerpack Notebook Prophet

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    I say K-T correct on all 3. And at this point with this choice would feel so much more comfortable not having Nvidia if I had a choice.
     
  26. Andy

    Andy Notebook Prophet

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    Yeah, I missed that DVD copying thing - CPU intensive....(Dang !!) :p
     
  27. D3X

    D3X the robo know it all

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    You sure about that? last time I checked the fastest DVD burner for notebooks is 8x - its all about the ODD...

    Right, but the 9600m GS may perform slightly better in some other games less optimized for ATi/AMD GPUs. Seriously both will probably play games fine and the difference between them isn't that great.
     
  28. Onesueh

    Onesueh Company Representative

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    A. DVD burning has nothing to do with Video Card.
    B. Blue-Ray playing: Yes, but both are O.K.
    C. Games: depending what you are playing. 9600M GS is a middle end card, but ATI HD 3670 is a entry level to middle card. And 512MB is better than 256MB.
     
  29. boypogi

    boypogi Man Beast

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    is there a huge difference in performance between the mobility hd2400 xt and the mobility hd3450 and hd3470??
     
  30. K-TRON

    K-TRON Hi, I'm Jimmy Diesel ^_^

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    D3X, its good you are always around, making up for where us others make silly mistakes.
    Yeah, I forgot about the Optical drive, that surely slows the process down a bit.

    K-TRON
     
  31. fabarati

    fabarati Frorum Obfuscator

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    a is not affected by either

    b & c is HD3670
     
  32. HyBry

    HyBry Notebook Enthusiast

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    Lets say all esle being the same, which would be better for gaming 9650M GT DDR2 or 9600M GT DDR3?
     
  33. notyou

    notyou Notebook Deity

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    Easily the 9600M GT since it's memory can be clocked higher (and the 9650M GT core is probably just an OCed version of the 9600M GT core).
     
  34. Xirurg

    Xirurg ORLY???

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    +1 for 9600gt
     
  35. D3X

    D3X the robo know it all

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    Well between the HD2400 there is a significant difference, however the difference between a HD3450 and a HD3470 is not so much since the GPU design is exactly the same except that the core and memory speeds are faster on the ladder GPU, it's like the difference between a 9500 GS and a 9600 GS or 8600 GT -> 8700 GT.
     
  36. skiabox

    skiabox Newbie

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    Which gfx card is sufficient for developent in 17inch 1920x1200 resulutions?
    Thank you!
     
  37. imran-17

    imran-17 Notebook Geek

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    which one is better?
     
  38. Xirurg

    Xirurg ORLY???

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    they are the same.
     
  39. imran-17

    imran-17 Notebook Geek

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    could 2x9800gt 512mb cards run crysis smoothly on high settings?
     
  40. matmat07

    matmat07 Notebook Evangelist

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    Maybe i'm wrong, but isn't this one the best card possible?
     
  41. Xirurg

    Xirurg ORLY???

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    9800GT is pretty much a re-branded 8800GT which is way slower then an 8800GTX, unless the notebook editions of said cards are totally different from their desktop counterparts in terms of hierarchy, which I doubt....
     
  43. narsnail

    narsnail Notebook Prophet

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    yes, as they usually are. the 8800m gtx and the 9800m gt are the same
     
  44. SuperNova1

    SuperNova1 Notebook Consultant

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    notebook GPUs are always different from desktop's, in this case they are not even the same core.
     
  45. AshleyinVA

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    NVIDIA GeForce 9200M GS <<-- I notice this one isn't in the review.. would it be considered low end or middle.. ? I haven't looked through this thread much, so forgive me if this has been asked a lot..
    Chaz.. can you add this one to your page?
     
  46. chen

    chen Notebook Deity

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    9200M GS is the slower form of 9300M GS, a mid-range graphic card
     
  47. fabarati

    fabarati Frorum Obfuscator

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    the 9300m GS is a low end card, not a mid end one.
     
  48. kbear99

    kbear99 Notebook Enthusiast

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    Anyone know where the HD 3450 & 3470 would fit in Chaz's Big Chart? Thx in advance.
     
  49. fabarati

    fabarati Frorum Obfuscator

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    Just abouve HD2400 for HD3450 and just above HD2400 XT for HD3470, due to them being essentially the same card, with minor optimizations.
     
  50. polys

    polys Notebook Enthusiast

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    Hello

    I'm planning to buy a laptop with the following specs but i'm stuck at the graphics card i'm gonna choose

    Intel® Core™ 2 Duo Processor T9300 (2.5 GHz)
    17.0" (1920x1200) TFT Display
    4GB RAM

    Which graphics card is better in this case?

    256MB ATI Mobility RADEON HD 3650
    or the
    256 NVidia GeForce 8600 GT
     
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