UPDATED - The Mobile Graphics Card Info Page - Most GPU Qs answered

I want to use laptop to enjoy the films and pics. Do I need a discrete GPU?

With the same screen and configuration, a discrete card would make the pics more bright and colorful? thanks！

 

the ATI Mobility RADEON HD 3650 is better

 

Definitely the ATi, its 8 series equivalent is the 8700GT (if I'm not wrong).

 

Not to mention all Nvidia 8 series cards are "questionable" and may have overheating issues.

 

please post benchmarks and a review when you get your lappie

 

I was under the impression the Mobility HD 3650 was close the the 8600M GT DDR2 in performance, and less powerful than the 8600M GT GDDR3.

Are there any benchmarks that show the Mobility 3650 is more powerful than the 8600M GT (DDR2 or GDDR3)?

 

well i am actually between two laptops

1) the Dell XPS M1530 and
2) the Dell Studio 17

both more or less with same specs (2.5GHz, 4GB Ram etc)

But i wanna choose based on which one has the best graphics. The XPS has the NVidia 8600 GT and the Studio 17 has the ATI HD 3650.

So i should choose the studio 17 since ATI 3650 is better?

 

I Believe all the M1530's are shipping with the DDR3 8600 GT's, just be careful when comparing cards that you be very sure both you and the person offering comments is referring to the 8600 with DDR3

 

to be honest i customized the laptop and it doesn't mention if the 8600 is with DDR2 or DDR3. In case it is DDR3, does that make it better than ATI 3650?

 

no i don't think so

 

GeForce 8600 GTS > GeForce 8600 GT GDDR3 > Radeon 2600 XT > Radeon 3650 > Radeon 2600 pro > GeForce 8600 GT DDR2

 

I don't agree with what 11th said
NO doubt this is totally a rank for NV fans

 

The 3650 is better than the DDR2 version of the 8600M GT, but the 8600M GT DDR3 version is at around the same level as the Ati card.

 

Never heard of the 8600GTS.

 

the 8600 gts is a desktop card, the 8600 gts equivalent in laptops is 8700m gt.

 

The 3650 seems to edge out the 8600mGT ddr3, on top of not being an effected GPU for overheating and such. Personally I would go for the studio, but then again unless its an ultraportable or tablet I prefer 17in over other sizes. But just factoring GPUs go for the studio as well.

I would agree with your statement. The 3650 and 8700mGT are about on par.

Actually not all. My 8600mGT is not an effected card.

 

the ATI seems to be slightly better than the 8600GT DDR3, and to my understanding that dell puts the DDR2 on its laptops (atleast 1720 for sure), which makes the ATI a big jump from the 8600 ddr2..

the XPS 1530 may look slightly better, but its seems to be at end of life. and the 17 inch screen does help in games..

somehow some 17' dells aren't effected maybe they get better cooling my 1720 isnt effected either, temps at normal use is 40-50s and full under load reaches mid 60s.

 

Yeah my vostro 17in is basically a business version of your laptop and it runs super cool to boot. Definitely happy, but I wish I had just a little more umph. But then again I do more work then gaming these days and my penryn has what i need now.

 

After looking at the a few reviews of the Studio 17, I've reached the conclusion that its 3650 (GDDR2) is equally or less powerful than the 8600m GT DDR2 and it's less powerful than the 8600m GT GDDR3.

Anyone have any info to prove otherwise?

Dell Studio 17 Reviews (Mobility HD 3650 GDDR2):
NotebookReview Reviewer's gaming results
NotebookCheck
LaptopMag

Inspiron 1720 Reviews (8600M GT DDR2):
NotebookReview
LaptopMag

NotebookReview XPS M1530 Review (8600M GT GDDR3)

^^^Above links include 3Dmark06 and game benchmarks.

 

is there a ddr3 version of the 3650?

 

I'm basing my conclusion on the 3650 being more powerful than the 8600 based on this thread.

Chaz may not provide the technical info on the cards, but the chart is very reliable and is frequently updated based on benchmarks and other tests.

 

The dells 8600's are still DDR2, atleast when I asked them a few days ago. IMO I wouldn't buy a dell until they refresh the **** things, i mean I bought a laptop a year ago with the same 8600, atleast they could put the 9 series in it for cooler cards and higher clocks.

 

The ATi equivilent to an 8600mGT is the 2600. The 3650 is a newer generation, yet all the reviews of the studio 17 have the newer 3650 scoring 400+ less 3dmarks then my 8600mGT ddr2. So Im assuming the 3650 in the dell has ddr2.

 

The DDR2 3650 outperforms the GDDR3 8600m GT by a hair. GDDR3 3650's are rare to say the least. Personally i wouldn't buy a nvidia card that's widely know to be defective, or anything that's known to be defective at all

 

Are you referring to the mobile version of the ATI 3650? If so, do you have any benchmarks to support that claim?

 

Does anyone know how well the 256MB ATI Mobility Radeon HD 3450 in the Dell studio 15s would handled Warhammer Online? That's the game I'm probably gonna be playing the most on it.

 

How much of a performance increase are we looking at, for the 9800m GT and the new GTX?

Let's say you have a laptop with an Intel 9500 and 4GB of good RAM, playing Crysis or something :\

a GT can still manage Crysis at high settings (depending on resolution), so maybe it's not worth the extra money for a GTX?

 

Buy the GT. It's not worth $365 for a <10% increase in performance.

 

Check this site. It has got all specs and benchmarks for mobile videocards.

http://www.notebookcheck.net/NVIDIA-GeForce-9800M-GTX.9919.0.html

 

Thanks.

9800GTX is disappointing... Only a tad bit more powerful than the 8 series.

 

Drivers for the FX770M Quadro card?

 

If your planning on gaming with it then go to laptopvideo2go.com and download the latest forceware drivers. The 177.xx are probably the best ones to start with. There's a sticky at the top of the gaming forum on how to update drivers if you need it

 

I went to drivers and I see 177.92 as the first one. This will work for the 770M?

 

Yes. Make sure to download the "modded inf" aswell. Extract the driver then copy the modded inf into the driver folder, overwrite the old one, then install the driver either through the control panel or by running the setup exe.

 

Simply put, which would be a better gpu for running current games such as cod4 and future games such as diablo 3/ cod5

 

Both offer similar performance, but go for the 9500M GS, since its better to avoid the Geforce 8M Series.

 

both are pretty much the same

 

That depends which version of the 8600GT (GDDR3 or DDR2) you are talking about. The 9500GS sits between the two.

 

Hmm ok, because i may buy a laptop in a few weeks or so and i came across these 2.
Which would be better?




Product Specifications
Model Acer Aspire 5920-6574
Operating System Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium
Processor Intel Core 2 Duo T8100 (3MB L2 Cache, 2.1GHz, 800MHz FSB)
Memory 3GB DDR2
Hard Drive 250GB HDD
Display 15.4" WXGA (1280x800)
Graphics Nvidia 8600GT-M w/ 512MB VRAM
Optical Drive Super Multi DVD-RW-/+
Communications 10/100/1000 Gigabit LAN, Intel WLAN 802.11B/G/N, 56k .92 Modem,
Special Features 5 in 1 Card Reader, Integrated Webcam
Battery 6-Cell
Weight
Warranty 1 Year
Price: $979.00






Product Specifications
Genuine Windows Vista Home Premium,
Processor & Cache Memory
Intel� Core�2 Duo Processor T5750/T5550/T5450/T5250 : 2.0 GHz - 1.5 GHz, 2MB On-Die L2 Cache, FSB 667 MHz
Chipset Mobile Intel� PM965 Express Chipset +ICH8M
Main Memory DDR2 667 MHz SDRAM, 2 x SODIMM socket for expansion up to 4GB SDRAM
*Due to the 32-bit operation system's limitation, only 3GB will show up with a 4GB memory. The 64-bit operating system will not have this issue. For more information, please check Microsoft's support site: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/946003
Display 15.4" WXGA/WXGA+/WSXGA+ Color-Shine (Glare-type),Asus Splendid Video Intelligent Technology
Video Graphics & Memory NVIDIA� GeForce� 9500M GS, 512MB VRAM External 512MB VRAM , TurboCache: 768M with 1G system memory, 1280M with 2G system memory

Price: $1039

 

like others have said its right between the 8600t DDr2 and the 8600GT DDr3 I have the 9500Gs and it runs call of duty 4 on high with 30-35fps!

 

What model is the 2nd laptop? The specs you gave only show the different options available for each component. In terms of graphics alone, however, I'm assuming that the 1st laptop has the ddr2 version of the 8600m GT since it says it's got 512mb of vram. That puts it just a tad slower than the 9500m GS.

 

Whoops
It's a:

ASUS M51SN-C1 Notebook

 

Go for the $1039 one, since I have read alot about the 8M series' Plague

You could wait a bit for the 5930G release (might be priced around $1400), with the P7350 and the 9600M GT DDR3.

Dang its an ASUS

 

Have a look at the gateway M series notebooks with HD2600 GDDR3. Performance should be on par with the cards you listed.

 

I'd much rather have an Asus than an Acer just because of quality.

 

Hm, however the lower priced one has a better processor/hd
but it is a 8600 gddr2

But from what i've heard, asus has better quality, and it comes with a 2 year warranty as well.
Tough descisions

 

But why would you go through the hassle of buying a brand new $200+ CPU and then trying to sell the old one? Honestly, this whole 8M series problem does not seem to be as big of a deal as most people make it out to be. I know a few people who have 8600m GT/GS or 8400m GS and their laptops have been just fine.

 

Go for the ASUS, though upgrading CPUs on ASUS notebooks does void the warranty.

You could check out the Gateway notebooks as well.

 

ewww no. The M51 is pretty...err...''bad''. Build wise it no better than the ACER, what is better is its support. The more expensive M50 would be a much better option in comparison to the M51. But I'd go with the gateway.

 

Acer does not have a bad build quality I have had a few acer desktops that are 3 years old and still workng and I have no problems with my acer aspire 6920!