WHQL Nvidia ForceWare 175.19 - Shader Optimizations

andygb40, does your card still downclock with this driver and johnkss' inf? If i recall correctly, one of the games in which downclocking happens for you is in AoC? I am getting downclock issues with AoC and no manner of driver (from lv2g) I use makes any difference.

 

Basically I can get the same performance at a smaller overclock and lower temperatures than I was getting with 174.16, 174.74, and 175.80.

 

http://www.say-it-loud.com/nv_disp_17519.inf

now supports
8800m gts/gtx
8600m gt
8400m g/gs/gt

 

I had a clear speed up in PES2008 and in flatout2 !
way better than 177.35 for both games (winxp 32)

andygb40: I have a zepto 6224. If you use RMClock for power management, make sure you are in Maximal Performance profile, I found that Performance on Demand causes stuttering

thx for the thread

 

Just installed the driver with the modded inf and my temperature went up 10 degree C. With the old driver i get 50 degree when idling and 70 degree max while gaming. Im going to try again when laptopvideo2go release their inf.

 

which modded inf?

 

The one posted here made by Forerunner.

 

ok. was just wondering.

 

Is it vista 32? I'll post your link on the first post. Just gave you your second rep bubble.

Infs have nothing to do with temperatures. INF basically tell the setup.exe what to install and where to unpack the information from and such. It may have to do with the driver itself but I doubt it. I never found different drivers giving different temperatures. It is probably your comp's bios triggering the fans differently for different games. Some games use the cpu enough to trigger the fans higher while some games barely use the cpu making your gpu hotter.

 

What about performance? What drivers did you use before getting this high temp? Are you sure about what you're saying? Because on my 8700 stock I have the same 70-75 in intense gaming but a noticeably fps improvement.

 

Nvidia just posted the official 177.39. I hear the drivers that officiially support physx for the 8/9 series will be out in july.

 

yes sir. vista 32 bit

now that's what im talking about!! woohoo! sure hope they make it with an on/off switch though. just in case other programs dont like to be forced in one direction... so to speak.

 

I found after installing these drivers there is no longer a 1280x800 option under options in Bioshock. =/ Closest I can get is 1280x720. Anyone else have this problem?

Dont mean to hijack the thread but...
I'm also noticing that after about 5 minutes of gameplay it starts getting a little laggy, I think the g1s peeps call this 'stutter'...maybe my gpu is being downclocked? Is there anyway to eliminate this? I'm only reaching about 88-90C.

 

i still have 1280x800

 

in bioshock? weird, this is the only driver this has happened on

...maybe ill roll back to 174.74.

 

Just have to add a custom resolution.

Which inf are you using? vista 32?

Also for the stuttering. Use rivatuner or similar gpu monitoring program to see if your gpu is downclocking itself.

 

Well, its official, definately 175.19 rock my boxers.

I get an average of 2-3 FPS boost in Oblivion.. (Ultra high 1280x800, all high, even tree fade, int and ext shadows..)

I get an average 10 C less temperature with these
(Usually my gaming sessions go up to 95 C, now they stay on 79-80-85)

I had these benchmarks o 3DM06,
(basic)

525/752 with 177.35 -> 5010
525/752 with 175.19 -> 5019

lolz

cheers @ everyone.
specially @ forerunner

 

posted by johnksss

"http://www.say-it-loud.com/nv_disp_17519.inf

now supports
8800m gts
8800m gtx
8600m gt"

btw, I have the 8600 gt gddr3.

 

Glad it worked out for you. Happy gaming!

I'll get an inf up for you. There you go. Try this one.

 

Thanks...

How do you convert a .doc to .inf?

 

you don't, all you have to do is to rename it.

 

Just change the file type. Right click rename, then move using right arrow and replace doc with inf and press enter.

 

Some silly folk still hide extensions for known file types in Windows. Those poor souls.

 

check out this guys boost in speed... not sure what to make of it.... cpu jumped to the outer limits, while gpu stay pretty close to where it was before....
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=80694&stc=1&d=1213931661

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=80695&stc=1&d=1213931681

edit: but now im starting to understand... still reading up on it.....

 

thanks johnkss for the inf a few pages back it worked great

 

no problem, glad it worked out

 

While i wish this were true but it is not Have tried this amongst many other "fixes" and no luck with the down clocking.

Of course i posted this reply without reading beyond that page, heh. Actually it was fine last night but today it down clocked I will give your inf a shot johnksss and see it that fixes the dc issue.

If this does work Johnksss could i also get a modded inf for an 8400m GS ? You guys do good work, (Forerunner & Johnksss) keep it up.

 

hopefully it should work. if not...let me know...and ill see what else i can come up with

 

lol. that was it. thanks.

 

You could always try, in the save as dialog, select the file type from doc to "all files" and then just name the file to nv_disp.inf, it'll save it automatically into inf.

 

Doesn't seem to be downclocking itself. It's very smooth for the first couple minutes then there's noticeable skipping. =0

 

8600 stuttering issue maybe? Though I have no idea because i've never experienced that. Did your card skip before/

also 1280 x 800 works now?

 

Hi, I've been reading this forum for some time(and that basically is all I've been doing ), but I decided to sign in and write something here because apparently there is someone else who's having the same problem as me.

This IS my problem - everything runs fine, in fact noticeably better than with my old driver, then a few minutes later the game starts stuttering pretty badly. I have a Toshiba X205 SLI1, so I assume that my setup is similar to plattnnum's, as far as the gpu side of it goes.
One thing I also noticed is that stuttering seems to get worse when SLI is enabled. Something similar happens in other drivers I fiddled with, but the 175.19 I downloaded seems to be struggling even more.

I might also add that the recent drivers by Nvidia disables powermizer when SLI is on. I watched how clocks changed with Rivatuner, but absolutely no change occurs and the clocks stay at the "performance" level the whole time. When I disable SLI, powermizer does work like it's supposed to... Such a shame

Well, I just wanted to introduce my case to contribute somewhat. Maybe someone else is having a similar problem?

 

does this happen with all your games? if so, can you pick one that will run in windows mode. make the window small enough for you to run cpuz and gpuz on the side. watch to see if one or both drop in speed.

 

What program should I use for observing CPU activity? I can run Rivatuner for gpu, but I have no idea about such a tool for cpu.

 

http://www.cpuid.com/
get cpuz and hwmonitor from there.

http://www.techpowerup.com/gpuz/
get gpuz from here.

these are small fast loading programs and seem to be on point with voltage/temps/speeds

 

i have the toshiba x205 but no sli. it is 8700mGT and as far as i know everythingn works fine but i only play a select few games such as css and tf2. i did however have ur problem in the game mass effect where after about 20-30 minutes the game started stuttering as u say. haven't found out why this happens in that game but i play tf2 for hours on end without that happening.

 

Thanks for your guide johnksss, I just ran Bioshock for about 20 minutes until it started stuttering. No sign of downclock for either cpu or gpu, both my gpus were at full throttle.
One thing I noticed, though, is that the game started stuttering just about when one of the gpus reached 90 degree celsius. I once suspected the excess heat to be the cause of it all, now I'm more inclined to believe that it actually is.

Time to clean the vents, perhaps?

Oh, a note for plattnnum: I wasn't able to select 1280 x 800 either. Strange, because the driver offers this resolution, and yet I can't select it in Bioshock...
Let me also add that the option came back once I added a custom resolution, and that I experienced the worst stuttering ever with this resolution

 

Stuttering from heat is possible. Cleaning the vent's coudlnt hurt.

Did you try my modded one for 1280 x 800 ? One page back. Try that one.

 

I tried that one too, but still no 1280 x 800. How different is it than the original one you posted?

 

I added custom res for it. Weird that inf worked for mass effect when I didnt have 1280 x 800.

 

did you also try the one i posted as well?

 

I rolled back to 174.74....maybe i'll give this driver a shot after a little more research.

 

Sorry I had to run out last night and couldn't specify.
I'm running Vista 32 bit.

Will this cover me?

http://www.say-it-loud.com/nv_disp_17519.inf

 

it should do for you.

 

does this driver perform better than 177.35? I think its a bit slower. Anyone else with this observation?

 

Only slightly slower, but it gives a better look to the game when I play WiC. Still going to keep it for now as it does work better and I run slightly cooler with these, which might be why they run slightly slower.

 

what are your global setting at now andy?

 

Wow right on! Glad to hear from another owner of the x205 sli1.

Well I don't understand what yall mean by stuttering. is it like dropping below 24 frames per second? cause as far as I can tell on my x205 sli1 with fraps enabled I get a consistent 60 fps which ocasionally drops to 25 with smoke and like 20 guys fire fighting on screen with maxed out graphics settings in COD4. To me it's awesome having two gpus backing each other up.

So far I'm still sticking to these drivers because of the score I got on 3dmark6 and because it fixed my other strategy game with the corrupted graphics if set to max shaders. I can't really tell if it makes my first person shooters smoother cause all of them run at high frames per second at max settings even with the 174.31 drivers, but as far as it downclocking I don't think I notice that at all. I play 3 to 5 hours straight and no slow downs. Anyway what is powermizer and how can I access it to see what all the fuss is about.

 

I reset it to the default settings in the Advanced section of the nv control panel. Using "Quality" in the predefined caused aa to go to 8x and overide any app. which is okay except I don't like to watch a slide show when gaming. All in all I noticed a good improvement in these compared to the 174's I was using before, but they seem to be slightly slower than 177's as I mentioned. But I can live with that as the visual's are better. By slightly slower I mean 2-3fps across the board, so nothing drastic. Just to think I was going to give up on new drivers until you solved my issues. It seems that because you used the "%NVIDIA_G84.DEV_0407.1% = nv_G8x," in the inf it works whereas Forerunner used the "%NVIDIA_G84.DEV_0407.1% = mobile_nv_NV3x,". All of lv2go's infs also use Forerunners settings in their inf's.