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    What game are you playing now?

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by HTWingNut, Jan 28, 2016.

  1. TheDantee

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    Black Desert Online

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    Visiting my parents.
     
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    finally playing HAWX 2 with a controller.....amazingly great game
     
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    Started playing Rage at glorious 120Hz with id5 Tweaker. Still a lot of technical quirks remaining in this 6 year old game.

    Interestingly, the 64-bit version runs significantly better than 32-bit for me, even though there are no graphical differences.

    64-bit can lock 120 FPS with 16x AA enabled. But 32-bit requires dropping down to 8x AA to achieve 120. In id Tech 5 games, 16x AA is a combination of 4x SSAA + 4x MSAA, so it looks significantly better than 8x MSAA.

    The annoying thing is, Steam Achievements are disabled in 64-bit Rage.

    Also, CUDA transcode only works in 32-bit. In 64-bit, enabling/disabling GPU Transcode doesn't alter the benchmark score. GPU Transcode reduces performance and causes microstutter in 32-bit though, so it's better to have it disabled anyway, unless your CPU is much weaker than your GPU.

    Edit: There's this new setting, Texture Detail, that they must've added in a later patch. And HOLY CRAP it utterly annihilates performance. Like Witcher 2 Ubersampling levels of annihilation. Having Textue Detail enabled drops me from 120 down to 20-30 FPS with massive texture pop-ins and CPU spikes to 100% on all 8 threads (!) when turning the camera. As far as I can tell, all it does is apply a post-process sharpening to the entire image, which makes the game look much noisier and worse, so I'm not sure why it's so demanding. I can achieve the same result using LumaSharpen in ReShade, without the huge FPS drop.
     
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    Yet another reason why Warframe is a better game than Destiny.
     
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    Bah, I'm still voting with my wallet. DLC equals no buy until it's all available as a package for half of the retail cost of the original game alone. That way I get what I should have had in the first place and was totally willing to pay full price for but didn't. Maybe if enough people do it they'll start to pay attention. That said I had read that D3 has actually become fun over the somewhat more than a year I hadn't played it. Turns out they were right, it is kind of fun nowadays. Just the right amount of grind versus reward and a lot of fun play styles are on tap. Did I mention that no corporate scumbag inserted DLC into it? :)
     
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    Dying Light: Definitive Edition
     
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    I had a lot of fun playing Rage, I rather liked it. Having an SSD was critical for that game due to texture streaming, it required super fast I/O. (Super fast back then was SATA SSD..). What kind of drive are you using? Does it have low CPU usage? I doubt this is a problem these days.. probably just the asset streaming trying to deal with loading super large assets if you have some super high res texture pack installed (or is it truly just super-sampling?).

    The fun of Rage wasn't really the raw graphics anyway, it's probably still decently fun without trying to internally render at 8K. :)

    My wife is reading a book with the yule log in the background, I think this affords me the perfect opportunity to dig into Wolf II some more.
     
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    I have Rage installed on a 7200 RPM HDD, but the texture cache is in %localappdata% which is on my SSD. I doubt moving the game to SSD is worth it, since load time is really fast and I'm not getting much drive activity while playing. There's no texture streaming stutter, and no pop-in at all unless it drops below 60 FPS. CPU usage is about 50% at 120 FPS.

    No texture pack is installed (are there any out there for Rage?). The Texture Detail option is just a sharpening filter, although you would think it's supersampling given how much it rapes performance, but it's not.

    I'm running the game at 1080p with 16xS HSAA (4x OGSSAA + 4x MSAA), not at 8K. It looks really sharp at these settings, perhaps a bit too sharp since Rage seems to force a really low negative LOD bias by default, so distant textures shimmer a lot. Looks like I need to clamp LOD bias in the Nvidia driver. Up close textures are very blurry as is typical for id Tech 5.

    I guess the reason I'm focusing so much on graphics is that the gameplay is underwhelming LOL. Super linear, lots of barriers and invisible walls, dull/cliche characters and rote storyline, and the gunplay is unsatsifying because enemies are bullet sponges at Ultra Nightmare difficulty.
     
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    LOL. This game has funny bugs sometimes:

    [​IMG]
     
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    Finished Eternal Darkness, playing back through the Portal games again.
     
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    im late but I started the witcher 3 wild hunt. never thought id like this type of game, however this is really good..im curious about what happens next and what the wild hunt is...

    so far im impressed
     
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    I'm jealous of anyone that hasn't played it yet. Awesome game.

    I'm toggling between AC:U, Wolf II, and I just got finished making more progress in Prey. I think I'm just going to stick with Prey and finish that off. See if I can get through it while I'm on vac this week.
     
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    I never really got that far into Witcher 3. Too time consuming and gets boring after a while just roaming around aimlessly. Go ahead, shoot me for that statement. I've restarted it numerous times, only to get lost or bored just wandering through fields trying to find the right freaking ingredients to craft this or that, or not quite understanding the mission objectives.
     
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    what are some good upcoming games to get excited about, besides far cry 5 which looks amazing btw.
     
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    Then you will be totally lost in Witcher 2. The maps are too much confusing than W3.
    I finished it in a month and started playing W2, GTA V, Watch Dogs 2.
     
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    hows watch dogs 2....worth buying ?
     
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    i can't get it to hold 60fps so i just max it out and run it at 30fps.
     
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    I bought hawx 2 too!!! But it was a disc install... and i have no disc drivers... its not available on steam as well =/
     
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    That doesn't tell us if it's fun or not. :)
     
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    It's fun even at 30fps cos I like the look of the San Francisco fog.

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    Lol.. I have it, got it free for purchasing 1080 notebook. Too many damn games in the backlog and I still haven't bought D:OS2..
     
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    Why should we shoot you? It's your opinion. I respectfully disagree with it (except time consuming, that is true, have hundreds of hours in that game), but it is how you see it.
    Surprising you got lost though, because TW3 holds your hand a lot. Now TW1 or even TW2 on the other hand...

    Started playing Black Mesa. Surprising to see that they made some interesting changes since the last time I played it as a mod.
     
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    From my experience, all those changes have been for the better. I was very disappointed with the free version considering how long it was in development but very much enjoyed the paid update.

    I'm currently playing Shenmue 2 using the demul emulator. The quality of the emulator has improved markedly over the last year or so. The game plays extremely well, with far fewer glitches than I experienced in pervious builds. There are some audio hiccups, though I think that's more due to the source disc image, which is the Dreamcast game (obviously) that's had the English audio from the Xbox version spliced into it. But considering the fact that I've worn out two Dreamcast GD-ROM drives playing my physical copy of Shenmue 2, these are compromises I'm more than willing to live with.
     
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    Personally I loved the mod too. And I thought it was one of the better FPS games released around time.
     
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    Never really bothers me, then again I'm one of those people that goes hundreds of hours in Skyrim without touching the main questline.
     
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    I just think my outlook on gaming has changed. I enjoy games, just hesitant to put too much time into them if I feel like I'm spinning my wheels. I used to like deep games, like flight sims and long drawn out RTS type games and open world adventures. But now due to time limitations, I want most "bang for my buck". If I get an hour to play, I want to have an action packed hour. Not spending most of it travelling from point A to point B and forget what I was doing by the next time I fire it up again a couple days later.

    But, first world problems.

    Giving PUBG another try. Already own it, so why not. They did clean up the release version a bit, graphically, but still same core issues exist: rubberbanding, low tick rate with client side hit detection is wonky as hell, odd vehicle physics and damage when entering or exiting vehicles, delayed "F" key presses to open and close doors and pick up items.
     
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    I went from mostly action packed gaming to just wanting to wander around a world, and occasionally fight some dudes.
     
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    I have unlimited free time....and still dont game much

    my typical day of gaming is benchmarking games with various settings....plop in a game for 5 min close it repeat 3 times and thats it.....games just are not very fun these days


    edit i played witcher for about 45min.....whooooo whoooooo a new record.....imagine its fun for youngsters but the older you get the passion slowly fades with all the problems of gaming on pc...glitches, driver failures, BSOD, ect
     
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    I can't say as I've experienced any of these in recent memory despite putting 15-20 hours a week into games on my PC.
     
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    So like the guy that tunes his car all the time but it has more dyno miles than street miles? :)
     
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    yeah exxactly....I just don't get it I used to love to game
     
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    Tastes change. I used to mod more than game, now I just download other peoples' mods because they mean less game time. I have less to work with so I have to make it count.
     
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    Side from my wifi adapter driver I have none of those issues. For years..
     
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    Not just me. Good. :)

    But seriously, for all practical purposes overclocking = unstable platform. Overclocked CPU? Crashes within minutes or hours. Overclocked GPU? Crashes within minutes or hours. Stock everything with maybe a small undervolt? Stable for years.

    So yeah, I think @Tanner@XoticPC has the right of it: you ( @JRE84) have become so (dare I say given your description) obsessed with benchmark scores and frame rates that you've lost sight of what's important: having fun playing a game for the sake of enjoyment.
     
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    Not if you make the effort to find stable overclock settings. ;)
     
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    Many beers for you sir. It's all about the games. For me anyway. I could care less what my benchmark scores are as long as my games are running to my satisfaction and I am stable.

    I do understand the fun people have doing a bunch of work to chase benchmark scores, that's can be a game in it's own right. That's just not me.
     
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    That's exactly my point. Once you start down that road you can end up spending more time trying to find faster stable overclock settings and chasing benchmark leaderboard positions than you do playing games. I know. I was there for a while. And then I realized how stupid I was for spending close to $3K on a gaming notebook and not playing games on it.
     
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    Heh, a 20% GPU overclock is nothing to scoff at if it means the difference between a mostly locked 60 FPS and a variable 45-55 FPS in a demanding game like Deus Ex: Mankind Divided.
     
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    HFM so you have been using 1 video card driver for 3 years...makes sense i believe it :p

    if you havent well then you have experienced glitches in games as with all nvidia releases you will have some games work and some not.. never ever evr do you get drivers that work with all games available so its a lottery about which games you play and the drivers you have. for example i just downloaded the newest nvidia drivers and all games worked. except crysis warhead.....reverted and artifacts and glitches are gone. pc gaming is far from a smooth everything just works experience.....this is why millions of consoles are sold each year...my dad for example has no idea why i dont just get a xbox and play games via tv....i explain to him the problems are out weighed by versatility of pc games aka mods....gta v for example has mods that make the game 10 times more enjoyable and look 10 times better....this idea behind having cutting edge graphics and versatility in mods ect is the only reason pc gaming well one big reason as to why people even bother....that and backwards compatability.
     
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    Playing loads of Killing Floor 2 at the moment and some good old classic Duke 3D

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    Orwell: Keeping an Eye On You
    http://store.steampowered.com/app/491950/Orwell_Keeping_an_Eye_On_You/

    "Big Brother has arrived - and it’s you. Investigate the lives of citizens to find those responsible for a series of terror attacks. Information from the internet, personal communications and private files are all accessible to you. But, be warned, the information you supply will have consequences."

    RECENT REVIEWS: Very Positive (76)
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    RELEASE DATE: 27 Oct, 2016
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    Orwell: Ignorance is Strength
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    "Step into the shoes of a government official in a top-secret department of the Orwell surveillance program. Given the power to both uncover and fabricate "the truth", how far will you go in the service of your country? Season 2 of Orwell, the award-winning surveillance thriller."

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    Going Episodic & An Update on Orwell: Ignorance is Strength
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    "DECEMBER 17 - ITERATION D
    "We’re really sorry we haven’t updated you in awhile. We’ve been working hard on the development of Orwell: Ignorance is Strength, and had actually hoped to have the game out by now. But as the narrative and mechanics came together, we realised that delivering the experience we want you to have is going to take a little extra time.

    Here’s why..."
     
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    Giving subnautica another go, not in VR this time (runs really wonky in the Vive).
     
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    Yes, it is. And I will scoff at it.

    Scoff.

    Because it doesn't matter. I've yet to see any single-player game or co-operative game made better because moarfps once it reaches some minimum threshold, usually 24-30 frames per second. You could argue visual aesthetics but how "good" a game looks has never been a gauge of whether or not the game is fun to play. You could argue that moarfps are needed in competitive shooters and the like because response times and latency and what-not but since I think these games can die in fires I scoff again.

    Scoff.

    So if you just can't stand Deus Ex wobbling between 45 and 55 frames per second, which I do understand because that kind of inconsistency triggers my CDO, too, then cap it at the minimum frame rate you get. Problem solved.
     
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    Go back to consoles.
     
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    20% is no joke. But yes there is a point of diminishing returns, obviously depends on the individual. For me above 60-70 FPS I have a hard time discerning. I do admit though that 144Hz displays do look buttery smooth if your machine can manage such high FPS. But for me it's all about minimum FPS. If you get frequent dips into 30-40 FPS territory it can ruin the experience. This is why I like G-sync so much though. Run consistently at 60-90 FPS, with occasional dips into 40's territory is barely noticeable with G-sync. There's no skipped frames, or extended frame delays when the FPS dips well below the native Hz of the screen.
     
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