What game are you playing now?

No. You have no right and no business telling me where to go play the games I want to play.

 

Oh so you were being serious? I thought your whole post was a "humans can't see above 24 FPS" meme.

 

You're absolutely correct. Warframe for example looks amazing on my Deimos and external 144Hz panel. Thing is, Warframe is just as fun on my Surface with the frame rate capped at 30. It doesn't look amazing with the settings turned down but it's still the same game.

For what it's worth I usually draw the line at about 15 frames per second. Less than that and games feel too choppy for my tastes. I'll cut down on eye candy to get the frame rate up or just not play at all on that system.

 

Yes, I was being (and am being) serious. Rendering a game faster than some minimum of playability does not make it a better or more fun game.

And no, the meme is stupid because human eyes don't work that way.

 

OK so right back at you, pal. Don't tell me what my minimum playable frame rate is.

 

I didn't. I described my experience.

 

Um don't take this the wrong way, but I really don't care about your experience with such low standards. All I said was a GPU overclock made some games more playable and enjoyable for me, and you kinda ran off with that and started preaching for some reason.

 

My super short review of Sniper 4= Not particularly good but I enjoyed the crap out of it. Figure 10ish hours in campaign if you don't run and gun, much less if you do. Replay is good because the mechanic is really just setting up your shots and taking them. I'd call it a buy on sale.

 

just finished Xenoblade chronicles 2 on the switch, damn i enjoyed it a lot, 95hrs and i still had a heap of side quests unfinished. its probably been my favourite game on the switch so far, probably going to pick up tiny Metal (reminds me of advanced wars) for the system over the next couple days

 

Started playing "They Are Billions" yesterday. Very good RTS. Only $22.49 on Steam right now.

 

I never thought I'd like the Sniper games, but damn, Sniper 3 and 4 were both fun as hell.

 

To be fair, you posed a problem: how to keep a game's frame rate from fluctuating between 45 and 55 frames per second. I proposed a solution: cap the game at 45 frames per second. This solves the problem without destabilizing the system or requiring the expenditure of potentially many hours tuning the system which could be spent playing the game instead.

The only thing I'm preaching about is the simple fact that making a game run faster than some minimum of playability does not make it a better game. Moarfps is just another form of eye candy. There's nothing wrong with eye candy. I just have better things to do with my time than try to squeeze out every last drop.

Like actually playing games.

 

This does not solve the problem. Frame rates between factors of the refresh rate on a fixed Hz display cause unsmooth frame pacing. That's why console games lock to 30 if a 60 FPS target is unfeasible, and why G-Sync/FreeSync exists.

 

This is why I like having a gsync 4K panel. Prey is absolutely stunning at 4K and the framerate is pretty damn smooth. I have yet to play any games at 4K that I am not happy with the performance, gameplay, and graphics. Stock clocks.

If someone wants to spend time overclocking and tweaking, that's their business, more power to them I wish them happiness and success. I may dive into that when I am no longer happy with how a game I want to play is performing. I haven't been in that boat yet.

More than likely I'll just buy a new GPU or more likely a whole new notebook when that happens. That's what I've been doing all long at any rate. I expect much like my previous upgrades I'll skip the "11" series and I'll end up buying something from the "12" series or whatever that generation ends up being.. probably sometime in 2019 or 2020.

So far i've done
Radeon 5730 in 2010
nVidia 6 series in 2012
nvidia 8 series in 2014
nvidia 10 series in 2017

Every time I've started to be a little unhappy with performance I've just bought a new notebook. I'm extremely happy at the moment (if I can just stop the software related BSODs, which I think I have a handle on finally).

 

Bought AC: Origins on Steam sale. While it's visually stunning, I didn't much care for the gameplay, so I'm getting it refunded. In its place, I picked up Project Cars 2, mostly because Road America is one of the courses, and it's one I've driven in real life numerous times.

 

Then lock it at 30 frames.

This problem exists because game developers consistently fail to implement proper triple buffering in their games. They use DirectX render ahead because it's easy. It's not triple buffering. This failure is what causes tearing when vsync is off and input lag when vsync is on. G-Sync (especially) and FreeSync are just cash grabs taking advantage of lazy developers. Think I'm joking? Tom Peterson from nVidia is on record saying that they weren't charging enough for G-Sync when it first came out:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/jasone...ch-is-superior-to-amds-freesync/#3964ab2d18d5

Also, consoles lock to 30 fps not because a 60 fps target is unfeasible. Because the HDTV specifications specify 1080p@30Hz as the highest resolution. PS4 and Xbone support 1080p@60Hz if they detect displays with this capability but the hardware support does mean games support it. Many games don't. But they all do 1080p@30Hz because that's a guaranteed common denominator.

 

Um no. Just take one of the many examples. The new TW3 patch, running in performance mode with an unlocked frame rate, proves that even the X1X does not have the CPU grunt to approach anything close to 60 FPS in Novigrad:

 

Looking at that video in full screen on my 144Hz monitor, I honestly cannot see any difference between the 4K or Performance mode. If there is a difference, it seems like it might be too subtle and insignificant to care about. But, maybe YouTube butchers the video too much to tell the difference.

 

Exactly. Also you don't have a 4K display.

 

Nor do I even want one. I do not care for 4K and have no use for it. I have used a number of notebooks with 4K before and hated every one of them. Thankfully, I never spent my own money on such miserable screens.

 

What are you trying to refute here. The fact that 1080p@30Hz is the highest resolution in the official HDTV specifications? The fact that this is an ubiquitous frame rate target for every console capable of HDTV output? The fact that even though the consoles support higher output resolutions it is up to individual game developers whether or not to try and target those higher resolutions? The fact that many game developers don't try to target higher resolutions and instead cap at 1080p@30Hz?

 

The worse part of 4K is they are limited to 60Hz. So even if you decide to play 1080p you're still limited to 60Hz until you hit tearing.

 

4K on a small laptop screen doesn't make much sense to me. A 4K HDR TV in a home theater setup makes more sense IMO.

"consoles lock to 30 fps not because a 60 fps target is unfeasible"

Here's another example, a Bungie dev stating that Destiny 2 can't run at 60 FPS on consoles because console CPUs are too weak: http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2017-why-cant-destiny-run-at-60fps-on-ps4-pro

 

So as per you guys 4K is buying useless


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Utter crap. Because here's a list of PS4 games that deliver 1080p@60Hz or higher:
http://www.videogamerplus.com/2014/09/60-fps-native-1080p-ps4-games-list.html

What that developer is actually saying is, paraphrased, "we knowingly chose to make and deliver a game that exceeds the target platforms' capabilities and we are blaming that hardware for being weak so we don't look bad for making that choice." In other words, it's an example of my assertion. Destiny 2 is locked at 30 not because the hardware can't deliver 60 but because the developer chose not to deliver 60.

 

That list is deceiving (should really be called "unlocked frame rate up to 60 FPS games" because most of those games don't keep a stable 60 per DF analyses.

I mean, isn't that what the Destiny 2 dev said? They could make it 60 FPS on consoles, but it would require dumbing down the game. If you read between the lines, it's just a roundabout way of saying that console hardware is too weak. But we all knew that already.

 

Yeah, on a big screen for watching movies and stuff it's probably fine. I will probably never know because I am not willing to pay the premium for it, and I am not dissatisfied with 1080p for TV/movie viewing.

Opinions are mixed on 4K laptop displays. There is not much middle ground and it's generally a love versus hate thing. Neither one is right, just a matter of personal preference. The most important thing to know is NEVER buy 4K based on someone else's recommendation. You need to use a laptop with a 4K screen for at least a couple of days to see if you can tolerate it or not. It's generally fine for image quality, but on any screen less than about 24-inches, reading text is downright horrible unless you jack the scaling up to 200% and have what amounts to a high pixel density 1080p display with a 60Hz refresh rate cap and a game-crippler. At 200% scaling, one of the most compelling features of 4K is lost (screen real estate). At 200% scaling, many applications not specifically designed for 4K are screwed up, with file and folder menus that have text truncated and other aesthetic atrocities.

So, if you do not know someone that will loan you their 4K notebook for a few days, get something from a local big box store with a liberal return policy, like Best Buy or Microcenter, take it home and use it for a couple of days, then return it for a refund if you end up hating it.

 

No, but that's probably what he wants you to think he said.

Destiny 2 is a console game. If it were a port from PC then I could understand the assertion about making the game less on the lesser systems. But this is a game that Bungie made specifically for the PS4 and XB1 consoles and then ported to PC. They consciously made this game to be more demanding than their chosen target platforms could handle. Then they blamed those consoles for being too weak to run their game as justification for locking their game at 30 frames.

And so I stand by my assertion: It's not the hardware. It's the developers.

 

not sure what all that has to do with "what game are you playing now" anyhow, i picked up tiny metal for the switch and will give that a good run over the course of the next week.

 

Danganronpa 2: Goodbye Despair (Steam version).
Just finished the first chapter. On the one hand, the class trials are more challenging than the first game. On the other hand, the characters, the murders and especially the executions are kinda absurd as opposed to merely over the top like they are in the first game.

Tiny Metal may or may not be on my to play list. Right now I have two very long games on my Switch: Xenosaga 2 and Disgaea 5 Complete. So, no idea what or when the next course there will be.

 

I agree with you on the executions, and I'll also tell you they don't get any better as the game progresses. However, I did think the mysteries were the best of the series, especially the final twist. That being said, Goodbye Despair is my least favorite entry in the franchise.

 

I know. I played it on Vita when it first came out in the US so this is a re-play for me. It's been long enough since I played it (and the first game) that the details are gone from my brane so the surprises are surprising again.

 

so far im really enjoying Tiny metal, its so simular to advanced wars for an old timer like myself i have a constant grin on my face, ill let you know when i get further into the game if im still enjoying it.

 

I picked up a few games of steam while the winter sale was on, namely Cuphead, GTA V, HollowKnight and Transistor, ive got enough to keep me going for the next wee while.

 

Uncharted: Lost Legacy, Xenoblade Chronicles 2 and AC: Origins.

 

Picked up some games during the Steam sale, some I started others not yet. Main things I got and have been playing are Cuphead and Mount your Friends, also grabbed Black Mesa which I will be starting soon. I never actually made it through HL1 so hopefully with a little more up to date version I can play all the way through.

 

Played for a couple of hours Warframe. Good gameplay, though too boring and repetitive for my taste...

 

I played it a while back, my experience was about the same. I think if any of my friends played I'd have kept with it, but I didn't find it very PUG friendly back then.

 

Well, it *is* a horde shooter. Which is to say: there are hordes of enemies and you shoot them. But then, there are a lot of different mission types, and lots of fun and crazy weapons and powers with which to shoot, slice, smash, and otherwise kill said hordes. With a few exceptions there is at least one of each mission type on each planet in the system.

As for pugging things, getting a squad of randos can be great or terrible or in between. It's... kinda random, for good or bad. But most mission types can be soloed once you've upgraded some of your gear and built up a decent set of mods.

One thing it isn't is pay to win. It is pay to win faster. Aside from cosmetics, paying real money gets you stuff faster than you would get by grinding for it but it won't get you anything you couldn't get from grinding. We sometimes call it "Warfarm" for a reason .

 

Strange hearing this from you.
You seem to like Destiny 2, but are indifferent towards Warframe, and two are very similar type of games.

 

A fair point. I think I may have been hasty with my D2 praise to be honest, and it has been a long time since I played Warframe, so I might have to revisit it and see what it's like now. As I mentioned I think most of my issue was less than great PUG experience and the people in my gaming circle not playing it. Neither of those really came up with D2 (played with co-workers and when I didn't it still seemed like the other randos I played with with were halfway awake and not griefing. That said, I'm starting to feel like D2 wants me to play with a controller instead of KB/M and everything happens slowly. I love the aesthetic, the maps, the music, the general feel of the game, but at least part of that is nostalgia from 1, and it's starting to get harder for me to pick it back up.

 

I should give it another chance, it has been a while.

 

Heroes Of The Storm, Rsing Storm 2.

 

How's Heroes lately? I haven't played in a dog's age.

 

Got a couple PC games for Christmas: Hollow Knight, Sonic Forces, and Universe Sandbox 2. That, plus Mario + Rabbid Kingdom on the Switch, will keep me busy for some time.

Yet for some, reason I found myself playing Civ VI today after a several-month break. Go figure.

 

Just ended with AC: Origins.
Time to end with Xenoblade Chronicles 2 & Uncharted: Lost Legacy and go for NieR: Automata.

 

When not playing Destiny 2 or FFXIV:ARR, I’m still banging my head against the wall with Cuphead.

 

I'm going to be trying more Escape from Tarkov now that it is out of alpha testing. If anyone wishes to join me, add me on discord (LoneSyndal#1941) or "Orsted" on EFT/BSG.

 

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