Yeah there's a lot of heavy hitters here afa hardware that's for sure lol
One thing that always bothered me about Gears 5 is that they wear this badass armor right, but no helmets? Come on just have auto cover helmets when in battle but I don't see an option. I did get back into it a bit yesterday and although it keeps your attention it does get a bit grindy fighting at times. He# of a ride though. The DLC are decent but short from what I remember. Pretty, but not the best graphics, at least at my settings 1080p 90fps capped, mostly high. Haven't tried 2k/60 yet to see if it gets better. Potato can run it afaik, good on them, FH4 and this are surprisingly good by M$ studio, when it doesn't do an infinite loading loop.
Chernobylite, uh well I don't want to spoil it but time/memory do over choices are a bit tedious, I guess I "lost" at some point and can/must go back idk. Still gorgous graphics and decent if clunky mechanics. Weird brit english voiceovers, recommend ukranian voices and just english subs. Was thinking of getting back into Kingdom Come Deliverance. Also doing TW3 HOS DLC.
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I liked playing Gears 5 but the controls could be better.
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Didn't have a problem with the controls but I always use a gamepad to save my non replaceable keyboard, most games are designed for gamepads to start with anyways.
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What's going on here? where is my system's bottleneck?
The game is Star Wars: Jedi Fallen Order, and there are certain spots where I get less than 144 fps, but I can't identify the bottleneck:
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uh huh cuz 144hz is important in a 3rd person game......i understand twitch shooters
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Um, that's a bit rich considering your phone is 120hz...
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Well I mostly play third person games, and I can tell the difference between 144 fps and 72 fps (which would be my second best vsync option). The problem with the fps going below 144 fps is the micro-stuttering which I can live with to a certain point if my PC can't get higher fps, but in this game there isn't a valid reason for fps below 144 on my system. I just fail to see where is the bottleneck
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So can I and I think anyone would feel the same after using a high refresh setup for a while. That's a huge difference in how smooth everything moves...
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Especially at 60hz, 75hz is much smoother than 60hz in my view but of course higher tends to be better off in most cases except for maybe emulators where game engines are tied to frame rate.
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?its 3rd person?
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I don't know how it is now but that game didn't run smoothly on anything when it first came out, I can't remember any terrible problems on my playthrough though. What about just turning down some settings?
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Poolians, yahoo pool on steroids..
I miss yahoo pool but this will do
my record is like 88 wins 44 losses
highly recommend you guys check it out.....its really fun once you get the hang of it
https://www.poolians.com/
another game im tinkering with is THPS 1 + 2 remastered
The graphics are pretty dang good and the old tony hawk brings back alot of good memories skateboarding in life and in the game..really fun and challenging..very well done and easily worth the 50 bucks as you get great graphics in two games...and an editor to make your own levels.Last edited: Aug 17, 2021 -
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Humankind.
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I'm liking Humankind, especially that its free on Game Pass. I just need some more time playing to understand what I'm doing. I just made it to the Ancient era.killkenny1 likes this.
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Ditto, for now just randomly playing around. Liking it so far, especially how it's geared towards exploration.Atma likes this. -
Currently enjoying The Ascent. Pretty cool game.
You are always poo pooing high refresh rate gaming, while having no experience with it.unlogic likes this. -
I think that is on Game Pass now. I might try it tomorrow. I'm getting a back log of new games to play.
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kevin...i do have a s21ultra that runs most games at 120hz...it was a hunch after serious reading...and well some are sensitive too it others are not..for me it just feels a touch faster but not worth gunning for...however elitist gamers i can see why they want 300fps its better no doubt but to the masses its just not the mainstream boost were looking for hence games like forza horizon 5 running at 30/60hz...like the console gamers are the norm not elitist pc gamers.
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We've had high refresh panels for 10 years on laptops and wouldnt be surprised if it was longer.
No one is arguing for 300hz for the masses, it was one person here asking why the game doesnt seem to behave well on his/her 144hz panel to which you state its 3rd person and you shouldnt bother with high refresh to begin with because in your opinion its only "beneficial" in twitch shooters.
You are not on a console forum, but NBR where more people are more peculiar with their systems than even the standard desktop user. More to the point, I doubt you speak for that entire market. If there was no interest in high refresh panels as a principled argument then an economies of scale corporation like Dell wouldnt have been supplying 1080p120hz and 1440p120hz panels since I think 2012 in their Alienware division.
Saying that its not worth it for you is a perfectly amicable position to hold, but saying its not worth it because you dont value it is a flawed outlook. If Geforce now is your go to then of course having input lag of 8ms or lower is not something you value. Which again is a perfectly amicable opinion.Porter likes this. -
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The Chronicles of Riddick: Assault on Dark Athena + Escape from Butcher Bay. Playing the latter portion. Can't get it on Steam or GOG anymore, but glad I have it, since it's fun.
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Just bought a >$3k gaming laptop, and so far I have played...ahem...Minecraft w/ RTX.
Pathetic, I know.
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I never finished that game, man I recall what I did play of it was good though. I can't remember why I never finished it.Vaardu likes this.
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Yeah, the high refresh rate on third person games is beneficial as you get a much smooth camera movement, also less blurry image on movement. It totally worth it IMO in that context. It's not like in first person shooter games where you get an actual gaming edge with a high refresh monitor, but it makes gaming experience more enjoyable to me. Also to be honest I don't see much difference from 100 to 144 Hz on gaming third person games, but under 90 Hz I see the blurriness.
Well I updated my Nvidia drivers and that helped, also changed my refresh rate to 120 Hz for the sake of having more consistent experience since it's easier for my system to do constant 120 fps. But yes, that game has serious issues when loading new parts of the map. It stutters no matter what you do or what settings you run the game at. I assumed that I'll suffer that "engine" stutter, but the rest of the game seems to be running at 120 fps. Also something is going on with the 30-series that a lot of people report having low GPU usage. Maybe future drivers will help
Also some games are just broken beyond fix. Like Batman Arkham Knight. Sometimes you move the camera and the frame rate decrease a little bit, lets say from 120 fps to 100 fps for a split of a second then the frame rate stabilize again to 120 fps. But that split of a second of frame rate decrease is enough to experience stuttering. At first I thought it was that my 8700K + GTX 1080 wasn't powerful enough. But now with a 10850K + RTX 3080 Ti it is safe to me to say that the game is broken. Also running my games from a very fast NVMe. I'm monitoring every component of my PC an that game and there is no bottleneck at all, the fps just decrease for a split of a second for no reason. So frustrating when games just don't run perfect even with a PC hardware several times more powerful than recommended specs.Last edited: Aug 18, 2021Clamibot and hertzian56 like this. -
Huh have to fire up Arkhan Knight again, did play it a bit when I first got this system and don't remember any problems but my tolerance is much lower than yours, 60fps locked, 1k or 2k, is fine with me and I'm guessing that's what I had it set at, if I have lower than that I'll dial down more. I never use presets completely, never ultra usually, always dial down some settings in certain notorious games like shadows, aa etc and always turn off a few of them that I don't like.
Even on my TW3 replay I have to set it at all lowest 720p on the kaer morhen battle/final battle or it crashes, been that way over multiple systems/years, never really fixed by cpdr. I'd certainly be mad if I had a system like yours and it was simply the game coders fault, ugh When I went from sub 60fps to a locked 2k/60fps(can get up to 80fps but it moves too much so locked) on TW3 I certainly noticed the difference and in old games I can get 120fps locked I notice it. In FO4 going from locked 60 to 100-120fp I definitely notice the difference. -
That happens to me as well but I think I recently started getting some focus on the dilemma. When ever a game I am particularly engrossed in starts throwing flags that the last map/campaign/mission etc etc is about to occur I would start doing something else. Thinking on it, maybe I would rather have a game Im engrossed in, but taking a break from it, than to have completed it and not have something as attractive to replace it.
Though my first time doing that was Final Fantasy 7 since a friend forced me to play it just so that way I could get up to Sephiroth and proceed to never play it again, he made it a point to make sure I played it so he was annoyingly backseat driving the whole time. Annoying but the payout was worth it in my opinion.hfm likes this. -
Thought I'd just update on TW3, all the way to the last battle with both DLC finished and THEN decide to go with Triss using an old save around about that decision time lol Full Female Spectrum, or full spectrum female
Also make some deliberately different other choices even if they are the "wrong" ones.
Also applied the super turbo lighting mod which seems to make the lighting more pale and clear and helps with the terrible default contrast in that game. Doing gwent quests to see more story as I'm no good at gwent but am getting better.
Blood and Wine looks better too because it removes the very yellow default filtering, increases draw distance, decreases fog and an easy simple drag and drop install, very small mod file size etc my fav mod types. Will go back and finish w the yen ending though if I care when I'm done. What an amazing game and I hope the new content they mentioned from the witcher tv show is decent. -
This is a game that I want to play in the future, so I can't tell you exactly how to fix your problem since I don't own the game yet, but one suggestion I have is to run the game in exclusive fullscreen mode if you aren't already doing so. Some games have a major performance bottleneck if you run them in windowed or borderless windowed mode. Some examples (all of which I own) are Mass Effect Andromeda, all the Far Cry games, Mothergunship, and Ghost Recon Wildlands.
None of these games will run at 120 fps unless I run them in exclusive fullscreen mode. It's really weird how much of a performance difference there is between windowed and exclusive fullscreen in those games. There must be a software induced performance bottleneck somewhere.
I will never understand this sentiment. I don't get how high framerates matter less in some games than others. It matters equally as much in every game regardless of genre since all games look smoother at high framerates.
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I corrected myself I was thinking animations are usually locked at 60fps because they are console ports but yes it matters in panning.....I have to research as the only 120hz thing I have is my s21 ultra and well their are tons of takes on if its noticeable and matters and filtering out the opinions and coming to a conclusion is difficult when you have yet to see it first hand..
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killkenny1 Too weird to live, too rare to die.
Put Humankind aside to play Diablo II Resurrection.
Ah, that menu song, those dialogues, that miserable looking word - NOW IN HD!!!
Just like I remember it. Sweet nostalgia kicking in.
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I started replaying Quake now that the free upgrade with the two new episodes dropped yesterday. Going to replay it all in order, can't wait to see what Machine Games came up with regarding the new episodes.
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Just finished it today in a stream. Gonna play Assault on Dark Athena next!
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I've noticed a few games seem to have issues playing at 75Hz for me, I've had to back down to 60Hz for a few titles. Not sure if it's a bug or a problem with the monitor itself. Super cheap monitor, so I wouldn't put it past being the monitor.Clamibot likes this.
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Getting ready to play Middle-earth: Shadow of War. Never played it and its on sale on Steam. 96gb download for the definitive edition.
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Just beat Ascent on Xbox pass... right before they released the fps killing patch... literally 130-160fps to 50-70fps with the added "DLSS" options, steam gets all the patches before xbox pass because it doesnt have to go through all the verification and checks etc...
Anyway good game for what it is, half the time i didnt know what the story was about, better playing with friends or rather "more fun" as opposed to just soloing it, for a game developed by literally 11 people I am surprised that it gave me more cyberpunk vibe than cyberpunk itself lol... I still have hopes for cyberpunk once its officially release (goty edition) lolol but Ascent I give it a 6-7 for gameplay, 3-4 for story, 3-4 for performance.... I've experienced a lot of disconnects and restarts, crash to desktops. When my game crashed and my bro was playing his save got corrupted, still playable but he lost half his gear.. kept his level which is surprising, could be an xbox pass thing again... when I got a solid 130-160fps (3080/1440p/165Hz) it felt good but after the patch it literally killed it, good thing my bro and I beat it right before the patch lol...
Games I'm still working on is Yakuza series starting with Yakuza 0 on xbox pass.
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I only played Shadow of Mordor, I like the Nemesis System I thought it was pretty unique when it first came out.Atma likes this. -
Well crap. I meant to get Shadow of Mordor not War.
I'm refunding War and getting Mordor. I'll get War later if I like Mordor and Mordor is just $4.99 for GOTY Edition.
Maybe I won't get either:
Note: certain features for the Middle-earth: Shadow of Mordor videogame will no longer be available beginning Dec. 31, 2020.
Affected Features:
• The Nemesis Forge feature will no longer be available. Therefore, players will no longer be able to transfer their in-game Nemeses from Middle-earth: Shadow of Mordor to Middle-earth: Shadow of War.
• Vendetta missions and Leaderboards will no longer be available.
• WBPlay will no longer be available, but the epic runes ""Orc Hunter"" and ""Gravewalker"" will automatically be awarded to all players.Last edited: Aug 21, 2021 -
It's pretty good, unless leaderboards are your thing I wouldn't let that slow me down.
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I decided to try Shadow of Mordor and if I decide to play Shadow of War it is on Xbox Game Pass for free.
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At that price you can't go wrong. I think the biggest complaint in the reviews was that the gameplay became repetitive; this didn't happen for me until I was at the end which is the usual for me in any game.
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I think games do enter and leave gamepass, so don't bank on it being there forever.
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Yeah I saw Shadow of Mordor was on there but left last year I think.
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What year was it that the Nvidia 3D Vision screens came out, they were the first 120Hz displays. That was definitely way further than 10 years ago.
Console gamers called PC gamers elitist and snobs for a decade, because we said 60fps was important, at a time when all they had access to was 30fps gaming. The company line was "30fps with pretty graphics is better than sacrificing for 60fps, I probably can't tell the difference anyway." Now the PS5 and Xbox Series X come out and offer 60fps across the board, suddenly the narrative has changed to "look at this glorious 60fps, we'll never play 30fps games again."Do you understand the biases which are in play here? That's how people come off when they diss things to which they don't have access.
Saying we're elitist is some "PC Master Race" rhetoric that is uncalled for honestly. No one is being rude about high framerates, we just know they are superior from experience.
I would give The Ascent an 8 personally, but I am playing the Steam version and have literally run into one single bug in all of my time with it. The Gamepass version seems to have been an absolute joke, and further solidifies why I don't pay for that service. I'm not sure I've ever seen a game have this much of an issue though, with the separate builds being this vastly different.
For me the story is irrelevant; the game feels like playing a new age 2.5D Contra, I enjoy just running around killing things, and the variety of weapons and Augmentation abilities keeps things fresh.
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Looks to be 2008, I just used 10 years as that was around the time I first saw high refresh panel
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That is pretty cool, I THOUGHT I was buying an m6700 laptop with 120hz 3d vision screen and an xm extreme cpu, comes in the mail, uh nope this is a m6600 no 3dvision no 120hz, dual core or low end quad core cpu! i'm pretty sure 3dvision was discontinued via drivers a long time ago though, not something I cared about but the 120hz xm stuff was really cool. That model was around 2012/13.
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Yeah I just couldn't exactly remember myself, didn't feel like digging through the ancient Clevo threads to see in what laptop those debuted. Really puts into perspective how far behind consoles have been lagging in performance. 13 years later, today they get their first games with 120fps options.
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Gotta give the devil its due, probably wouldn't have half as many titles if everything was still all pc.
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Just discovered Noita. It's not new and somehow it flew by my radar
Looks like an awesome little rogue-like and it's way deeper than it initially seems like. Just played for a few hours but I'm having a lot of fun. Has some Terraria vibes but without any building. It's mostly exploring and fighting mobs. The main "gimmick" is combining all sorts of spells to get cool synergies
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What game are you playing now?
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