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    nVidia GTX 780M Benchmarks and Overblocks (vBios, Afterburner, eVGA etc)

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by xjulzkx, Jun 11, 2013.

  1. ryzeki

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    Glad to hear everything is fine now :) Yeah people misjudge the huge impact of ambient temps. Here in my city we have currently 100F temps around, so my computer sometimes feels hot when TURNED OFF. Haha :) Plus if I don't use turbo fan I sometimes reach 90 degrees.
     
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    Will the i7 4700MQ bottleneck a fully overclocked 780m in any way?
     
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    nope it's not
     
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    I shouldn't think so.
     
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    no never, and you actually have 2 free boost steps if you want afaik :thumbsup:
     
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    And a 4702MQ ? It's a way to get extra juice for even further overclocking the GPU. And I guess, you have more autonomy with a 4702MQ. It has been long time I'm watching these high-end lower TDP CPU but I'm not totally convinced.
     
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    Hi everyone.

    Anyone with a 780M SLI that was able to overclock past +100 on the core?

    Tried everything to no avail (modded vBIOS, downclocking memory and/or CPU to save power, pushing +25 mV, etc..).

    950 is rock stable. Even only 975 crashes in few seconds.

    Someone with a 780M SLI with similar experiences?

    HTWingNut, did you succeed in going past +100 on core with 780M SLI?

    I know that Johnksss was able to push to 1100+/3000+ and 20k GPU on 3dMark11.

    Johnksss, care to share your exact setup? Something special was done?

    With modded vBIOS and all unlocked, I can't see to go past 950 on core, not even with a +25mV, even downclocking CPU and GPU memory to ensure power/temperature are not the issue

    It needs even more voltage? 50/100mV? Could be another reason?
     
  9. HTWingNut

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    It will likely require more voltage. And power supply is also a concern. 180W just won't cut it.
     
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    It's a 370SM3, so 330W. And I have a second PSU and the adapter, so potentially 660W. I think should be enough ;-)
     
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    Oh, haha. I guess so. If 660W doesn't cut it then you're in trouble. I've always had issue with overclocking SLI cards anywhere near what a single card can do.
     
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    Did you have time to bench the 780M SLI @1.05v/1.1v for reaching 1050+ on core?

    I would love to have some confirmation from someone else, other than johnkss, that those settings are safe and stable.

    I know for sure that johnkss can achieve it, he's almost a professional, but for us humble overclock n00bs would be nice to have more confirmations ;-)
     
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    No I didn't/couldn't. Wasn't allowed on the review sample to flash any BIOS. Sorry, wish I could help.
     
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    What should the base clock be on a 780m? My AW17 is showing a base clock of 771MHz with a boost og only 797MHz which seems really low to me.
     
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    on gpuz it shows 771mhz,but when you play games it goes 849mhz(turbo boost 2).
    open gpuz and play some games, then you will see the max clock speed. :)
     
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    Awesome thanks!
     
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    Sort of, this is the card I will move over to the 9380 when I get it.

    I tried 1050/6600 but got a power shut off from the 330w brick on the last test in 3dmark. Tried it with my 240w brick and it shut off as soon as I started the benchmark lol.

    I think its probably the 16f3 motherboard doing that though.

    I'm liking the clocks I can get out the memory though. Well over 200GB/sec of bandwidth, yum.
     
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    This ought to be interesting....
     
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    I'm toning down my vmem to see if that was the issue.
     
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    That would be part of the problem...
    Edit:
    Are you still on stock vbios?
     
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    Pushing up to 1020/+500 clocks tend to be the easy part of the 780m for a big number of users. With your tweakings I am sure you will destroy your own 680m records by a nice margin :)
     
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    He wont be getting anywhere near that with only memory over clocking....
     
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    Oh of course he won't, I meant what the "easy" OC is. It took me a lot of effort and general inestability to use the core over 1050mhz so I stopped it for a while :) Plus I don't have, and can't so far, use a higher PSU.
     
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    Major down fall for the msi in this particular aspect.
     
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    Yeah :( but hey, at least 980/3000 tends to be rock solid performance for every day gaming :) so it's not all that bad. It is definitely not the choice for overclockers that want the most out of the system.
     
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    I'm not talking about it's performance, only it's psu/power down fall. Most will complain about it, but it's do able.
     
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    I am using a dell 330W PSU.

    It's probably just a board power issue that I am hitting into, I can bench at 1040/6600 but I am seeing if I can do anything else to tweak it.
     
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    Umm, just exactly what is this good for? Im curious. I mean, you'll understand later why im asking this now. After you test for yourself....
     
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    Looks like you have a long way to go....
    Does that over clock work on 3dmark11 also?
     
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    Hello iam new in this forum. I have a question about the gtx780m and cpu.

    I bought the p170sm with 4700mq and gtx780m.

    The problem is that when i play games like Crysis 2 or do benchmarks my CPU and GPU would be very hot until 94 degrees.
    Then they begin to throttle.

    How do you get Temps of 78 degrees and lower? Renew the heat paste?

    Sry for my bad english and thank you.
     
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    Yes, you would need to redo your thermal paste it sounds like. That sounds like a terrible paste job to me, especially if you're at stock. It ain't an alienware, but your cooling should be among the top 5 systems... unless johnksss and meaker can correct my possible misinformation
     
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    No, it needs a boost in voltage but that shuts down in a game or 3dmark (not 11) so I don't much care for the score.

    It's a board power issue I keep slapping into, totally removed the vmem mod and still get issues as I push the core voltage issue of shutoffs.

    Looks like I may be able to apply the mem mod and get the cores going in a board designed to deliver that power though :D
     
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    was curious as to fps gains from this..I didnt really notice any while i was doing it.
     
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    I think after a certain amount of bandwidth, the card stops being able to utilize all that memory. Might be why fps increase drops off?
     
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    I will do some testing when I can properly do it.

    There is a reason they fitted 1750mhz memory on the desktop GTX 770 though ;)
     
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    Figured out my problem (fan settings of all things and ironically what got me with the 16F2 lol) I'll hopefully be back by tomorrow.
     
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    Guess we wait till tomorrow...
     
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    What is the 780M comparable to in desktop GPU's? I know it's kind of ridiculous to compare mobile graphics with desktop graphics, but I'm curious. Some people have been saying it's like having a GTX 680 in your laptop, others have said it's more like a GTX 670. Which is it?

    Note: Dual 780M's definitely appears to be similar to a GTX 690, if not, better.
     
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    Its among 660TI, 670 and 760. As for it specs its a desktop 680 with lower clocks, any reasonable OC and it have more performance than a stock 680 and about the same as 770. Really nice if u ask me. Cant wait until mine arrives.
     
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    Alex basically nailed it. It's basically a 680 with the full 1536 shaders per GPU but operates at lower clock frequencies. It does have enough OC headroom to be relatively effective but in stock form, due to the limited clocks from the limited TDP of the mobile processor, it's more akin to the GPUs listed above in what Alex wrote. Great cards considering the miniaturized form factors we are dealing with and limited amount of watts we can pump into these beasts.
     
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    Sigh ANOTHER shut down issue (which behaves in a different manner) *bangs head against wall*.
     
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    Ok a little bit of testing at 967/1500 and 967/1650.

    1500mhz memory 3 runs Metro 2033 very high with 4xAA/16xAF = 43.00 Average FPS 11.32 minimum.
    1650mhz memory 3 runs Metro 2033 very high with 4xAA/16xAF = 45.33 Average FPS 12.04 minimum.

    = 5.4% increase to average frame rates and 6.3% increase to minimum frame rates (which were consistent among the 3 runs)

    So yes, the FPS still scales nicely from 1500mhz (6ghz data rate) to 1650mhz (6.6ghz data rate).
     
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    That is nice to see. I assume you're running the 4930MX as well, correct?
     
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    This is my backup 16F3 system with a 3740QM while I wait for my visa to get decided. I don't predict the same power issues with the 9380.
     
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    Did you ever find out if the P370SM3/P375SM's power adapter was rated in rms or max wattage? If it's in rms I'd love to do some nice old SLI ocing. I would be happy if I could run a solid 980/1500 in SLI =D
     
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    Alienware and clevo now use the same type of Delta electronics, the brick is rated 330W continuous output (19.5V, 16.92A).

    However please note at 1080/3300 my card was drawing 160-165W. That's your entire brick on a single adapter.
     
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