Best P-7811FX GPU Driver?

When I install system tools it did not install ntune - not sure why. Whole thing seems a bit shonky to me but its working now so *shrug*.

I can only get 665mhz core, 900mhz mem and 1670mhz shaders stable though. ~10-15% overclock. Not huge but then again I undervolted my CPU to 0.9v stable so I figure it about offsets the powersavings there.

 

Have blind faith in what I tell ya..try the clock in my signature. You'll be suprised how well they work. 698 core 988 mem 1798 shader

 

Has anyone used 177.92 and tried playing Crysis Warhead? I get this weird display issue where over 75% of the screen (from the bottom up) goes completely "gray" on and off throughout the game, yet I still see my hud I might go back and try the "older" drivers.

 

OH bother, I sure wish this crap would work. Still no performance option even after a world of help.

 

What are the temps on your notebook like with those clock speeds? We're getting a Gateway P-7811FX this weekend and plan to up the juice (btw, I have a Zalman 17" cooling pad, which will help).

 

i've got 8700+ score on 3dmark06 on stock everything. i ran the test on 1280*1024... everything default at 3dmark. is that what we were supposed to run 3dmark as? i mean, is that what we're comparing? or should i run it at native res?

 

Run 1280x1024 unless you want a slide show.

And to previous poster.. The clocks get my GPU to around 70C.. max. CPU is a bit different, as I have the x9100, so it gets warmer than P8400. But temps are well in line, just keep the notebook fans clear of blockage.

 

ok thanks e-wrecked... i've just installed the xfastest driver... (i just ran it? is that how i'm supposed to install. just wondering because i didn't see an installation completed message) anyway... my concern is that my score dropped from 8700 to 8600... should i revert to nvidia drivers?

and on another note, i would like to drop my temps 10C. is there any guide around here for fx laptops undervolting?

 

here ya go

its not specific to FX laptops undervolting, but i guarandarntee if done properly, you'll drop temps to some degree.

 

thanks man. + rep for saving me time. really appreciate it.

 

Your system
3DMark Score 9491 3DMarks
SM 2.0 Score 4444
SM 3.0 Score 4509
CPU Score 2040
Result name Untitled

cant thank e wrecked enough, borrowed his OC numbers, works great on my system as well. 3d06 result is +700 points =+8%

 

Your system
3DMark Score 9627 3DMarks
SM 2.0 Score 4543
SM 3.0 Score 4526
CPU Score 2077

did it on my own, +850 points=9.7% gain.
only ran it through 3d06 once, not sure it will be stable.

 

Wow.. Those are some strong scores...very Nice

 

well i just updated my drivers to 178.13 or something, no digital vibrance though

apparently these r the enxt big step in Nvidias drivers, I have not tried any games yet though. some people are claiming there are recieving HUGE performance increases, like 5- 10 FPS at 1680x1050, etc.

 

Hrm....I have tried every and I mean EVERY driver that supports 9800m gts under the sun, still get fing artifacts at start up, "display driver stopped working and now has recovered", here is the thing I bought this for my wife, it is for her school, she will never game on it....I choose it on the basis of pure hardware versus the cold hard dollar, to me it is well beyond what she needs in terms of spec other then the measly 200gb hd which really only provides @175gb of usable space. I have a much better desktop so I could care less about jumping on it other then the fact of having to trouble shoot it because of the fing artifacts, what gives gpu is at 40 degrees no load cause no game will never be installed to load it, used gpuz, riva to monitor the volts and temps everything looks well within tolerances.

If you will notice it looks like officail support for the 9800m gts has ended, as far as nvidia ius concerned, I researched nvifdia gpu's involvment in the laptop sector, I was aware of the issues various vendors were having with heat issue of the 8xxx series, thought the problems were resolved, as i said before 40 degrees is well withing acceptable tolerances, there are no new drivers released that support it.?????? make a product that is relatively new and stop supporting it ? ***? My assumption is that this problem I' am having is driver related and being so it will not go away until a version is released that adresses the problem.

Side note, like i said games won't even touch the hard drive/ever, I even went so far to under clock the ram and core of the vga in a attempt to gain some stability, all you fellas posting futuremarks and such grats, I just want to get this ucker to run stable& reliably so she doesn't have to fight with it.

One other thing that confuses the crap out of me is the shear volumes of drivers listed on the gateway site, lik10 different drivers for ethernet/wireless etc.....finger pad crap that isn't even included(could care less by the way)...here is the thing, I download and installed them all, you cannot tell me you know what you have or not have until components are actually installed and they can not be installed or visible on system until the drivers are installed,, a good many of the drivers were not even necessary yet they were listed as model specific, again ***!? did they released the same notebook with various components other then what is listed in the offical specs sheet?

P.S. I cannot wait for the ability to be able to build scratch laptops like I do with my desktop, to be able to cut out the incomp middle man would help a lot.

 

How can you even install that driver? 9800m gts is not even supported by it, I need nailed at the install screen and it will not allow me to install it?

 

did u download the modded INF?

 

@Tabasco36 - A few thoughts...

I'm going to get the most important part out of the way - those restarts due to the GPU driver and artifacts, in my experience, are due to an overheating video card. If it happens consistently, regardless of the driver you're running, then I hate to say it but you might need to exchange it.

If this laptop is never going to be used for games, even though it's an incredible value, I'm not sure why you would choose it. It's not really the "best bang for the buck" laptop you can find if you don't need the video card. A similiarly (or better) equipped laptop with integrated video (or even a lower end dedicated GPU) would be much cheaper, still a great value, and you wouldn't experience heating issues related to a high end graphics card in a mobile platform.

Nvidia hasn't stopped suporting the 9800 series cards. As is common practice by both ATI and Nvidia, they manufacter the cards and the original drivers, and leave it up to the laptop manufacturer to keep the drivers current. This is very common. Nvidia will keep pumping out drivers for 9800 series drivers but they won't be compatible with the laptop. This is where sites like http://www.laptopvideo2go.com step in and modify the driver releases so you CAN install them on your laptop.

As far as the drivers on the Gateway site are concerned, it looks like Gateway did a literal driver dump - dump every driver ever associated with any of the 78** series models. While this is poor customer support, it's not the end of the world. The original review models of the 7811 actually did have bluetooth (and I believe a fingerprint reader?), so drivers were created. I'm assuming in a last minute cost cutting maneuver, these features were dropped. Gateway should update the site to correctly mark which drivers are related to which components, but at this point the majority of thsoe drivers are the ones that are already installed on your laptop.

 

Go here for information on how to install new nvidia drivers on your laptop:


http://www.laptopvideo2go.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=8128

 

RE: cannot be a heat issue booting from cold dead start up imo, and that is what is happening.

RE: I 'am inclined to agree with you strongly on this point ....shame though, instint tells me this rig is going back to the store....it is a half assed attempt even though it looks good on paper, simple is better....and I know now to stick to my desktop for truely high performance and stability, I was considering getting one myself if it looked like it would perform well.


RE: the site you listed ww.laptopvideo2go.com is were i was getting my drivers from, yet get to a certain version and 9800mgts is no longer supported and will not install.....unless there is a trick I'am unaware of.

 

It could still be a heat issue if the cooling of the CPU or GPU is just flat out failing. Do you run HWmonitor as soon as you're in windows? Most heating problems occur as the CPU\GPU slowly heat up and hit a point they can't handle. In a case where the cooling system is just defective, the CPU\GPU can heat up much, much faster (for example a loose heatsink can cause thermal failure almost immediately).

The other advantage to a non-gaming laptop for a non-gamer (besides price) is that it will generate less heat (more comfortable on the lap or to use on a bed), and it's probably lighter as well.

On the page where you download the driver, there is a link for "MODDED INF". You download the "MODDED INF" file and save it to the same folder you extracted the drivers to. What this does is replace the INF file provided by nvidia with a modified file that will allow you to proceed with the install.

 

http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=258626

here is our guide on installing laptop drivers.

Basically there is no Nvidia support for drivers for their cards, so we have to mod them so they work with our cards. When your done downloading the drivers you usually want to SAVE intsead of RUN. Then, download the MODDED INF and place it in the folder where the drivers are located, and replace the other one that is there. It includes support for mobile cards, and the 9800m GTS should be included.

 

Thanks got it now omg I'am really starting to hate this laptop....they better not try a restocking fee unless they like the taste of laptop/cardboard

 

on another note, i think imma keep the 178.13 drivers. i gained about 30 fps during the WiC benchmark, and about 10fps in crysis warhead on enthusiast.

 

Impressive.. I'm gonna give em a try.

 

thats a nice boost eh? imma try it to.

ps 2500th SPAM POST

 

After RAIDing my 7811 I had to re-install Vista and noticed that my Windows Experience Index was stuck on 1 due to video performance; rebooted, retested, etc. (this with the 177.92 drivers) - no joy. After updating to the 178.13s my Graphics index popped up to 5.9, and Gaming Graphics are @ 5.8; the Base Score is now at 5.2 (CPU bound). I know the older drivers were not really performing that poorly, but there was certainly something not quite kosher with the older driver set.

Oh, yeah, not that it's that meaningful or anything but my hard disk rating went from 5.6 to 5.9 after the RAID 0 install. I'd buy THAT for a dollar!

 

RAID bounced mine to 5.9 also.. However, the 178.13 driver still doesn't perform as well as the 177.85. I swear by these xfastest drivers.

178.13 3dmark06 w/ modded .inf;
10560 total
4861 sm 2
4581 sm 3
2646 CPU

177.85 3dmark06 Xfastest;
10776 total
5053 sm 2
4670 sm 3
2625 cpu

While artificial, they're still more stable when overclocking.. And Im sticking with them. I did give it a go 'round though. And by the way..these perforance "gains" are compared to the 175.19 drivers I believe.. OLD drivers vs. NEW drivers. Heck, pit any newer driver against an older outdated driver, that didnt support physx and it will likely have major gains(basing this off LTV2go's comparison). And my personal experiences with the driver don't impress me. 3dmark06 dropped 200+ points, vantage dropped from 5138 to 4950 overall score. thanks for the info tho..

 

E - do you know if the Xfastest drivers are tweaked beyond simply having the modded inf file incorporated?

It seems to me the Laptopvideo2go drivers are standard but maybe I'm wrong.

 

i would also like to throw out our DP's are getting more obnoxious by the day, and im lovin it

 

DP's????

1. Dilated Pupils?
2. Deranged Posters?
3. Disgusting Propensities?
4. Distilled Petroleum?

 

Syn: not sure..but I dont think you can tweak them other than the .inf. I do however think the 177.85 itself is optimized to where it supports the 9800m GTS better than these other drivers. Not every video card reaps the same rewards from each driver.. You'll notice that a lot of these modded drivers arent meant for the video card in our comp..thats why ya gotta mod em. Hell, 177.85 and 178.13 are both desktop drivers.. but we can run em!

And yea, ltv2go just adds compatability..not performance.

 

That's what I thought. One advantage to mobile drivers is the aggressive down clock for heat but my 177.85 down clocks sufficiently so no problem.

 

3d06 is not a good indicator of real world performance,
a few overclocks ran well on 3d06 with good results failed crysis the game.
a customed clock scored only 5100 on 3d06 yet ran crysis smoothly with 14fps average on all high native res.

 

From what I understand desktop and laptop drivers from nVidia are the same; however each laptop OEM may find it necessary to change spec via the driver both from a heat and battery life standpoint, so nVidia goes along by not officially releasing any laptop drivers. Like any software product, however, the drivers are fully copyrighted and protected by licensing agreements and nVidia could shut down all the "mod" sites with a few phone calls from their lawyers... if they wanted to. It's really nod nod wink wink... and good for us.

 

DISPLAY PICS! silly goose...

 

nars what do you mean no DV ?
i am running the 178.13 and its d-vibrant as ever

 

mine is not working...im going to re install and see if it fixes it

 

i downloaded straight off nvidia unzipped edit inf and run the setup.exe

 

im giving up on overclocking, none of the customed clocks came up working
on crysis.

 

What driver? What clocks? What resolution? What settings? DX9 or DX10?

 

I would go with the driver used by a record holder - see the post above mine.

 

Well, here's my info..
177.85 Xfastest Drivers - best performer I've used even compared to the 178.13. Clocks; 698/988/1798 - I usually run crysis at 1440x1050, or whatever that res is.. I dont pay it attention. Set it and forget it. Im running a couple benchmarks right now to demonstrate my personal performance difference. Running at high, every time played.. sometimes I'll drop a setting or 2 to medium if I need a couple extra FPS. Always dx10, there are some dx9 tweaks people claim look like dx10..and are supposed to give better performance.. I am sure they're meaning well..but I prefer the visual crispness of dx10, cause it is noticeable. And the minor difference in FPS doesnt bother me. Long story short..lemme run some benchies and we can compare. Maybe you're just not supposed to run Crysis at the 7811FX's native res.. if that's the issue. Only reason I say that is because you were comparing the performance of it to someone elses system in a previous post..

 

yeah, let us know what res/very high or just high/ 1920x1200 or some other lessor resolution. and ill test mine against it right now.

 

These are all DX10 64bit results, all settings HIGH. 3 loops no AA:

1680x1050
9/28/2008 11:16:56 PM - Vista 64
Beginning Run #1 on Map-island, Demo-benchmark_gpu
DX10 1680x1050, AA=No AA, Vsync=Disabled, 64 bit test, FullScreen
Demo Loops=3, Time Of Day= 9
Global Game Quality: High
==============================================================
TimeDemo Play Started , (Total Frames: 2000, Recorded Time: 111.86s)
!TimeDemo Run 0 Finished.
Play Time: 93.72s, Average FPS: 21.34
Min FPS: 15.42 at frame 152, Max FPS: 24.50 at frame 981
Average Tri/Sec: -20765458, Tri/Frame: -973102
Recorded/Played Tris ratio: -0.94
!TimeDemo Run 1 Finished.
Play Time: 87.93s, Average FPS: 22.75
Min FPS: 15.42 at frame 152, Max FPS: 25.50 at frame 1766
Average Tri/Sec: -21873214, Tri/Frame: -961608
Recorded/Played Tris ratio: -0.95
!TimeDemo Run 2 Finished.
Play Time: 88.01s, Average FPS: 22.73
Min FPS: 15.42 at frame 152, Max FPS: 25.89 at frame 1751
Average Tri/Sec: -21833526, Tri/Frame: -960757
Recorded/Played Tris ratio: -0.95
TimeDemo Play Ended, (3 Runs Performed)
==============================================================

Completed All Tests

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9/28/2008 11:16:56 PM - Vista 64

Run #1- DX10 1680x1050 AA=No AA, 64 bit test, Quality: High ~~ Overall Average FPS: 22.74

1440x1050
9/28/2008 10:50:28 PM - Vista 64
Beginning Run #1 on Map-island, Demo-benchmark_gpu
DX10 1400x1050, AA=No AA, Vsync=Disabled, 64 bit test, FullScreen
Demo Loops=3, Time Of Day= 9
Global Game Quality: High
==============================================================
TimeDemo Play Started , (Total Frames: 2000, Recorded Time: 111.86s)
!TimeDemo Run 0 Finished.
Play Time: 79.33s, Average FPS: 25.21
Min FPS: 16.48 at frame 1953, Max FPS: 29.57 at frame 1750
Average Tri/Sec: 26055288, Tri/Frame: 1033512
Recorded/Played Tris ratio: 0.89
!TimeDemo Run 1 Finished.
Play Time: 74.07s, Average FPS: 27.00
Min FPS: 16.48 at frame 1953, Max FPS: 30.18 at frame 1746
Average Tri/Sec: 28247482, Tri/Frame: 1046085
Recorded/Played Tris ratio: 0.88
!TimeDemo Run 2 Finished.
Play Time: 74.15s, Average FPS: 26.97
Min FPS: 16.48 at frame 1953, Max FPS: 30.54 at frame 1758
Average Tri/Sec: 28221992, Tri/Frame: 1046361
Recorded/Played Tris ratio: 0.88
TimeDemo Play Ended, (3 Runs Performed)
==============================================================

Completed All Tests

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9/28/2008 10:50:28 PM - Vista 64

Run #1- DX10 1400x1050 AA=No AA, 64 bit test, Quality: High ~~ Overall Average FPS: 26.985


1280x1024
9/28/2008 11:11:59 PM - Vista 64
Beginning Run #1 on Map-island, Demo-benchmark_gpu
DX10 1280x1024, AA=No AA, Vsync=Disabled, 64 bit test, FullScreen
Demo Loops=3, Time Of Day= 9
Global Game Quality: High
==============================================================
TimeDemo Play Started , (Total Frames: 2000, Recorded Time: 111.86s)
!TimeDemo Run 0 Finished.
Play Time: 71.95s, Average FPS: 27.80
Min FPS: 21.09 at frame 184, Max FPS: 33.15 at frame 1762
Average Tri/Sec: 27366454, Tri/Frame: 984503
Recorded/Played Tris ratio: 0.93
!TimeDemo Run 1 Finished.
Play Time: 66.75s, Average FPS: 29.96
Min FPS: 20.64 at frame 1316, Max FPS: 33.94 at frame 1758
Average Tri/Sec: 29804686, Tri/Frame: 994661
Recorded/Played Tris ratio: 0.92
!TimeDemo Run 2 Finished.
Play Time: 66.68s, Average FPS: 29.99
Min FPS: 20.64 at frame 1316, Max FPS: 33.94 at frame 1758
Average Tri/Sec: 29847758, Tri/Frame: 995177
Recorded/Played Tris ratio: 0.92
TimeDemo Play Ended, (3 Runs Performed)
==============================================================

Completed All Tests

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9/28/2008 11:11:59 PM - Vista 64

Run #1- DX10 1280x1024 AA=No AA, 64 bit test, Quality: High ~~ Overall Average FPS: 29.975


And native 1920x1200
9/28/2008 11:48:12 PM - Vista 64
Beginning Run #1 on Map-island, Demo-benchmark_gpu
DX10 1900x1200, AA=No AA, Vsync=Disabled, 64 bit test, FullScreen
Demo Loops=3, Time Of Day= 9
Global Game Quality: High
==============================================================
TimeDemo Play Started , (Total Frames: 2000, Recorded Time: 111.86s)
!TimeDemo Run 0 Finished.
Play Time: 116.37s, Average FPS: 17.19
Min FPS: 11.00 at frame 1939, Max FPS: 20.55 at frame 1758
Average Tri/Sec: -16211096, Tri/Frame: -943219
Recorded/Played Tris ratio: -0.97
!TimeDemo Run 1 Finished.
Play Time: 139.02s, Average FPS: 14.39
Min FPS: 7.37 at frame 149, Max FPS: 20.55 at frame 1758
Average Tri/Sec: -13391402, Tri/Frame: -930868
Recorded/Played Tris ratio: -0.98
!TimeDemo Run 2 Finished.
Play Time: 139.06s, Average FPS: 14.38
Min FPS: 7.37 at frame 149, Max FPS: 20.55 at frame 1758
Average Tri/Sec: -13394016, Tri/Frame: -931297
Recorded/Played Tris ratio: -0.98
TimeDemo Play Ended, (3 Runs Performed)
==============================================================

Completed All Tests

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9/28/2008 11:48:12 PM - Vista 64

Run #1- DX10 1900x1200 AA=No AA, 64 bit test, Quality: High ~~ Overall Average FPS: 14.385

 

you have to drop your cpu speed to match his....

 

umm..no. CPU isnt a big deal with crysis..

 

sorry pal...cpu does matter....

 

I said it isn't a *big* deal..didn't say it didn't matter. What you runnin these tests at?

 

with physics and such it does make a bigger difference inn crysis