Is there gonna be a new model to replace P-7805u?

the asus?

 

G51/ G71.

I've been reading all threads regarding these two new models and seems like, they all have 1 problem in common- overheating. This issue causes the laptop to perform much worse/ lagg etc all caused due to the temperature. In the G51 the GPU temp is said to reach 105C after only 10min of plyaing Crysis.
I just don't understand why ASUS used only 1 fan to cool such a hot GPU + a CPU. They used the same cooling solution on the bigger G71 as well. Allready about 4/5 users have reported this issue.

I would suggest we all wait before purchasing laptops from this series for now and see what ASUS will do about it (if anything?) It should extend our waiting for the new Gateway, coz looks lie the ASUS G serie are having problems right fromt he start.

 

I heard the the G51/71 arent even supposed to be available for purchase until sunday. So Im hoping a fix will be available monday or tuesday.

 

I agree a3r0x, I plan to stand my ground. I really want a Gateway FX laptop!
I'm currently in the process of moving so I can wait a couple weeks or a few months...

 

Yeah, I'd love to wait... but I have to have a comp by the end of next month for school... so I might snatch up the Asus, and if anything, sell it for the new FX... if it ever comes.

 

Checked again today and still no sign of a new FX series anywhere in Best Buy's system.

 

Thanks again for checking, i guess it really will be a good while before the new FX.

But maybe they surprise us. Gateway was one of the first to drop a core i7 desktop on the market. So maybe they are holding out to be the first to release capella based systems.

Still seems along time with out a system making them money though, but i guess their new 2 laptops might be pulling up the slack for business/media

 

Oh yeah, they surprised us

Not a ton, but hey, moar Gateway!

 

Check this out: http://www.gateway.com/systems/series/529598056.php

 

WOW YES! There is a new GATEWAY.

But sadly it has the old 9800m GTS

Looks like they' ve changed their retailer, wonder why.

 

I still think they are just importing the international versions.

Though the CPU's are nicer, its just the 6831 vs 6860 all over again.

I guess they had some international stock left to clear out

Still no newer GPU and still no quads... makes me a sad crime fighter indeed

 

Well, before everyone gets excited about a new version with a new GPU. The 200M series isnt a new series as Im sure alot of you know. And price wise Im sure they wouldnt put anything more than a 260GTS in this thing which will boast probably a mere 5-8 percent performance gain. And it would probably cost around $1400 equiped with that. So just sit happily with your very well priced 78's and wait for the 300m series.

 

This is frustrating! Here I am convincing myself not to buy the 7805u hoping for a bigger, faster FX laptop with a better graphics card and they just give us the same laptop with a slightly better processor. Oh and can someone please explain to me how gateway hope to justify having a 150$ price difference between the '07 and '09 laptops?

 

ANd it would be much better with a slightly better GPU?

 

Totally! Im thinking a 2.0 quad and the 260GTS for about 1500$. Then if your like me, wait a while for reviews and forums about it to surface, the price drops to about 1300$ and I snap one up

 

As has been stated before the 260GTX is still a Gxx generation card, but the 260GTS will be based off the 200 core which while not terribally exciting is actually a new card.

Technically we're all waiting until the end of the year for nVidias 212 core GPU's to be released. We will actually see a marked increase in GPU power then.

I was honestly hoping for Gateway to release a unit with the 260GTS in it for this go around. Not only for the small preformance increase, but for the really nice TDP of the cards. Would run very cool.

Welcome to the 6831 vs 6860 era all over again
If its like that again then that mean its a precurser to the next gen laptop coming out almost on capellas release date.

As to the 150 price difference... the CPU. You really think the 172XFX was worth 500 dollars more than the 6860 just because it had the t8300 in it
Gateway has for a long time had a habbit of releaseing great priced machines, but then releaseing one just "slightly" upgraded and charging more than they should. I guess it helps them make a slightly larger profit on some machines

 

I dont know about you guys, but I havent seen my GPU crawl past 66 C so a lower TDP dosent concern me. I wouldnt mind seeing a 1680x1050 screen with the 260.

 

I take that back. 1.6 quad will do just fine if gateway still intend on offering cheap gaming laptops with the calpella chipset. Check out the price estimates

http://www.appleinsider.com/article...ella_with_quad_core_notebook_chips_in_q3.html

 

True, but
more powerful + lower temps + longer battery life = SUPERIOR

I'm still dreaming of a day with a 3.5gHz quad core that runs 10watt TDP and a mobile GPU as powerful as dual 295GTX's with a 20watt TDP. Yeah a powerhouse of mobile computing that only needs a single fan to run at basically room temperature

Yeah they look expensive, but the CPU/Motherboard is typically the most expensive part of any computer build. The 2.0gHz will be the i5 eXtreme CPU so it will rarely get released in a consumer system.

 

Oh...my...gosh

btw, how does the 7805 compare to these two? All of them are about the same price, and have pretty similar specs:

MSI
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834152095

Asus
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834220557

I'm still leaning towards the Gateway. I just love the case

 

Thats could be possible, and even better.

Well in the near future, silicon based processors are going to be stopped manufactured.
Intel is making every once in a whole, new technological processes ie. 65nm, 45nm... and someday it will reach its 16nm (i think it is) and it will not be able to go any further. Making transistor below that technological process will cause them to be unstable and essentially not able to work properly (they would simply brake). This therefore means that the semi- conductor- silicon will need a good replacement.
Wheather forecasting, scientifical experiments/ research... all need huge processing power, and the demand for that power is increasing all the time. Up to now this was not an issue, however even the most powerfull computers on the planet do not provide sufficinet power to these two groups (and more) I have mentioned.

So, people are allready researching a material that will substitute the silicon. From what I've read they allready found a material which could potentially be used to make processors. For example a different form of graphite could be used in which electrons move about 1000x faster than in silicon. (IBM is researching this at the moment). Scientist say that reaching not gigahertz but TERAHERTZ frequencies will not be a problem as they make progress with the material. This all can be acheived with avery small TDP, due to the much smaller resistance of that material.

But wait another 30-50 years, for Quantum Computers.

7805 is slightly better than those 2 GPU-wise. CPU wise theire is no real difference. Just choose the Gateway, you will not regret it.

 

k. thx dude!


here's hoping that the first ones have a higher resolution screen A guy can dream....

 

Well this is kinda a shock... I was expecting what you were Kamin_Majere.
I was actually hoping they would bring a 260m GTS to their next line of FX laptops. Instead, They bring out 2 new laptops with just upgraded CPU's with the same GPU from before.

I do agree with Infiniteone, that even if Gateway had put in a new GPU, whether a 260m GTS or GTX, we most likely would have only seen a 5-8 percent performance gain. Seeing the youtube videos of the 7805u does show that the 9800m GTS can push games to looking great anyway.

Am I upset over the little change... a little bit. My actual feelings are of relief though because I initially wanted the 7805u but couldn't find it anywhere. Now that these two new laptops are out (soon), I can still get a FX laptop at an affordable price and not be worried about limited stock like before. I still wanted a FX laptop and what's great is they updated the CPU's to the ones I was planning to buy if I had gotten the 7805u (I wanted either a P8700 or P8600 because I found someone that was going to sell them to me for $70-$60 each).

I'm still a fan of the FX line so I'm probably going to buy this over the Asus's newest line of laptops due to Asus current scare factor (1 Fan, overheating easily). The two "new" FX laptops do have me a questioning a few things...

1) Even though we all know that the 7805u and this 7807u is being sold under $1100... why is the 7809u being sold a bit higher? Just because of the upped 500GB Hard Drive (slower) and a Faster Processor?
2) Why are they bringing out the 7807u AGAIN? It was out in April but a few weeks after pulled due to the Quad 7808u...
http://www.laptopmag.com/review/laptops/gateway-p-7807u-fx.aspx

Aw well... looks like me a Dan from CNET are going to have a bit of a chat. I'm sure he would love to hear this because he was wondering himself !

 

They just want to wait for the new CPU's and GPU's and fill the gap with refreshments.

 

Thats what i'm thinking too. Just re-release the international versions to the US and profit.

Plus I guess they still had stock to get rid of.

And thats why i never really consider Asus a good contender to Gateway for best price point laptop. They release some amazing specs but the temps are always too high and its always worse in some way. (not to down Asus, they make some great products, just not at this price point generally)

1)500GB hard drives are usually equal in preformance to a 320gb 7200rpm drive. Still both are pretty slow so i would always go for capacity over rpm. But yeah the "better" HDD and the better CPU is whats factoring the price. (its the 17x series all over again )

2) no idea just something to get rid of some left over CPU's they dont want anymore i suppose

 

why is the 7807 cheaper than the 7805? The specs look better to me

 

No idea... i was kind of wondering that myself. The only difference is that one doesnt have a DVI port

 

wuts a dvi port? (clueless me) and is it worth the $200 price difference? (probably not)

 

Just another way to hook it up to an external moniter.

I think it has the capabilities to output to a 2500x1680 (or what ever the resolution is) screen. Basically HDMI with all of the signal used for Video.

And no not worth 200 dollars

 

7805 price is just not updated, and anyway you can't buy that laptop brand new anymore.

 

Agreed, in all actuality- the 7805u and 7807u are priced the same. Best Buy is selling the 7805 for $1089, while the 7807u is priced at $1099 (yeah a $10 difference but whatever). The 7805u though is being phased out and most likely the 7807u is it's replacement. It is kinda strange that the 7807u or ANY of the new FX line is not appearing at all at Best Buy. Maybe THAT is why BigHops never saw any new FX laptops on his system, maybe Gateway broke their contract with Best Buy (maybe due to too many returns).

If I wasn't so in love with the FX laptops , I might have settled for the new Asus laptops with it's faults anyway. Someone has already posted a review of the new Asus G71 on Best Buy's Website and it's not pretty:
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage...&cp=1&id=1218092150740#tabbed-customerreviews
Ouch, Good thing I want a FX laptop and probably stick with them too !

 

agh! It's not for sale in any local store! Q_Q
Canada sucks

 

Anyone have an estimate of when the 7807 will be available...I'm dying to get a new laptop and the 7805 was a dream come true, too bad i can't find it anywhere, now i'm just waiting for the 7807.

 

In stock, right now, at J&R - Gateway notebooks

Gateway P-7807u $1,099.99

Pre-Order:

Gateway P-7809u $1,199.99


Enjoy.

 

Wow -

I'm sure when I posted that the 7807u was "in stock".

Gone now.

 

Same here, I'll probably end up grabbing the 7807u, that's still a great deal with what you get (it has nothing to do with me liking the FX line, lol !)

 

Told everyone the FX was popular... and that just confirms it

Sold out AGAIN in under a day

 

Dam man, wonder when they gonna restock, i don't want to have to wait 3 months. I NEED IT NOW...

Also how come even though its a newer model in comparison to the 7805 the 7807u lacks in almost every department, Review. Is this an individual machine problem or is that pretty much solid, cause if so i might just consider getting a refurbished 7805.

 

Where else can I find the 7807 besides JR?

 

it will be back in stock, just give it awhile.

Its not newer than the 7805. It was originally released at the same time in Japan i believe. And its not lacking, its the same basic machine... no real difference. So basically any review that states otherwise is wrong.

@grandfinale
So far as we know its JR only right now

 

Ah man that doesn't bode well. It looks like a great laptop but only stores are in NYC and I can't buy online from Canada without the need for extra costs... that's why it's so tempting to buy at BB, just all across the country.

 

Does the 7807 have any 1900x1200 screens?

 

Specs state that it's not, but who know's... a few 7805u's had the 1900x1200.
I personally don't care too much about resolution, If I ever want to up it I'll just hook up my HDTV to it...

 

i just want a laptop!!! I say a review of the 7807u and it has that finger print scanner thing, pretty cool, but 7805 doesn't have....too bad it's out of stock

 

Cmon Gateway, release a completely different model at the end of summer! You can do it!

 

Hahaha, ironic that you say that dude... since my last post, I just aquired a 35 inch 1080i HDTV... randomly and for free. HDMI ports and everything. Screw the resolution, I'm getting that laptop. haha

 

Wake up... Gateway's just resorting to the rebranding trick... The specs are the same, name changed from 'g' to 'u'. I have seen these a month ago.

 

I agree, but isn't it better to continue the FX P-78xx's than to not have any?

I'd like to see a "new, improved" model, too, even though then I'll want it over what I have, but still, for those looking for a reasonably priced gaming notebook these FX's are still worth considering.

 

True, the 7808u disappeared and the 7805u's are really hard to find new now. I'd rather have to not worry about if a models is available or not. I'd rather have available models than none at all. So I'm glad they brought these out, I was planning to get the 7805u but it's gone where I live so I'll probably grab the 7807u whenever my move ends and I start working again.

Oh and Gateway finally uploaded the images of the new models... I don't know why it took so long... the pics look the same !

Is it just me or did they add a lightscribe drive to the 7807u and 7809u (or something called labelflash)? The 7805u doesn't mention having a one?

 

The specs on the models aren't always correct, and the "fine print" at the end says something to the effect that the are always "subject to change".

Having said that - I believe all of the 7805u include the "labelflash" DVD/CD drive. Mine does.

Lightscribe disks are more readily available, aren't they?