I guess if someone with a 7808u could share his BIOS, this would be possible-
I just don't know if GW is willing to simply let potential cash flow go for the sake of pleasing non-quad 78XX owners--
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Clean up on Aisle #4!
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WOW, so much for a double post. The Q9100 and QX9300 aren't priced that badly either. I can't sell my CPU because if I needed to warranty the notebook I would need to get it back to factory condition.
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lol wow how many posts are you gonna make? lol
and i dont want to rummage through the 100 pages of this thread, so i have 2 questions.
1. is overclocking support available? at least through software?
2. is quad core supported?
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Why did my post get deleted? Is there something wrong with the forum?
My comments were about how you need your OLD CPU for warranty purposes (notebook factory condition) and the q9100 costing under $400 and qx9300 costing around $500. Also about the odd double posts. -
So only $430 on EBay for an OEM?
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What the heck, my post was deleted AGAIN!
This is my third time posting this, quad cores are getting cheaper even though new new models have been released so I really would like to see Gateway release the newest bios. -
pmassey31545 Whats the mission sir?
Yeah. I got the QX9300 and paid for it-in more way than one. System won't POST. Powers on but no POST. No error code or anyhting. Just power and wait-NOTHING!!! Crap!!!! !#@$%*&!!!!!!!!
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What original bios version do you have?
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There we have it, a non working quad system. It not like people with the higher BIOS won't share, it that we haven't been able to get a working BIOS dump.
I'm jealous of your quad, even if we don't have a working BIOS yet, just the fact you have one. -
Lol! I guess it would have to come from someone who owns a 7808u!
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pmassey31545 Whats the mission sir?
My original BIOS was/is still 9C.17.00.
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That answers the question if alone the 9c.17.00 will give quad core's to the present P78xx's. Not the answer alot were looking for though........
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This is a little off topic, but I thought it was worth mentioning.
I sold the original 7805 that I had and bought another one - Seller's remorse
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Wonder if this would work with a Quad? Of course, there's the small matter of getting a working bios first.
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When did you get it? What's your current BIOS? Can you take the measurement so that we can compare with pmassey31545's heatsink? Because with his HS, there was about 1/8 (pls correct me here) inch that did not cover the CPU.
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I'm running the .17 bios on it. When I get the chance, I'll measure the heatsink.
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pmassey31545 Whats the mission sir?
1/8" is correct. I'll measure the square copper portion so we all can have a reference. If in fact it is larger, that may be good news. Just maybe there is a forthcoming BIOS for Quads..........I Hope...
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Or they just stopped producing the old heatsink production to move onto the 7808, since it cheaper to just produce one instead of 2.
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Or someone could walk in best buy and ask to have one booted up/look at the one on display. Given I bought mine and my girlfriends there, along with lots of other business, they're usually pretty happy to help me lol.
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electrosoft Perpetualist Matrixist
The problem is finding someone who actually thinks the 7808u is worth that outlandish price.
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Well guys I haven't posted here in a few months since everything has been fine with my P-7811 fx but a few weeks ago my Laptop was acting weird. It wouldn't turn on even if I plugged in my power supply. I left it charging over night and tried it the next day and it turned on from there thought nothing of it. Well the same thing happened again but this time it didn't turn back on. I called gatway and they sent me another power supply and that didn't fix it.
Two guys here at work have the same model so I swapped the battery tried their power supply's and nothing. I don't understand why out of no where it would just stop working. Has anyone have this happen to their P-7811 FX?
Also Gatway wants me to send it in but since I changed the BIOS and put in two other drives (raid 1) I'm affraid they will tell me I VOID my warranty because of what I did, I can put back the old HD but will the BIOS look for my Raid 1 drives and not work at all if they get it to turn on?
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Just remove one of the drives and do a factory install, they don't know which BIOS shipped with it.
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The hard drive that came with the unit is factory install. Can I remove my drives and just install the one it came with? Also what might the problem be? I'm guessing with PCs it can be anything but what might it be?
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Looks like J&R is out of stock on the 7808u-
http://www.jr.com/gateway/pe/GTW_P7808U/
Hopefully, one of those buyers stumble on NBR--
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Its under warranty, still have 5 months left
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Just did a measure on it. From the upper right, down to the lower left - corner to corner - it is exactly 2".
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Great- now all we have to do is wait for pmassey31545's result-
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can you kindly post a pic?
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Sure can. I'll have to do it tomorrow though.
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Well, I was able to do it sooner than I thought.
The quality of the pic kinda sucks, but you'll get the idea.Attached Files:
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You can see this is the other HS with the smaller copper.
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pmassey31545 Whats the mission sir?
I actually pulled mine(about 10 minutes ago) and took pics and measured. The lengthXwidth is 3/4" by 3/4". The diagonal is 1-1/8". Thats the actual copper on the sink itself that contacts the CPU. That is the measurement we need. How do you post those thumbnails as such. My pictures are HUGE!! Sorry.
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Hmmm-- Ze plot thickens...
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pmassey31545 Whats the mission sir?
Yeah. The HS I have is definitely NOT made for Quad support. Maybe one day but it ain't looking good......
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hey guys, i've just register to the forum but i read the thread and wanted to ask something for clarification about installing the qx9300:
so assuming you have the larger heatsink from the new 78xx installed (it can be installed on older 78xx right?) can the qx9300 physically sit on it just fine?
what would happen if you put it but have a non-quad support bios? (9c.12.00 for example)
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Does anyone know the flash device type? winbond etc
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That's the correct device
And that heatsink pictured is my fav when it comes to TZS0 problems, but I too doubt it will work with quad as it's smaller copper contact area prolly won't cut it. But that's the same sink some of the 7811s came with, and it works well.
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pmassey31545 Whats the mission sir?
I'll tell you this 7811CY, I installed a Q9100 and system won't boot or POST. Powers on but no POST. And I have the latest BIOS-9C.17.00. Only one that is newer to my knowledge is the one for the 7808u and it also has a Quad. So that's what we're all trying to get our hands on. I say E-wrecked should go buy one and figure it out cause he seems pretty knowledgeable about the subject and process. LOL!!
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Anyone knows the bios version on 7808u?
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What's the date of manufacturing for your laptop - when did you get your 7805?
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You don't know 'bout E-wrecked do ya?
most folks consider me an original pioneer of the 7-series FX. Who you think originated propping the rear of the system for cooling? Or the tzs0 workaround..I'm still holding the record @11.4k for 3dMark06 - I know a thing or two
*breaks arm patting own back*
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pmassey31545 Whats the mission sir?
E-wrecked, you are hilarious. I'm rolling in the floor. And I was being serious. Seems like you know alot. More so than I do. Just so you know I ran a 10752 on 3DMark just yesterday. I'm coming for ya'. Check this out- http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/5640/86299411.jpg Pretty good I thought.
As for when I bought it-Feb 20. Manufacture date-09/01/09. On the bottom of lappy. -
[QOUTE] As for when I bought it-Feb 20. Manufacture date-09/01/09. On the bottom of lappy.[/QUOTE]
That's incredible. You were able to buy a laptop that wasn't even manufactured yet- Lol! -
pmassey31545 Whats the mission sir?
I'm an idiot! 01/09/09 manufacture date. you got me k9hydr4. My mistake. But know this, it will not happen again. *evil laugh* Mooo oooh ha hah hah hah!!!!!
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i know this is out of topic but wanted to ask: the newer 9800m gts with the double ram doesn't really perform any better right?
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That's a respectable score on 3dmark, but you should try at 1280.1024 resolution to compare apples to apples. That will change your score a bit..prolly around 10-10.2k.
And the gts with more memory, that really won't change anything performance wise.. But it does limit you a touch if you try to overclock it. The 512 clocks are more generous. -
pmassey31545 Whats the mission sir?
I can't get 1280x1024!??? Don't know why.
Got 3DMark 06 Pro. Go figure. Highest I can get is 1440x900 -
Your LCD is maxed at 1440, at least according to your sig. Plug it in to an external would be the only way for you.
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Keith1341, when was your 7805u manufactured?
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pmassey31545 Whats the mission sir?
I'm afraid Keith measured the overall size, not just the sink. We really need the size of the copper portion of the sink, then we would know if GW has future plans. But why would they(GW) give us(the consumer) that ability to upgrade. If you were selling, wouldn't you rather the customer buy a whole new comp just for Quad Core. They won't make any money when you upgrade. Just the chip manufacturer will. So, see where I'm going?>>>>>>>>>
Official Gateway 78xx Series FX BIOS - 9c.05.00 thru 9c.17.00
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