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    ***Gigabyte P35X owner's lounge***

    Discussion in 'Gigabyte and Aorus' started by Cakefish, Nov 4, 2014.

  1. Cormogram

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    You can't force a customer to buy a service when you are selling a product[1]. That's a crime in most places that I know.

    [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tying_(commerce)
     
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    Ok, I replied to one, I'm not interested in starting a never-ending flame war that doesn't help the owners of the P35X. Good luck with whatever laptop you choose :)

    Edit: Removed flame-bait.
     
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    Thank you for the prompt response, the link was definitely very helpful.
    I have a question that is not shown in the video - however there is a picture for it on the link you sent earlier. It is the subwoofer cable next to the RAM slots. How do I remove this? which way do I pull/move in order for this to come off?
    I would not want to risk damaging it.
    As for the USB, I have tried F12 with a bootable USB, however the laptop keeps booting from the mSATA SSD - will have to look into the BIOS options as suggested.
     
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    Actually I could never get my cable to come out either so I just tilted the casing until it was out of the way haha. Good luck :)
    Yeah try booting from the BIOS but remember you may have to turn off secure boot to see certain OS boot devices. I had to do this in order to see my USB drive (for a test with let's say a fruity OS).
     
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    Has anyone had any success in reducing the fan noise by repasting and using a laptop cooler? If I disable turbo mode and run the cpu @ -75m voltage, I can get it to be semi-bearable, but under full-load without it this thing is terribly loud.

    Are there any programs where we can manually control the fan speed?

    Also, Does repasting void your warranty? Link? I couldn't find a definitive answer online.
     
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  6. jiexi

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    Yeah, that cable is quite pesky isn't it. Have you tried running a linux distro on this laptop? I'm scared of driver support or lack thereof.
    Warranty stickers are on the fan screws which do not need to be removed to repaste, so it should be okay to repaste
     
  7. jeanjackstyle

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    Repasting do not void the warranty; when doing so,you do not remove any sticker "warranty voided if broken", unlike on msi laptops. Beware, there are these stickers on the screws that hold the fans, but you don't need to untight them to repaste the heatsinks.

    As regards fan control, noise was bugging me too, I did not find a way to reduce it besides cooling the laptop at maximum, and using headsets ^^
     
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    Thanks for the info. What kind of temp drops did you see from repasting?
    I used XTU to reduce core speed and cpu boosting in order to keep the child around 80c on load for the CPU it keeps the fan from completely ramping up, but it's kind of annoying.
     
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    How many monitors can the p35x support? is it 2 or 3?
     
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    Turning off Secure Boot made my USB drive visible again - all clear!
    I am uploading a picture of the subwoofer cable. Without removing it I have no way of moving the bottom panel.
    Could someone add an arrow or a quick guide on how to remove it?
     

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    Gently wiggle it and pull towards the front of the notebook, or on your picture- down.
     
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    It is indeed tightly fitted. What I did is hold the black part with some tweezers,and make it move gently left and right while pulling along the green arrow I drew on attached pic.

    You can also use a flat screwdriver and make a kind of lever on it.

    Anyway, it is only the first time, afterwards it should come out more easily. uploadfromtaptalk1424174731596.jpg
     
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    Thank you that is very helpful!


    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
     
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    Well guys, after 4 months, this is the end of my P35X v3 adventure. Today I received my refund from OCUK and I'm going for a Clevo P650SG/P651SG.

    I fell in love with the P35X V3 because of it's superb featureset. Sadly, it seems to be too much for the little package Gigabyte is trying to fit it into. The throtteling issues, the wobbly keyboard, the unexplainable stability issues... The P35X V3 is a nice machine on paper, but in reality it has too many flaws for my liking.

    I wish everyone the best of luck with their P35X v3 :) !
     
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    Same here, its a nice machine but the ready-for-take-off fans have me sorely disappointed. I tried to remedy these issues with a cooling pad and utilizing XTU, but it seems counterintuitive to reduce clock speed and voltage just so you can hear the onboard audio over the fans.

    I ordered a MSI GS60 Ghost with the 970m 6gb. I have read good things about it, so I will see if it can perform substantially the same with a lot less fan noise. After testing both out, I will decide which one to keep.
     
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    Yes, this laptop can support 3 monitors. I tested by plugging one into hdmi and mdp and using the built in display.
     
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    Good luck with your new laptop Freekers, I hope it doesn't give you problems like the P35X did :) Mine is still running strong, but I'll be sure to post here if it does suddenly blow up.

    I've heard good things about the GS60. Nicer build quality, less noise, maybe less heat. It is also almost impossible to upgrade or tinker with, has a 970M, bad battery life and a (subjectively) worse screen (worse gamut, 4K is 48Hz). I wish there was a laptop that combined all the good things but there isn't (yet). I had to make that decision myself a while back after my first P35X's SSD turned out to be faulty but I came back to this thing. I suppose a big difference is I use headphones when I play games because I've had noisy laptops for years now (VAIO, Clevo and now Gigabyte). Good luck man.
     
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    Bleh, another double post, please delete. Are there even any mods here?
     
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    The noise also depends on what game you are playing. For example, it's pretty noisy when I play dai, but I can play Dota 2 on max for hours and have it be completely silent on stealth settings. Though if you were only going to play Dota this isn't the laptop for you...
     
  21. DelFang

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    One way to completely eliminate the fan noise is by running P35X on battery...30fps and 2hrs gaming time, or loud and powerful, your choice.

    Regards
     
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    I will have to try that, but does that limit core frequency? The biggest problem is that the most demanding games run like crap when you have to hamstring the processor.

    Today, I got the MSI gs60 ghost with the 970m 6gb card. It's a very nice laptop as well. Comparing the two laptops, I would say it's six in one hand and half a dozen in the other. The ghost is a quieter running machine, but it only comes in the 970 variant. The MSI runs much, much cooler, too. I think the screen is better on the Gigabyte and I like the overall looks of that machine better; however, the MSI has a nicer keyboard and is lighter machine.

    It's a tough call...if the MSI only came in a 980m variant, it would make it a much simpler choice.
     
  23. Arthedes

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    P35X V3 CF7 ordered, with an i7 4720hq, 16gb ram and a 512gb M550 SSD :D

    2330 euros
    Sent from my GT-I9300
     
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    You gave me an idea, I ended up choosing the custom setting for performance and decided to reduce my maximum under processor power management. This enabled me to reduce temps while still maintaining a higher level of FPS on BF4 and other games. I set my processor for a maximum of 75% and that helped keep temps around 70c for the cpu and kept my fan speed a lot lower. We will see how this works out.
     
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    I can keep the processor at 86% and the fans don't turn all the way up, probably 75%. That gets me a processor speed of 2.1 ghz on all four cores and games are obtaining good FPS. Temps are for the CPU are mid 70s and GPU is low 70s. I really feel like the fans could even turned down more, but Gigabyte wont let us play with those features.
     
  26. joe17301

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    If you set it to 99% it'll basically just turn off turbo mode. Turning off turbo really keeps the temps a lot lower. It's a pity gigabyte didn't do more with the cooling. The CPU working by itself in turbo is fine but that shared heatsink really brings a lot of heat from the GPU over to the CPU. If I play a game in say Medium settings the CPU and GPU temps are way better, but then there's no point in having a GTX980M is there. Oh well, maybe if we didn't have that shared heatpipe then the CPU would be fine and the GPU too hot :)

    Hey man, welcome to the club. It's a great laptop but I hope you've read all 144 pages of this forum to know what problems to expect :D

    Edit: Look at me, multi-quote and no double post. Wheeee.
     
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    I would repost my summary of the first 200 pages before the forum wipe, but that would be useless as many of the original posts are gone... such a pity.
     
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    Did we lose pages or did they just get re-organised (longer pages, therefore less pages)? I found your old post but obviously all the links are wrong now :/
     
  29. Arthedes

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    Is the GPU actually bottlenecked by the CPU when the CPU is throttled?

    Sent from my GT-I9300
     
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    I actually did haha!

    First thing I'll do is try to get the drivers setup correctly. Then I'll UV the CPU and after that maybe a repaste if temps are not to my liking :D

    Sent from my GT-I9300
     
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    You should give repaste a shot anyway, it is not that hard to do in this laptop and factory paste job absolutely sucks.
     
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    Do any of the GPU overclocking software work? I was thinking that if I disable boost and possibly UV the GPU it might help with temps as well

    I found another forum where they tested bottlenecking on the 980m, and at stock settings there really is not bottleneck. So, if I stay at stock settings with turbo boost disabled and keep the heat in check, I think I am going to keep my Gigabyte laptop. I think I am going to do a re-paste as well since it doesn't void the warranty and 4-5 extra degrees will help.
     
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    Personally I've never had the GPU throttle at all and I've never noticed throttling in games, even with the CPU throttling a lot. Heck, even with all my clocks set to 24x I've never seen throttling. Maybe it's just the games I play (DA: I, Crysis 3, Metro: LL, Wolfenstein, Shadows of Mordor, etc).

    I've noticed that the CPU throttles more the more you push the GPU. I ran Metro: LL at max settings with 2xSMAA (couldn't get 60fps, and not because of throttling). It made my CPU throttle but there was no stuttering or stuff like that in games which really says to me the CPU isn't a bottleneck. With all clocks set to 24x there was no throttling, temps were in the 80s and everything went fine. I also turned SMAA to 1x :p
     
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    Well, I repasted and playing Far Cry 4 at 2.5 ghz with a -50 UV. I am getting 73C on the CPU about that on the GPU as well. I am also using a U3 cooler. I will take that, the fans are not on full blast anymore.
     
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    Nice, well done, 70's are great :) I find turning back the CPU speed really helps with the temperatures. What detail level are you playing on?
     
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    So I finally got my P35Xv3-CF7 from newegg today.. So far I spent most of the time updating all the software/drivers etc. One thing I noticed with the wifi so far: It's def. a bit slower than my other laptops that have older wifi cards... it seems that the AC 7260 doesn't manage to get the same speeds as cards years older. I consistently get 4-5mbps less in speed tests with the P35X from the same location... a lot of times the speed test would start at around 50% of my actual speed and then climb up slowly (whereas my other laptops start at max speed from the get go and stay there). Anyone else noticed these slow wifi performance issues? I already uninstalled the ProSet software and just installed the latest drivers only.
    Gonna test the temps etc. soon and see how it does with Dying Light at max settings.
     
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    I've heard rumours about slower speeds on wireless N networks (unconfirmed) with the 7260AC but I use AC myself and there are no speed problems there.
     
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    Hi, I'm using AC as well (Neatgear R7000) and still see these speed issues... weird.. Which router are you using?
     
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    D-Link DIR-850L. Weird that, I wonder what could be the cause. Is there a firmware update for your router maybe? I know sometimes certain cards and certain routers have compatibility issues.
     
  40. jeanjackstyle

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    That's great!

    Edit: you can do further undervolting, especially if you are keeping your speed low (eggs create a profile for gaming)
     
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    Can you raid0 2 2.5" ssd's when you place one in the normal slot and one in the cd drive slot?

    Sent from my GT-I9300
     
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    Got this laptop a few weeks ago. It's a beautiful machine... Unless you want to connect to the wireless router two rooms away, in which case your card will pick up the presence of the network but be unable to authenticate or consistently connect. This is on Windows 7 AFTER updating the Intel wireless drivers.

    If there's a way to change the wireless card that comes with this otherwise great laptop, I'm all ears. I wish I had listened to the guy talking about his issues with the wireless earlier.
     
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    What thermal compound have you guys used in your repastes? Are the temps still holding up for you? I'm considering GC extreme at the moment.
     
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    Liquid pro, worked fantastic for me, but don't miss the application, especially in a laptop like this. I think you can't be wrong with the gc, it is one of the best non conducting thermal pastes.
     
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    I used arctic silver 5
     
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    guys.. thinking to go with this laptop.. but worried about temps and fan noise.. can any one just give an idea abt the readings which I should look for.
    CPU and GPU temperature and fan noise at normal load like browsing, videos and MS office .
    CPU and GPU temperature and fan noise while gamming at highest possible settings and also what are the default values and what are the possible values any one in the form has got down till now (Using thermal compound, undervolting) etc

    and the CF7 version has I7-4720Q .. already i7-4710 has got temperatures around 90c. So does 4720, not increase the temperatures more? and why did GB take such a decision? is there any particular reason for that?

    Thank you
     
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    Here's what I consider good values:
    Idle-Medium load: Noise <=40dB; CPU MaxTemp <= 65C
    High load: Noise <=50dB; CPU MaxTemp <= 85C
    That's hard to find in thin laptops though.
    I consider a +2dB and +5C tolerable if in all other aspects the product is satisfying enough.
    Probably because Intel is pushing 4720HQs now.
     
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    So, What about P35X values and is there any laptop close to those values in slim form factor?
     
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