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    ***Gigabyte P35X owner's lounge***

    Discussion in 'Gigabyte and Aorus' started by Cakefish, Nov 4, 2014.

  1. vivithemage

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    Good luck, only way I can see of doing it is to uninstall it.

    I did more testing with a fresh install of win 10 pro, and drivers, and got better results. I am still seeing some fluctuations in the GPU mem core clock. It bounces a few hundred mhz during CSGO...Rocket League it is pretty much solid.

    Performance is still on par with my 970gtx and i5 though... still very powerful laptop, pretty impressed still.

    I was able to use the nvidia.com drivers without issue too.
     
  2. inperfectdarkness

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    well it's day 2 of owning it...and i've got another odd problem. I'm playing trek online windowed. I leave the game running, browse the internet for a bit, but when i click back to the game, it's now running at about 1FPS & is largely unresponsive. Even minimizing it and maximizing it doesn't seem to fix it. I never had any issue on my GT60 with foreground/background switching & this problem. Any ideas?
     
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    Where can i get old BIOS for P35X V3?
     
  4. markjk7

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    You might need to email Gigabyte support.
    What is the issue with latest version? I've not updated from very old version on my P35w...

    Sent from my D5803 using Tapatalk
     
  5. Arthedes

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    Latest version is trying to keep CPU when idle at 45-50 C. So fans are running when doing nothing. Old drivers start fans when going over 60C.

    With fans turned off, my CPU is about 50-60C, so I can browse and watch netflix pretty much without running the annoying fans.

    I reverted back to the driver found on the gigabyte website but it is very old. I'd like to use the second newest driver (the one before the most new one).
     
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    I finally sent my RMA off. The process was not very straight forward and was clunky. The form they sent me to fill out and pack with the laptop seemed really outdated, and irrelevant to my laptop. It had core 2 duo and Athlons on the cpu list, nothing recent, the memory speed only went up to 1333, nothing for SSD, the OS section started with XP and went to win 7. Hope the techs are better than the admin side of things.
     
  8. inperfectdarkness

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    Here's one that's annoying me. After I wake the computer from hibernate, all my browser windows are TINY. Like maybe 768p size--not even 1080p size. I'm on a 4k screen & using Firefox. Has anyone found a solution for this?

    p.s.

    It also moves my icons to the upper left. Looks like about 1/4th the screen. So I'm gonna go on a limb here & guess that there's some kind of issue with the computer auto-resizing to 1080p?

    Any ideas on fixing it?
     
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  9. tyrannosaurus_rex

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    Have any of view tried undervolting with the v6 to prevent high temps / throttling?
     
  10. Porter

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    Yes, I UV the CPU for that reason, it helps a bit, I still think repasting as a must with the horrible factory paste job. My problem is I hate the way it can reset if you set it once with XTU and you wouldn’t know until the next time you check it.

    I plan to try using throttlestop for it once I get my repaired one back. I finally got throttlestop working on my main machine and now I think I know enough to set it up on my P35X.
     
  11. tyrannosaurus_rex

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    I only know about Intel manager. But how much did it help? Can you play demanding games under 80C or will the CPU and GPU go above that value even with that.

    How is stability?
     
  12. Porter

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    I don't really play any CPU demanding games, so I was able to play and the CPU peak in the 70’s with max fan on. I think the GPU was about the same. It’s been a few weeks since mine failed so I can’t double check anything currently.

    Undervolt may have only helped a very few degrees, but I figured any help was good as long as it didn’t cause any stability issues.

    That said, there were times when I saw the CPU or GPU peak in the 80’s but I can’t remember the specifics. It could have been when re-encoding a movie (CPU 100%) or when playing games with auto fans on, I’m sorry I just can’t remember exactly.

    I will try to use the stock paste again when I get mine back, but if I can’t keep the temps down I will go back to ICD on the CPU/GPU and thermal pads on the VRAM. I had huge gaps between heatsink and VRAM on mine that they just gooped a huge amount of thermal liquid on. Yes I do mean liquid, it was not very paste-like.
     
  13. tyrannosaurus_rex

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    Judging by what other people have said here and in reviews, just a few degrees would mean temps in the 80s not the 70s.

    Or were you having temps in the low 80s before undervolting?

    Yours failed? why?
     
  14. Porter

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    90’S stock out of the box, I’m thinking it was 10+ degrees on repaste, and maybe 3-5 on undervolt. Sorry I just don’t have solid data to back this up at this point. That was a month or two ago when I was tuning it and then I got my new laptop and I now have another whole set of numbers in my head.

    The max fan helps tremendously, for some folks that is not a viable option if in public, or at home with family in the room. For me I put on my headphones and max fan has no effect on me at all other than lower temps.

    My failed when I plugged in a USB cable to download pictures (for the sale of my old P870DM). The laptop went black, turned off instantly. I was never able to boot it up again. I am not sure if the cord was bad (cheap cord) or was just random bad luck. I threw the cord away since I didn’t want to risk it being the cause and creating another issue down the road. The port was good, and I have been using it for all sorts of other things prior to that point.
     
  15. tyrannosaurus_rex

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    Re-reading this, is a repaste that drastic? It's huge.

    But say, if you're getting temps in the 70s while gaming at max fan, what prevents you from setting them at 75% instead to get in the low 80s instead (which is still reasonable).
     
  16. Porter

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    Are there fan controls like that? I was thinking it was some form of auto or max. Since I have my headphones on there is no reason not to use max. But yes if you have control you sure could back down the fans a bit and get higher temps and less noise.

    Maybe my paste job was not typical, but it was a liquid bridging huge gaps on the vram, and smeared all over the board and components next to the vram and die's.
     
  17. tyrannosaurus_rex

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    Was it custom built by a reseller?
     
  18. Porter

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    No. Newegg.
     
  19. inperfectdarkness

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    If you still have gigabyte's Smart Manager, you can fine-tune your fan speed settings.
     
  20. epicninja

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    Is anyone else having usb issues? My phone won't stay connected when I plug it in, and usbs are fiddly. Phone works fine on any other pc.
     
  21. Porter

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    Yes I had that too, I googled it and found others have had similar issues over the years.
     
  22. epicninja

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    I assume you haven't found anything that fixes it? It is really a big oversight if nothing can be done.
     
  23. Porter

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    My system failed when I had it connected to my phone, and I'm still waiting to get it back from RMA. I think plugging it into a USB 2.0 hub off a laptop port seemed to fix it if I remember right, I'll have to try again when I get it back. I only plug it in when transferring pictures so it's a rare occurrence for me.
     
  24. epicninja

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    Alright thanks
     
  25. Jdpurvis

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    On a 4k screen, at native resolution and font sizes, everything will be tiny as compared with 1080p. You need to increase font size - 1.25 or 1.5 usually works pretty well, but see what you like. You should be able to set that and have it stick. You could, of course, run at 1080p, and that will look ok because it's a multiple - but it defeats the purpose of the 4k screen. A fair number of games will default to 1080p - that may be producing the shifts you are seeing. Of course, it (almost) goes without saying to check your video drivers and settings - Nvidia drivers are always a work in progress. Best, Joe
     
  26. inperfectdarkness

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    Yeah, hibernate doesn't seem to be as bad now...but damn. IDK if it was a patch/driver update or what. It wasn't font size. Literally everything was resizing to fit a 1080p screen & it was horrible.
     
  27. Porter

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    I stopped using hibernate years ago when the OS started coming on an SSD. I haven't checked in a while but at the time it took longer to hibernate and restore than just to clean shutdown and boot. You also avoid any weird issues like that.
     
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  28. inperfectdarkness

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    i keep a few programs running, so hibernate restores faster. and keeping it running would accumulate dust faster, since the fans keep turning.
     
  29. moomooplatter

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    So last Friday I decided to update to the 10th BIOS, from the 7th, as my system was starting to operate in a degenerate manner. Issues with the WiFi being hardware turned-off, problems with speakers not working properly, etc. So I used the terrible Smart Update software to update the BIOS. Then my P35x v4 froze up in Windows. I left it and calmed myself down, and let it just sit there for hours. I tried every key combo to no avail, Windows had completely locked up and was unresponsive. As a last resort, I hard reset the device, hoping that the software had finished writing to EEPROM enough for it to work enough for me to flash BIOS again in Safe Mode. But it appears that wasn't the case.

    So my P35x is now dead. It lights up the power light, and the disk light turns on for about 6 seconds when I press the power button, but the screen stays dark.. I've let it run for hours, turned it off and on again, etc. I have tried removing the battery and attempting to reset the BIOS to factory settings by holding down the power button for 30 seconds, and it still produces the same behavior. I haven't talked to Gigabyte Support yet, because firstly their website's email field won't let me put anything in it, and secondly I'm pretty certain there's nothing they can do for my 3 month out-of-warranty laptop.

    Anyone have any suggestions? If not, how the F can I retrieve the data off the P35x's silly RAID 0 mSATA drives?
     
  30. argen

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    Few suggestions:
    1. Use Gigabyte's own tool and roll back your BIOS: http://www.gigabyte.com/webpage/20/HowToReflashBIOS.html
    2. Force a downgrade from a backup in the BIOS: http://forum.giga-byte.co.uk/index.php?topic=14309.15
    3. The Asian guys at malls with 'laptop repair' businesses do sometimes have some crazy tools to force BIOS flashes. Might be worth the mulah.
    If all else fails, boot from a linux live cd and install mdadm to rebuild an array and get your data out.
     
  31. inperfectdarkness

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    I think I'm having an issue with one of the fans making noise. anyone else have this issue? Buzzing/humming from the back right corner.
     
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    Hi guys!
    I have a P35GV2 laptop and I keep getting 90°C+ CPU temp and 85°C+ GPU while playing Path of Exile. Actually, I get similar temperatures after just starting the game! I live in a hot place (26°C ambient temperature right now), so I guess this contributes a lot to these high temps.

    Could you guys help me out? What can I do to lower these temps? I though about repasting both CPU and GPU (I do have a spare artic silver 5 I could use), but I didn´t find any specific guides on how to do it on this laptop. Btw I bought a notepal U2 plus recently, but it didn't help lowering theses temps at all. Thanks for your help!

    Edit: the referred temps are with fans maxed out
     
  33. smartuy

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    Repasting is easy. Remove the cover, remove screws from fan + both heatsinks, then use coffee filters soaked in 90%+ alcohol to clean all the old thermal paste off. Then, apply a thin line of new thermal paste on the really shiny part of thr chips. Put the heatsinks back in place to smush the paste down, and screw everything back.

    "GTX 1080 in a thinbook is fine" -Razer
     
  34. Sptz

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    Hi everyone,

    I'm contemplating purchasing this laptop, the v6 version with a 1070. I have a favour to ask, could someone run LatencyMon for about 2 minutes and report if they do get DPC latency? I need a laptop for pro audio work thus low latency is paramount for me.

    Also, does it come with an Intel Wifi NIC or Killer?

    Thanks
     
  35. NeoXx

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    Hello,

    I own the Gigabyte P35X-V3 with the 3K IPS display.
    The display does a strange thing when the background changes from dark to light and vice versa:
    It seems to change the contrast and takes some time to update or I have to manually change the brightness down and up again
    and then it will be fine.

    This has been going on from the moment I bought it.

    Anyone experienced this?
     
  36. invertednz

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    Hey all, I'm considering getting a p35xv6 or the aero 14. I need a minimum of 4 hours battery and weight is important because I'm traveling this year. I guess you guys might be the best people to ask. The p35 is $1599 and the aero 14 v6 is 1599 with the 14v7 being 1699. I'm a little worried about the weight of the p35 and the heat, otherwise it just seems better spec than the aero14. Also if I do get an aero14 is it worth the $100 for the v7?

    Thanks!
     
  37. inperfectdarkness

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    Battery life & heat are a function of what you do on it--almost as much as it's a function of how the laptop was designed. I like the thickness of the p35xv6, but since it tends to run hot on extended gaming (i have 4k screen) and the right side fan has all but died...i'm not sure I can recommend a gigabyte. I'm definitely leaning towards a Clevo next time--praying that it doesn't bite me in the tuckas like the sager 8662 did. twice.
     
  38. invertednz

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    Yea my msi gs60 with a 970 runs hot even when browsing the net... but it has been a great laptop, I would use it if it wasn't for the 2 hour battery life it has now. That sucks about your clevo, I had one before my msi but they are way too heavy for me to take while traveling.
     
  39. inperfectdarkness

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    It's MSI's fault. What's so difficult about pairing a GTX 1070 with a UHD screen in 15.6"? Did they go full DERP over there?
     
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    Does your p35x regularly throttle under gaming loads? (I'm fairly sure it does under unrealistic synthetic loads, as all p35x's will, but I mean strictly gaming.)
     
  41. inperfectdarkness

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    i haven't watched the clocks. too busy worrying about temps to notice.
     
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    To be frank I didn't care enough to check, it ran Witcher 3 at 2560x1080 with high settings at 30-45 fps (depending on the surroundings) over 5+ continuous hours so I didn't bothered to check.

    But it does get hot and fans go loud but I can still hear the ambient in the game (80% on display speaker, 60% on ambient setting), so external mechanical keyboard and headphones are prefered.

    Regards.

    Defan

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  43. EvilTak

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    Hey guys, just performed a thermal repaste on my P35X v3, and I'm moderately happy with the results. While most of the GPU thermal throttling is eliminated, the CPU still throttles a bit and the GPU starts throttling itself slightly after around 15 minutes of playing. I suspect this is because my fans have suddenly decided to tone themselves down for no reason. Before the repaste, the fans would spin up at full speed whenever they got a chance, but now even setting the fan speed to 100% in the Smart Manager doesn't make them spin. Even if they do, they do not reach full speed even when the CPU reaches ~92 degrees C. Did I do something wrong when removing/replacing the heat sink (and positioning those plastic sheets at the fan outlets) or is this a software problem? The system cooling policy is set to Active, and I have not changed anything before or after the repaste. Also, the ambient temperatures are very high (35-40 C) where I live. Is there no way I can prevent GPU thermal throttling at such high ambient temps besides using coolers and thermal repasting?

    EDIT: While playing a game, the laptop crashed (froze, no BSOD) probably because of the undervolt I was testing, and as soon as it crashed, the fans cranked up to full speed. This leads me to believe that it must be a software problem, and not a hardware/BIOS problem. Any ideas what is causing this?
     
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    P35X v7

    Cannot wake from sleep using USB Mouse/Keyboard!

    Seems like this is a know problem with Gigabyte Laptops.

    I don't understand how in this day and age this would be acceptable when you spend $2,000 on a laptop that you want to use as a desktop replacement.

    Coming from a MSI GS60 for the GTX1070.

    Not getting a good feel after my first experience with Gigabyte Laptops!
     
  45. medfreak

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    I have a P35x v3 (980m, 4710Hq)

    So there is a relatively new (at least to me) firmware update that I am trying to get released on 2017/03/16 "FA10 FC10 & EC F019":

    http://www.gigabyte.us/Laptop/P35X-v3#support-dl

    Everytime I try to update it I get this:

    Error.jpg

    Any ideas ?
     
  46. EvilTak

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    That BIOS version is for Windows 7 and not Windows 10 (it says so on the site). For Windows 10 you need to flash the FB10 FD10 version.
     
  47. medfreak

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    I quoted the wrong version I used in my post. If you look at my screen shot, I actually used the correct version which is the B10D10. Anyway I figured it out finally I just extracted the .exe setup into a folder and then ran the SmartFlash as administrator, instead of just the installer.

    I thought this bios update would help with an issue with my Fan. It seems no matter what I do on Smart Manager, trying to custom set my fan speed, nothing happens to my fans. They only ramp up when the temprature rises, but I just can't set them to 100% at all times on the custom setting. Any idea why that is the case?
     
  48. EvilTak

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    That's exactly what I'm trying to figure out. I recently contacted Gigabyte support, but all they did was say why they removed the full fan speed option, not how to get it back. I'd like the fans to spin up fully before the GPU throttles, not after, and hence not allow it to throttle at all.

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  49. medfreak

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    I see. Do you know if they removed it at the BIOS level or with a Smart Manager software? Would it be possible to just look for an older version of Smart Manager and see if it works?
     
  50. EvilTak

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    Most likely BIOS level (at least that's what Gigabyte says). It's worth trying an older version of Smart Manager (the one which had the Extreme fan mode) though, but that is only if you can find it somewhere. I haven't had much luck, but do let us know if you do find a version that works.
     
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