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    NEW Aero 14 w/ GTX1060

    Discussion in 'Gigabyte and Aorus' started by ericheadlo, Oct 31, 2016.

  1. elcid79

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    Hey guys,

    I have hardly used my brand new laptop due to a long hiking trip. Generally I like it a lot, but I am having some serious stability issues. I can not browse the internet without receiving a power state failure BSOD. Has anyone else experienced this issue? I have received the same BSOD no less than a dozen or more times, in the limited hours that I have used the computer. (aside from rebuilding it, I would say less than 7-8 hours of actual use.)

    I rebuilt it from scratch a few days after receiving it in hopes of resolving the issue, but it persists. This is with a virgin build, with the latest drivers and latest BIOS.

    Any help would be greatly appreciated.


    Thanks in advance.
     
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    Hey , AFAIK , the power state failures occur when one or many of the drivers make a device accidentally sleep when it's actually in use . Is the Wifi settings set to max performance?. How about the PCIE Link management setting? Is your iGPU set to max performance?

    If nothing works , you could try Win7 and see if the drivers misbehave on it too .
     
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    It is kind of a no-name chinese adapter, so I doubt I'll find drivers for it. I did a quick googling and it seems that not many people are interested in using MHL-HDMI adapters on their computers (moreso on their tablets / phones).

    I tried in Windows and Ubuntu. I can at least confirm that Ubuntu sees the hardware with "lsusb". I'm not too invested in getting it to work, but I thought maybe that would be a way to trick the laptop into giving hdmi output with the iGPU.
     
  4. Reader165

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    Can anyone use Windows Hello feature with the Creator's update?
     
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    if anyone has FB02 bios. That would be great.
     
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    Just run it like any other update and follow on screen instructions.

    The copy I have is for Windows 10 64bit
    http://www.filedropper.com/p64v7biosb02ec002win10
     
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    Tekken 7 runs beautifully on the 1060.
    1440p , ultra @ solid 60 fps .
     
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    Asside from changing the power plan device by device, is it possible to somehow isolate which device is causing the failure? Perhaps in the crash logs? Thanks for the advice.
     
  9. Reader165

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    Can you look at the event viewer after the BSOD? For me, it used to me nvlddkkmsy. The nvidia graphics driver. If you also see this error, try turning off the nvidia gpu from the bios and see if the issue persists. I fixed this overall following NVIDIA support and reinstalled the version they referred.
     
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    Hello, I have a question to the battery/ AC adapter.

    The AC adapter of the Aero 14 is a 150 watts adapter. Is the Aero 14 also compatible with my old laptop's one which has 120 watts? Or is it only working with a 150 one?
    Thank you!
     
  11. bruor

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    If you don't use the 150 it might actually drain the battery during gaming. But your laptop will attempt to draw 150 from the supply which might not be good for either device.

    Sent from my Nexus 6P using Tapatalk
     
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    If you don't use the 150 it might actually drain the battery during gaming. But your laptop will attempt to draw 150 from the supply which might not be good for either device.

    Sent from my Nexus 6P using Tapatalk
     
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    Hi

    I'm having a weird issue with my Aero 14 that cropped up out of nowhere.

    Windows 10 simply refuses to shut down. It shows the "shutting down" screen and the the screen goes black. However, the power button lights and indicator LEDs are still on. After about 15 minutes, its rebooted back to the lock screen. Anyone seen this before?
     
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    Have a look in event viewer under windows/system. This might give a clue.

    Sent from my Plus E using Tapatalk
     
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    IMPORTANT HEADS UP FOR OWNERS LOOKING INTO UPGRADING TO THE LATEST CREATORS UPDATE

    Guys, I was meant to post this up the other day after my initial findings but I've only just remembered to now. I first discovered this on a brand new 7700HQ Aero 14 that I was working on for a friend the other day - before commencing with the Creators Update, it is imperative that you do a complete backup image of all the original Gigabyte partitions FIRST beforehand. The reason for this is that after upgrading to the Creators Update, the original Gigabyte partition is somehow messed up / corrupted in the process and if you attempt to carry out either the F9 factory reset / Reset this PC option to restore back to factory default, the built in Gigabyte recovery program simply kicks you out of it when you attempt to start the process.

    This may be automatically rectified by Windows / Gigabyte in time but for the time being - please bare this in mind before upgrading. In order to backup your original Gigabyte partitions, download & install the free version of Macrium Reflect free in order to carry this out. The complete partitions together as one image (I believe there should be five partitions in total, as per Disk Management within Windows) should take up around 60GB on a backup drive.

    Many thanks - Liam.
     
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    I discovered that this works completely fine on the Aero 14 as well.

     
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    Could you explain a bit in detail? Which executable is he talking about ?

    Edit 1 : Got it . Now the touchpad is much precise with precision gestures.
     
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  19. HussainQ

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    Check the following quote as well. I basically ran the first setup file, which extracted the installer contents to C:/DRIVERS/......., then I edited Setup.ini in that same folder so that CheckHWID=0, then did the steps below. Once that's done and you reboot, install the other stuff through Setup.exe.
     
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    150 watts is already pushing it if the CPU and GPU are under load...so even if the plug for the 120 watts fits and the voltage is the same, it is not recommended unless it is for light use using the iGpu...even then I wouldn't recommend it. An adapter with the same voltage but higher amps and thus watts shouldn't be an issue.

    Sent from my SM-G930F using Tapatalk
     
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    Hello guys, could you help me

    Yesterday I left my laptop while still charging. When I got back, my laptop powered off by itself and cant be turned on. After I press the power button, only power+battery indicator turned on, and the power button itself for several seconds, and then it shutdown by itself. The LCD not showing anything, even only the BIOS itself. I want to open the back cover, but I'm afraid it will void its warranty since there is 2 screw with some kind of black sticker covering it (I think its a seal).

    Thanks in advance!
     
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    I am going to order an Aero 14 from amazon and saw that there are 2 different sellers one is Gigabyte and the other is XcaliberPC they are the same price, but the XcaliberPC one includes a bundle of stuff with it. Is there any benefit from ordering it from Gigabyte or should I just get it from XcaliberPC to get the free stuff?
     
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    Have you considered the aero 15? I'm wishing now I would have held off and bought that one instead.
     
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    Same
     
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    I would rather have more portability and a cheaper price cause the 14 already stretching my budget a bit, but what are the advantages besides thinner bezels, larger screen, thunderbolt 3, and slightly better cooling?
     
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    I think that sums it up pretty much. You could also mention that the Aero 15 is ever so slightly larger than the Aero 14 so should still fit in the same cases/covers as the Aero 14. The rest are clear disadvantages (i.e worse QC, worse (maybe) battery life, awkward camera placement).
     
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    If the Aero 15 is larger, the fitted cases and covers for Aero 14 won't fit the Aero 15... unless someone tests each one and reports whether it works or not.

    Why do you think Quality Control (QC) will be worse? All mass produced laptops have a percentage of anomalous variance for fitment and function.

    You need to test every laptop quickly and completely when you first get it, so you can return it with cause before the initial acceptance period expires - usually 10-30 days - check with the seller / receipt / invoice for return, restocking fee's, and exchange rules.

    *** OFFICIAL GIGABYTE AERO 15 OWNERS LOUNGE ***
     
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  28. bruor

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    The keyboard is upgraded a little, and there's a second m.2 slot
     
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    The main highlights for the Aero 15 are the screen (gorgeous with no bezels, calibrated out of the box) and the extra M.2 slot. Even the thunderbolt 3 wouldn't be a main reason for me getting the 15" variant over the 14", since I still have no clear use for it (Maybe in the future, but I don't look much ahead anyway).

    By the way, I'm in the same dilemma, but my case is a bit different. I have made a decision to pick a choice between these two:

    Aero 14 (Maxwell)
    - i7 6700HQ
    - GTX 965M 2GB
    - 16GB DDR4 2133Mhz
    - 256GB SATA3 SSD
    - 2 SSD slots
    - 1080p IPS panel
    - 94Wh battery
    - USB 3.1 Type C
    - White backlit keyboard
    Price is 1200Euros, new and sealed.

    Aero 15 (Pascal)
    - i7 7700HQ
    - GTX 1060 6GB
    - 16GB DDR4 2400Mhz
    - 256GB SATA3 SSD
    - 2 SSD slots
    - 1080p IPS panel, calibrated
    - 94Wh battery
    - Thunderbolt 3
    - RGB backlit
    Price is 1950Euros, new and sealed.

    Looking at the specs, do you guys think 750Euros is worth the upgrades? I'm a student, and 750Eur could go for much more interesting things (An Extra SSD for the cheaper model and a few months of savings as I'll be studying abroad). The main and only benefit for me in paying such premium would be the massive jump in GPU power (1060 is double the power of the 965M). Everything else is so-so, things I could live with and without.

    Sent from my SM-N900 using Tapatalk
     
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    Depends if you game, the 1060 is a beast and gigabyte have done an amazing job with cooling.
     
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    You really can't compare pricing for a discontinued 965m model laptop, against a brand new 1060 + Kabylake laptop. The performance difference is huge, well worth $750 more.

    If you really want a 965m model, then try to find a nice lightly used one, and save even more. You should be able to find one for about $500-$800. That would be a nice savings over $1200.

    https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_sacat=0&_sop=15&_nkw=laptop 965m&_dcat=177&rt=nc&LH_ItemCondition=3000&_trksid=p2045573.m1684

    There are a lot cheaper 1060's out there as well, give up a little slimness and gain a lot better cooling, maybe even a 17.3" screen - protect your vision long term. You can get a 1070 in a full sized 17.3" laptop for that same $1950.

    And, at $1200 you can get a new 1060, 1050ti, 1050, etc, no sense dropping down to the previous generation GPU - Maxwell, that's like almost 3 years old now - your laptop value will drop instantly and keep getting worse over time.

    Better to get a new Pascal model, or even a Ryzen / Polaris laptop now to hold value over time.
     
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    @hmscott @bruor

    Yes, you both are right. The GTX 1060 is the undisputed choice when looking for a gaming machine, and most maxwell models are not worth it today. Here're some remarks though:

    1- My biggest priorities for a next laptop are: New, light, within a reasonable budget as long as it's worth it, and battery life. Many of my friends own used performance laptops, but they're usually very bad when it comes to battery life. I'm avoiding used laptops for this sheer reason.

    2- Gaming is also not a priority, so a GTX 1060 might be very overkill for the games I play most (dated at 2012 and older), but it's a very welcome upgrade. I've checked all the games I'll be playing on the weekends, and the 965M is plenty great for 1080p60 at formidable settings. GTA V is the only demanding of bunch, and it should also run fine with few compromises.

    3- I said gaming is not a priority, so what gives? I need power on the go for engineering programs and productivity for the lulz. So it'll basically be a do-it-all laptop and an occasional gamer when I'm abroad (I own a PS4 Pro for actual gaming). Will the two laptops be enough for my programs, definitely, as databases love quad core CPUs and RAM xD

    4- I could have easily gone for a Gigabyte Sabre 15 (Costs 1200 as well and has a 1050Ti) or an MSI GE72 with the 1050Ti and a 120Hz screen, or an MSI GP62VR with the 1060 3GB, or an ASUS GL553VD.... There really are PLENTY of choices for me to pick from the shop, and they all are very solid. But they lack portability and battery life! MSI batteries are the worst, followed by the Sabre and the ASUS comes first (But only has a 1050, which is close to a 965M and costs 1100Euros with no SSD).
    I've basically studied all the possible choices for a budget of 1000-1300Eur, and none comes close to the Aero 14 for WHAT I need. Hands down!

    5- This exact 1200Eur Aero 14 used to cost 1550Euros when it was announced, with the 970M model only a tad bit more expensive, but it's out of stock. The price went down by 350Euros for a new model, which I find convincing enough to still pick one. None of the similarly priced machines offwr the same portability and battery life.

    I hope it's all clear now, sorry for the long arse reply!

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    I find it hard to believe a low end Maxwell GPU is the best choice in the $1000-$1300 range :)

    There are a lot cheaper than $1950 1060's out there, give up a little slimness and gain a lot better cooling, maybe even a 17.3" screen - protect your vision long term.

    You can get a new 1060, 1050ti, 1050, etc, Pascal laptop right now. There is no sense dropping down to the low end previous generation Maxwell GPU, your laptop value will drop instantly and keep getting worse over time.

    Better to get a new Pascal model, or even a Ryzen / Polaris laptop now to hold value over time.

    Do yourself a favor and spend a little more time looking :)
     
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    I definitely have been living this whole dilemma before you even mentioned it. xD

    If I am to give up some weight, the next category would be the 15" machines with the 1050/1050Ti (The 1060 MSI model gets a bit on the hotter side even in normal usage, according to a friend who owns it, and the screen/build quality are mediocre so I'm avoiding it). They all weigh the same as my current Acer laptop (which I honestly find uncomfortable to hold and move in a bag), so I'm not really sure if it's a good idea. XD

    The laptop that caught my eye most is the MSI GE72 7RE: 17", 120Hz screen, TN but a LOT better than the current panel I'm using, 7700HQ, 1050Ti, 256GB SSD + HDD. Pretty much a complete performance package and it costs 1300Euros. The biggest drawbacks are battery life (Less than half of the Aero 14, which is a massive deal breaker), and the weight (2.9kg vs 1.8kg).

    AHH, I can't make up my mind.

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    If you've been looking since the 965m model was new, that's a long time, and a lot of changes in the market too. And, still people have been waiting for the lower end Pascal GPU models to ship, but it looks like the 1050ti models are now available, here's some google shopping hits (USA/CA):

    Here's a 15.6" Gigabyte Sabre 1050ti 7700HQ for $1099

    The 17.3" Gigabyte Sabre 1050ti 7700HQ for $1294

    Here's a special deal on the Sabre 17 :)

    GIGABYTE Sabre 17K-KB3 17.3 FHD I7-7700HQ DDR4 16GB M.2 256G+1T GTX 1050 Ti W10H Gaming Laptop
    http://www.ncix.com/detail/gigabyte-sabre-17k-kb3-17-3-fhd-dc-141251.htm

    $1,699.98 CAD (Est. $1,276.26 USD)
    May not be Available at All Locations.
    Savings Code 141251-1601. SAVE $400.00 off our regular price of $2,099.98 if you buy today! Special price ends soon.
    BONUS! Get 1700 NCIX Rewards if you buy today!
    Web Only

    You may have to hunt them down where you live, but they are now shipping. Other make / model 1050ti's, and 1060's are available in your price range too.

    If you've been looking for a long time, and are ready to finally purchase now, don't give up the hunt - reinvigorate it :)
     
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    Here's a special deal on the Sabre 17 :)

    GIGABYTE Sabre 17K-KB3 17.3 FHD I7-7700HQ DDR4 16GB M.2 256G+1T GTX 1050 Ti W10H Gaming Laptop
    http://www.ncix.com/detail/gigabyte-sabre-17k-kb3-17-3-fhd-dc-141251.htm

    $1,699.98 CAD (Est. $1,276.26 USD)
    May not be Available at All Locations.
    Savings Code 141251-1601. SAVE $400.00 off our regular price of $2,099.98 if you buy today! Special price ends soon.
    BONUS! Get 1700 NCIX Rewards if you buy today!
    Web Only
     
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    @hmscott
    Actually, the 965M model caught my eye for 6 months now, as I'm looking for every single option that's available or new. I got the release price from a cached page with laptops prices very similar to the shop I'm visiting.

    Thank you for sharing the Web offers!
    I'm buying the laptop through a Spanish reseller nearby (which offers a year of Warranty + an extra free year for students). You should already know most laptops in Spain cost a tad bit more than the US pricing. Depending on the laptop, differences can range from 50Eur to 150Eur.
    Another issue for me is the fact not all models are available here, so I'm left with a limited collection.
    Sabre 15 with the 1050Ti, 7700HQ, 128GB SSD + 1TB HDD costs 1296Euros here, for instance. Lower end model with the GTX 1050 and no SSD costs 1066Euros. The pricing is a bit weird here but that's how it is!
    Aero 14 with the 965M costs 1194Euros, which is similar to the MSI GP62MVR with an i5 CPU and the 1060 3GB.

    Sent from my SM-N900 using Tapatalk
     
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    So does anyone have experience with EXcaliberPC?
     
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    I tried it out . Bumped the refresh rate to 65hz and the panel shows a black screen followed by extreme artifacts. I was unable to revert back to 60hz in the intel graphics panel . But when I disabled dGPU from BIOS , I was able to login into Windows to switch back to 60hz . These are my initial observations without trying any manual adjustments. I do not recommend doing it on your daily
    driver laptop.

    If any of us are able to push the interface limit to a higher refresh rate , please share a guide
     
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    I got the same issue. I did follow the guide to set the custom refresh rate through the intel graphics suite, which does go back to default if you don't confirm the change within 10 seconds. Artifacts (horizontal lines across the screen) took a while to disappear.
    Did you use the driver from intel's website (the drivers from intel don't allow brightness control on this laptop).

    I'm going to do an additional test for 1080p @ 75Hz as native res might be too high for the display.
    Then I'll do the same on the other driver.

    Edit: 75Hz was automatically added for 1080p as well, but got the same results. I'm now deleting the old mode and adding a new one for 1080p at 72Hz and will see how that works.
     
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    I am using 4678 and it allows brightness control. Yeah , pushing refresh rates at lower resolutions makes sense , but the nVidia GPU somehow intervenes . It would be nice to atleast achieve higher refresh rates at 1080p , would be nice for gaming
     
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    The driver I mentioned earlier no longer allows it. Did you install the driver directly from intel's website? Are you on the Kaby Lake variant of the laptop? (I'm on Skylake)
    As for the 1080p refresh rate, all refresh rates I've tried blackscreen, so I guess it only works for the native resolution. Another thing I read is the this eDP display has a maximum pixel clock of 240MHz, and the native 2560*1440 resolution is already at ~238MHz, so any increase makes the display unstable.
     
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    I am on the Kabylake Aero . Installed intel drivers from it's own update utility.
    I guess our LG philips panel is out of luck with higher refresh rates . Have you tried manual settings to not exceed interface limit of 240 Mhz?
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    1080p hits the 240Mhz limit at 102Hz refresh rate . Let's say we use a safe 90Hz , we aren't causing the black screen due to the interface limit . I guess the dGPU or the intel drivers is creating the instant black screen
     
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    I did, unfortunately it did not work. Guess I'll have to abandon this, had high hopes for it.
    Funny how the driver messes up brightness controls only for me :l
     
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    For once , you could ditch the generic drivers and try the Gigabyte's recommended driver from Smart Update . Might fix the brightness issue.
     
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    Unfortunately Gigabyte's recommended driver is very outdated (from August 2016), so would love to keep up to date. If all else fails, I do have the .4536 drivers that worked fine from last December.
     
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    Is there a chance to uninstall the ELAN drivers and use Windows Precision Drivers instead? Every time I try to uninstall, they reinstall themselves after reboot.
     
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    Also, that's not how precision drivers work. You have to install a driver that's compatible. If you uninstall a driver, it will revert to the default drivers for the device.
     
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    Thank you, and where do I download the *.exe file and how do I install the driver via "ETD.in"?
     
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