[HowTo] SO-DIMMs Extreme: Boost 1600 to 2133 and beyond / JEDEC & XMP

This is the result of yesterday flashing James, what do u think?
Should i try second profile or call it a day?

 

I will try the CL10

How do you flash with the free demo?

 

u cant,for write access u need the paid version, but its only like 20 bucks

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Ahhh I can't buy it, parents won't allow me to

 

James, Unfortunately i had to go back to stock speed, because i was experiencing bsods/app crashes with stick flashed.

Probably its because im ocing the cpu as well. If you have any thoughts about it im here.

In other words, its fine for benching, but on the long run system is instable.

 

Of course OC ing CPU matters. You OC it on 2% or so. you may think that it is not much but pay attention that 4-5% for RAM is already different CL timng. And don't forget that this RAM is already somewhat OCed

I send you 2 profiles:
- the safest CL11
- the fastest CL12.

And I send you a picture of what is changed in them.
If for some reason you decide to change it again you should:
0. watch this video Thaiphoon Burner - Corsair Vengeance #2.mp4 - YouTube
1. open my 1-st mod sent to you by Taiphoon
2. Change timings which are underlined by red
3. And add support for CL timings you want (just set all you want and check the box for each of them).
4. Apply and set the box UPDATE HEX Editor.
5. Press report button and make sure that at the end you see table with all speeds like 533, 667, 800 and 933. If not then you didn't add support for some CL timings. If there are too many timings for 1 speed like 9-9-9-... and 10-9-9-... then you don't need support for CL10. etc So you may or may not to uncheck that boxes in CL support.
6. Don't forget to check checksum (it fcorrects in auto mode but for safety measures press EEPPROM, Correct checksum) save as dump.

 

Have you guys tried cpu tweaker on your notebooks? The program is meant to change timings on the fly.

Tweakers.fr

It may work on some machines. At least partially.
Doesnt work on my S13 tho.

 

Does it work on HM65 platforms?

 

Another program which may work to change mem timings is new mem tweakit. It supports desktop ivy bridge, but i have no idea about mobile ivys.

memtweakit.zip

 

The HM65 is a sandy bridge mobile :/

 

It does not harm your notebook to try. If it load up, check if you can adjust any timings and if you can, then verify it with cpuz.

 

I applied lower timings but when I click save it says if I am sure that I want Windows load with this timings. Actually I am not sure. I remember when I flashed RAM stick to such low one I barely could boot without blue screen and would bluescreened in couple seconds after boot. So if it be the same how can I fix it? Will I have to reinstall OS? I am talking about Memset

 

It does not save the actual bios with lower timings. After the reboot it stays as default.

 

Yeah, that I know. I am not a noob. But do you know how manualy can I set OS to default timings in case it will not boot. Because program definitely either changes OS settings or it starts automatically and then set timings to smth what is saved.

i would be happy if it is second one. But there is no FAQ to make sure at least I did not find anything.

Can you ask this on extreme forum? because I kinda lazy to create account there.

 

I have used memset in past myself, when i had X48.
As far as i know, if RAM cant take your timings when system freezes and when you restart your system then you will run your bios configuration. So its totally safe to try out your ram limit with this.
However i recomend to use your backup OS while testing. It can happen that you will corrupt your windows files when system freezes. This hasnt happened since i went to SSD, but happened several times with me while i was using HDD as OS harddrive.
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But to be sure on what im saying, you could just test it out by for example setting CL to 1 point higher, saving and restarting your PC. After that you can verify, if the settings are saved in OS or in program. I am close to 100% sure that they are not, but i wouldnt bet my house on it.

 

Thanks,
I've seen both videos an screenshot.

So assuming I want to keep my OC over the CPU, what you suggest?

Should I bring down values, or raise them?

As I said at first glance, it was working fine.

I'm asking becaue I'm a total noob and I don't understand values, what they do.

So to keep my OC over CPU, I need to stabilize my ram timings?

Can you mod an example profile in order for me to understand how to do it, or what values to use?

Thanks

 

If your bclk is 103 when your ram is 820/1640mhz, which is not much over 1600, but being too close to limit, can still make it unstable. Was your system completely stable at bclk 103 earlier? Unstability can be caused by too high bclk which also drives and PCIe frequency at the same level.
You could just settle with a little higher latencys which are stable, if you want to keep your 103bclk.

 

Yeah system is completely stable with stock spd which is as you said a bit over 1600.
It was not stable at 103, but it is at 102,94, I did a full run of IBT at Max stress and used intel XTU stress test as well.
What you advice? Keeping CPU OC and stock ram, or going back to stock CPU with 1866?
Which is the best?

 

id say u deff get more of an everyday perf boost in apps and games with a cpu oc than with a ram oc

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@Kingpinzero But I already did! I sent you 2 other profiles to use. And ONLY if you decide to do smth else THEN you might want to do it yourself.

You don't need to know what every number means. All you need to do is only increasing highlighted numbers on the same percentage level. It is math.
Then press report button and add support for CL timings.

But this is only if you will not like my 2 profiles attached in previous post.

Please people, read more carefully before write. This is not about RAM flashing.

 

James maybe I didn't explained myself.
First and foremost I hope you're not mad for whatever reason since I didnt meant to you off.

I like your profiles, I'm sure they are perfect, but:

- I have my CPU OCed as you see, and I want to keep it that way. However I can't leave it OCed along with ram overclocked because I'm experiencing instability

- I tried only profile 1. Profile 2 is faster as you said; but if it's faster that means also that has different timings right? If I'm not stable with profile 1, probably I will have a ton of issues more with profile 2? I'm just assuming.

- its ok for me to not understand what values I have to modify. You said I have to increase them. You said its math. On what principle I adjust them if I don't understand how much should I increase them? I'm not sure about how math rule should I use.

That's all, as you can see I'm confused. I'm ok modding it myself, althought I want to use yours, but I'm not stable for the love of god, lol.

Thanks for your time and effort, I know that I can be a difficult person sometimes

 

Did you see attached profiles to this post? Did you use that attached profiles?

Just tell me please yes, you used or no, you didn't.

The 2nd profile I send is fastest CL12 but it is slower than any Cl11. the bigger value it is the slower it is. So CL12 is slower than CL11. There may be many different CL11 or CL12 profiles. 1 CL has many sets of latency inside.

Please use 2nd if you didn't use it. Lets stop at this point for now.

P.S. Yes, I know that OCing CPU gives more than RAM.

 

Jesus, NOW i can see the attachment.

Please forgive me if i pointed out those things, but i had some forum issues (i had 404 on each page i clicked) and i didnt saw your new mods AT ALL.

Im going to test the CL12 as you said, to see if im stable, and report back.

Really really really sorry but i dont know why i cant still visualize correctly the forum!

 

Hi all,

I am looking for -thp file for Kingston Hyper X 1600 2x8Gb for optimal settings. Can anyone help me? I am using the modules in a Dell E 6520, so no XMP

So far I got this out of my 1600 modules...:



Thanks!

harry

 

first things first....does your machine have a setting for 1866 in the bios?

 

Nope. Dell Latitude E6520 bios autodetect clock settings. So no, I cannot force this.....

 

i dont think it's going to work, but here is the file. use at your own risk and only flash one stick.
ftp://ftp.say-it-loud.com

 

Is this for 8Gb or 4Gb sticks?

KR H

 

this is for the 4gb, if you have 8's it's not going to work even if your bios let it.

 

can some tell me how to order Thaiphoon Burner without like faxing them stuff? it keeps telling me that you cant have a free email count or something like that

 

Where is the location of the driver that needs to be signed? I can use Driver Signing Over-rider to sign the un-signed driver so I can run Thaiphoon burner whenever I want. If someone can post the driver location. I can upload the Driver Signing Over-Rider.

 

chris89, just choose "Run as administrator" form a context menu of Thaiphoon.exe and nothing more. Make sure you are using version 7.5.0.0 and higher.

 

Also it may help to disable driver signature inforcement on startup (F8).

 

Im at 1866mhz 9-10-9-21 now, the 3740QM refuses point blank to touch 2133mhz, but has let me tighten timings at 1866mhz which is more use to me to be honest.

 

has anyone tried to post 2400 on their samsung memory with ivy bridge platform?

 

would be very interesting

 

Hi,
Can anybody help me?
Doesn't boot my asus g75 with corsair 2x4gb 1866mhz memories.
I only use slot 1 and slot 3.
Thanks.

 

If you want a help the start giving ALL information because after I read your post I got much more answers than amount of words in your post.

 

So guys one straight answer.

Is it easy, or do you need to be a wiz to use 1866Mhz Rams on Intel hm77 without bios access?»
I'm asking this, as previously stated the board supports up to 1600Mhz, and wouldn't want to waste money on 1866 ones, to have them capped.

 

If you have proper processor than you can use up to 2133.

I7-3610qm = at least 1866Mhz support. Will tell in about a month if it supports 2133.

 

3610QM and above, read a lot of discussion about the PnP part...

So there is no way to do it without typhoon and timing tweaking?
I'm asking this due to warranty becoming void with OC's and etc, so would consider it if it were a safe/simple process.

 

You can buy it for example.

If you want to buy 1600 RAM and further overclock then you better buy Samsung 1600 RAM. Warranty may expire only for RAM doing this.

 

Yes i meant, if i buy for instance the Corsairs Vengeance 1866 CL10, if they will be at 1866 or capped at 1600 due to the MOBO limitation?

Or if they can be tuned to 1866 using typhoon.


Or if the PnP works and they will automaticably be at their standard speed.


Thank you beforehand for the solid work you and other did in this thread

 

I see. I have already answered your question. There is no limitation for 1866 RAM on series 7 chipset. Because memory controller is on the CPU. I heard that mini-ATX low level desktop boards support up to 1600 but I believe it is because they can't handle I7 processors while I5 supports slower RAM.

 

Even in laptops? I guess i should have mentioned that in the first place.....
I'm asking this due the the extremely limited maneuverability on latop bios

Thanks for the time James D

 

Welcome. PnP memory is ANY memory but not with XMP. So you need no BIOS editing for usual RAM.

P.S. Even though I like fast RAM I must say that if you already have 16GB (4x4) of 1600 RAM then buying another 16GB of 1866 RAM is pretty waste of money. Not because it gives not so much performance but because you pay a lot for small

 

No i was considering for my friend, as right now the price for 2x8GB 1600 cl10 is about the same as 2x8 1866cl10 on a different store.

So thats why i was considering, since the price would be about the same

 

with PnP mem u dont need thaiphoon burner. only if u go for the xmp mem (like vengeance series) ull either need to use xtu or thaiphoon burner to get those sticks up to speed,otherwise theyre gonna run at 1600.

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how do you exactly write the profile to the ram? when i hit write it goes thru the motions but doesnt seem to stick?

 

You need to write to all dimms...