[HowTo] SO-DIMMs Extreme: Boost 1600 to 2133 and beyond / JEDEC & XMP

OK then, just cleaned it up a bit.

If you lower the timings (make it faster) you need to do it on all RAMs as it allways runs at the speed of the one with the highes timings (slowest).

 

Certainly Prema thats exactly how they work... thats why its easier to test individually. Atleast for testing purposes its good that the slowest timing is the default when more than one module is used. Prema thank you for making a new one or fixing that one either cool.

If its the one I posted care to teach me what not to do

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I see so you just unchecked the CL9 on the supported latency table and maybe the lower one and that brought the 400mhz profile back... anything else? That way it only loads the CL8 right

 

Oh, so fast response

First of all thanks very much, I need to underclock them, becouse I am overlocking my laptop and after I rise FSB to 333 via setfsb, frequency rises but timings remains still as 266 (7,7,7,20) I need to get 9 9 9 9 35 on 533(1066)

edit:// and that question about voltage. I was just curious if it is possible I have quite old laptop (hp dv6-1419eo) having modded bios, but even in modded isnt XPM,ram voltage etc, these settings in laptop are just wet dreams ))

btw I ve bricked this samsung modul earlier, hot swap and here we go..

 

OK, 667 timings @ 533Mhz

 

exactly

Ok, so it seems, that motherboard started ignoring spd tables, with both sticks i boot up and running at normal 7 7 7 7 20 clocks :O solo samsung stick wont boot, I dont get it

CPU-z showing that jedec as 548, can it be caused by this slight difference ?

ram.jpg:

 

Ha ha ha, had that before...just send me a dump of the Micron and i put identical timings in there...

 

ur awesome! here is micron dump, I guess i should use backup on samsung, to not get both unbootable thanks m8 !

 

Here you go

 

Are you sure that it will help you?
In this thread guy tried to do the same (similar) making 1333RAM to work 1066RAM on 1333timings. It didn't help

 

Micron seems to be write protected, but TPH showing he is not. for write I am using spd tool, but it should work anyway, maybe its due to microns different EEPROM :/

one does not simply underclock DDR3 !! :/


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well Its kinda similiar but icore and c2d are way to different, he wanted to change ratio of bclk/ram i just want to force my sticks to get 1333 settings at 1066.

 

SPDTool is oooooooold, it's just luck if it works on DDR3 or not...there was an older demo of Thaiphoon that allowed writing...don't know which version...

 

it is old, i just using it to write, not changing any bytes, 6,3 TPH but working only at 32bit systems. :/

I ordered A-DATA Premier Series 8GB DDR3 1333 single stick, CL 9!! most slow stick which i found, I hope it will handle OC. dual channel seems to be problem, since both sticks can run at higher clocks with 7 7 7 7 20.

anyway I really thanks for help, I still dont know why, 533@CL9 samsung wont boot, if motherboard start ignoring spd tables :/

 

At the end he forced his 1333 sticks to work like they are 1066 but with 9-9-9 timings which looks similar to what you are doing. He didn't OC higher than he already did before (check last post).

But yeah, perhaps you laptop is different too much to be Oced good.

Why couldn't you just try to buy it on NBR marketplace for much cheaper?

@prema I suggest you to not touch all that deviders. Just change timings (as you did) and add support to CL10 and 11.

 

:O didnt know about marketplace, Ill check it, but honestly its not expensive(57$) with free postage, in this case postage from foreign countries can be half of price. Btw I am not even sure if my QUANTA can handle solo 8gb stick

 

Just like it clean...

Anyway we can give it a run, too.

 

Ohhh, I should teach here everybody

Please flash this profile

 

He wanted 667 tables ported to 533...that's 9-11-11 what you did there...

 

533 8-9-9-24-33-74-4-10-5-5

I took every timing, multiplied it on 5 and divided it on 4.
Don't know why does it have CL8 instead of CL9 but I am sure it will be fine.

 

this profile had almost no effect, still 266@CL 7 7 7 7 20 just added highe CLS

stick wont boot, caps lock and numlock blinking ) (is CRC correct ? )

thanks anyway, going for hot plug

 

It's because its the same profile, just left "raw" with double tables etc...

You may try to clear the Cmos or just reset the bios to default...it may not read the changed tables, because it has the old ones stored in NVRAM...

He's now in your hands James...got to go...maybe make him a full CL10 table @ 533...GOOD LUCK dadik

BTW: James where were you when he spent money on extra RAM, don't tell me you were again sleeping, like when I ordered the XT, ha ha ha

 

yea I dont mind flashing all day and I am really surprised what support from you guys I get and I really appreciate it.

btw I managed to use A-data profile from TPH browser and made A-data from samsung, with full CL 8 8 8 8 .. at 533 but it wasnt enough. I need 9 I guess


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well If this is possible I may try clear CMOS, thx

 

For some reason all your words now look fishy to me

Try this one. it is 8-8-8 timings for 533

 

Just found it funny that you showed up like 2 minutes after he bought it, same like with me, remember?
If I read it again now it sounds a bit sarcastic, but that wasn't my intention, sorry mate...was meant to be a joke!

 

So Prema, what RAM to suggest for the Clevo W110ER? Since you also have an interest in it, I'd like to see what's the fastest RAM I can get for best IGP performance.

 

I am now off home, but I ll try asap, but as I wrote I flashed smsung as A data with CL8 but it was not enough to run dual channel @333

Posted on 5800xm

I am now off home, but I ll try asap, but as I wrote I flashed smsung as A data with CL8 but it was not enough to run dual channel @333

Posted on 5800xm

I am now off home, but I ll try asap, but as I wrote I flashed smsung as A data with CL8 but it was not enough to run dual channel @333

Posted on 5800xm

 

Hmm, the question of the week. I have the Kingston 1866 and they do 2133@CL11, but that's it.

First I was fixed to get the Corsair 1866 for the W11, but I am not sure how they do @ 2133, but residualvoltage has some Samsung beating them all:


http://forum.notebookreview.com/ali...1-running-memory-2133-mhz-10.html#post8479419

I just wish Kingston would have released the native 2133 CL9 by now, that they are
showing us far to often...

To make it short: "I simply don't know"! Ha ha ha...

 

as first sorry for triple post, damned old phone :/


Thanks m8 but even this cl 8 dump is stick bricking , dunno but just for curiosity I again used dump from TPH browser A-DATA D73I1B1672E DDR3-1333H which works as intended cl 8 at 266 , maybe altering this A-DATa from browser could work.

cl8.jpg:

 

give us adata profile

 

thanks,
here it is

 

Thanks.

Well if you confirm you can get them running at 2133 on the W110ER, I'll have to invest in a pair. Hopefully I have as much luck. And hasn't Kingston been touting their native 2133 for over a year now yet nothing has materialized? I'd rather just buy those than futzing around with trying to modify timings.

 

533@CL9-9-9
533@CL10-9-9

GOOD LUCK

 

Aww hello m8

with both profiles i boot up as 8 7 7 7 20 single "A-DATA" wont boot so there has to be bios limitations, since this bios is like for 200types of DV6 notebooks and really few have DDR3 and correct me if I am wrong but DDR 2 had max CL8 right? There were some warnings to not try go for 9+ with DDR 2 maybe thats the problem. so far default A-data is best what i could achieve, with full 8 8 8 8 20 <== dunno why but tRAS remains still 20, even if it was following A-data spd table)


btw I even reseted CMOS

 

Even within a CL range we can loosen the timings.
So here Adata at the slowest CL8 (15ns...14.844ns is already CL9).

 

Thanks, but bricked

by the way there are 2 states of bricking in my case, one laptop simply wont POST and second capslock and numlock blinking with no POST, James D profiles and this one make caps+numlock blinking and those CL9 posted earlier doing the other type of not POSTING I am soo confused I simply give up, this is madness ! I hope that 8gig A-data will surprise me

hello there,

so A-data stick is useless, gotta give it back, intel PM45 can handle up to 8 gigs but obviously not single stick

so Guys any tips for 4gig module which can handle 1333mhz with 1066 timings ?

 

You can get CL7 kingston hyper-X.

EDIT: That may only be 2GB, Hmz, the 1600mhz modules can do that too.

 

I ve had 2x4 GB kinston hyperX 1600 XMP ... worse modules then my samsung 1333 and micron 1333, so nope, definitely not kingston how about crucial modules ?

 

Dadik, we already told you that most likely it is not RAM problem. Most likely CL8 is the highest your laptop can support.

 

yes, thats why I am asking for best 4GB module which can be OCEd to run at 1333 with 1066 timings

 

I've run both my sets of kingston (1066 and 1600) at 1333mhz CL7, so I don't understand what you are asking?

1333mhz at CL5? That's not going to happen.

 

For people with a 1333 max cpu and Corsair CMSX4GX3M1A1600C9

Who want 1333 CL7 with no extra profiles

I edited the SPD data so it runs at the DDR3-1333F 7-7-7-20 Speed Bin



http://www.mediafire.com/?jcfdn24h0j4a8hv

Oh its also in bin format so it will flash with SPDTool and Thaiphoon Burner

Just a quick update
I made the spd data when the ram was still on order

It has since come and been fitted and flashed
I ran two passes of memtest last night at 1333 7-7-7-20 cr1 with 8gb
and it passed with my sticks will run six pass at some point to be 100%
but im still setting the laptop up with a fresh install of Win7

 

Shonk, I will rep you. But anyone who will flash 1866 profile will have 7-7-7-20 latency for 1333. I have 3 or 4 profiles waiting to flash on Corsair

 

There's a poss that the voltage will be set to 1.65 volts due to the xmp profiles
on certain bios's also there's no point adding 1866 on a laptop that you cant confirm the ram is stable at 1866
it may also run at cr2 on certain bios's

so to rule out any problems i made it without xmp

and posted it to give people options

 

yes. thank you for explanation. but i kinda figured myself what you have done.

but as I said, simple flash of 1866 profile will do the same without xmp profiles. What you said about stability is useless not just because it will be stable, but because systems which doesn't support 1600 or above don't care about other speed options except 1333 (or lower).

 

Looking for some advice - what would be my best bet for my incoming P150EM/3610QM/7970M. Want to stick in 8GB or 16GB of the quickest RAM possible.

 

James D - Even though I gave you some grief before I wanted to say thanks. And also that I can see where you're coming from as far as performance "snap". I recently bumped my system to run at 1866MHz and whether placebo or not, it is noticeably quicker with everything. Hoping to be able to boost to 2133, but have a feeling with the RAM I have it might fail on me.

 

Yeeeeeeeeeey!!!! Welcome to our Club!

It is my best day for last month!.. Because I sold 1 CPU today for good money. But your post made it better too

 

Nice good to see more looking into thrashing ram I agree HTWingNut I am running 2133mhz 8gb dual channel and its been ultra snappy on SSD and XM in anything you do... anything. http://forum.notebookreview.com/8553846-post113.html been even running those times currently on IGP... games and even benches

 

I want to do some power consumption testing though, and see if it's running any hotter. My 1.35V Samsung's are running fine at 2133MHz @ CAS 11 so far. I think I might want to get some heat spreaders for them now.

Anyone know where to buy heat spreaders? These things can't seem to find them anywhere: http://www.sunbeamtech.com/PRODUCTS/cooler/Spreader.html

 

when i touched mine after memtest testing and stuff mine didn't seem any hotter than the rest at normal speeds. What voltage do you need to get there? I need 1.55v even at the tight timings above 9-10-10-25. Nice work HTWingNut... I have a second pair that will do 2133 at 13-13-13... haven't used them since these run so well. I also tried this on a pair of 1866 corsair vengeance and they hated anything i tried... I didn't go above 13 because my system doesn't load CL14 or higher for some reason.

 

Heatspreaders for laptop's RAM? They are useless... that is why that is complicated to find any. HyperX uses it because it is marketing trick.

You may try to use 1.5V for CL10.

residualvoltage is hard core tester