Same here. Going back to desktop and getting something lighter and more efficient on the move.
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It's Here!!
Pre-order online now - Feb 22 - (today!) ...Release date is March 2nd
AMD RYZEN 7 OFFICIAL LAUNCH - ALL THE DETAILS!
AMD Ryzen 7 Release
RYZEN will cost HOW MUCH?? AMD drops the bomb
Hello Ryzen! CPUs, Pricing and Launch Date FINALLY Revealed
AMD Ryzen Teaser: Official Pricing, Specs & Scores!
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https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10155115799236473&id=23542086472
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Links for Amazon here: https://www.pcper.com/news/Processo...r-Starts-Today-Specs-and-Performance-Revealed
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http://www.anandtech.com/show/11143...or-under-330-preorder-today-on-sale-march-2nd
http://www.pcworld.com/article/3171...ntels-core-i7-at-a-fraction-of-the-price.html
http://www.pcworld.com/article/3172...-preview-ryzen-7-outperforms-intels-best.html
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@Papusan I need you in to comment on a 1601 cinebench score on the Ryzen [email protected].
Even comparing not with the numbers they showed today in the presentation for the 6900K (most likely dual channel ram), it beats the higher 1542 number from PCWorld's analysis. That should say something!Last edited: Feb 22, 2017TBoneSan, Atma, Papusan and 1 other person like this. -
OverTallman Notebook Evangelist
Happy to know the majority of us is right, for sure I'm dropping some big money on my Ryzen build.
My possible config:
- R7 1700X
- B350 mobo
- 16GB/32GB DDR4 RAM
- FirePro S9010 (previously bought in eBay)
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1800X
MSI X370 Titanium
32GB Trident Z 4133 (4x8gb scavenged from my 6700K build, BTW, know anyone that needs a 6700K and M8E)
EVGA 980 Ti (moving the TT water 3.0 ultimate over to cool it)
EK monoblock (evidently because of using the same phases, the z270 monoblock will work with it)!
S&A CW-5200DH w/ 13L/m and a cooling range down to 5C
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1700X
Asus Crosshair VI Hero
Undecided RAM, 16GB is the sure amount
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OverTallman Notebook Evangelist
P.S. Heard a horror story on my friend's £3000 water cooled system, basically some coolant leaked and the whole system went down for months. I demand a low-maintenance system so water cooling just isn't for me. The new Wraith cooler looks very sexy for a stock cooler though. -
http://www.eteknix.com/cooler-master-announces-amd-ryzen-am4-compatibility-list/
Cooler Master Press Release with Compatibility table:
http://www.coolermaster.com/company/press-release-M1701190001f278-20170119.html?page=1
It looks like the Cooler Master Maker 8 fits (but check with mfgr), which is the cooler I am looking at for the 1800x.
http://www.coolermaster.com/cooling/cpu-air-cooler/masterair-maker-8/
Cooler Master AMD Socket AM4 Upgrade Kit Announced
Confirms AM4 CPU Cooler Compatibility
https://nasilemaktech.com/2017/02/14/cooler-master-amd-socket-am4-upgrade-kit/
Order Cooler Master AM4 upgrade kit here:
http://www.coolermaster.com/we-are-ready-for-your-am4-socket/
I've had good and bad Liquid cooling experiences, so I try the best air-cooling available first to see if I can live with that for "normal" OC'ing.
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Edit: BTW, my water 3.0 ultimate is setup in push/pull with 6xnoctua iPPC 3000 fans!
Edit 2: Here is my last build:
Asus Maximus VIII Extreme, G.Skill 4133MHz - Running 3733MHz (MB limitation)@1.47V@ 14-17-17-36-280 with Corsair CMXAF2 Ram fans, EVGA 980 Ti Classified (OC specs to come), [email protected]@1.42V everyday stable, Thermaltake Water 3.0 Ultimate AIO (push/pull 6xNoctua iPPC 3000), EVGA 1600 Ti PSU (for later SLI setups), Thermaltake X9 Cube, Intel 600P NVMELast edited: Feb 22, 2017OverTallman, Papusan, Atma and 1 other person like this. -
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With that said, the spec gap between the two is small.hmscott, triturbo, OverTallman and 3 others like this. -
http://semiaccurate.com/2017/02/22/amds-ryzen-7-1800x-beats-intels-i7-6900k-half-price/
"Cinebench may be seen as a non-representative benchmark for some but SemiAccurate is confident that Ryzen’s performance will hold up across a wide range of benchmarks. This last bit may explain why Intel PR sent out a last-minute 'call us before you write' email to most of the press, but not SemiAccurate, after hours last night. You could infer that they are suddenly really worried about something. In case we read that wrong, they should be." -
Turns out they were showing the effects of simultaneous load + streaming and lag / dropped frames on 7700k vs 1700:
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@tgipier , @Papusan , @triturbo - great article on comparing dual and quad channel on an Intel 6-core!
http://www.pcworld.com/article/2982...e-shocking-truth-about-their-performance.htmlAshtrix, Papusan, triturbo and 1 other person like this. -
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Dr Lisa Su deserves credits as welltriturbo, hmscott, Atma and 1 other person like this. -
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Hnnng. $330 65 watt TDP 8 core. Imagine those things or one of the 65 watt 6 cores instead of i7 7700Ks in notebooks.
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That is reporters, not experts, playing with LN2... So far, it goes 19MHz lower than the top frequency record on hwbot:
http://hwbot.org/hardware/processor/core_i7_6900k/
Also, that score is higher than the world record on the 6900K, which is 2146.
@Johnksss@iBUYPOWER @Mr. Fox @Papusan @bloodhawk - Thoughts?
Edit: adding content from two later posts for anyone else that later reads this post:
To be fair, the intel chips cited above pull 1.54V on dry ice for the 6900K 5220 MHz and 1.625V for the cinebench score, running at 5.1GHz. One potential reason for the high voltage on the AMD is that they just set the voltage high to show an over 5.0GHz score. The other explanation could be that it takes more voltage to accomplish the same, meaning AMD, once again, tuned the voltage to the maximal heat/multiplier ratio and above that, it gets very hot very quick and requires more voltage to get there.
http://hwbot.org/hardware/processor/core_i7_6900k/
http://hwbot.org/submission/3352024_paralyzer2005_cpu_frequency_core_i7_6900k_5220_mhz
http://hwbot.org/submission/3249358_darkvenom_cinebench___r15_core_i7_6900k_2146_cb
In light of my idiocy, new comparison:
http://hwbot.org/hardware/processor/core_i7_5960x/
http://hwbot.org/submission/2921913_the_overclocking_knights_cpu_frequency_core_i7_5960x_6655_mhz
http://hwbot.org/submission/3233876_the_overclocking_knights_cinebench___r15_core_i7_5960x_2445_cb
Now, the [email protected] ryzen score versus the 2445 world record on the 5960X, with the 5960X running at [email protected] is very telliing. You get way higher top frequency on Intel, but it says that in the right hands, the 1800X may still edge it out in some benches!
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It will be even more interesting if it becomes relevant. (Relevant as in a full bore no compromise desktop Ryzen CPU available in a Clevo laptop.) I'd still want to have an AMD GPU that was worth a damn. But, I don't know if we will ever see one again. It would need to be a better overclocker than NVIDIA's best GPU before I would want it. I have a hard time with the concept of pairing an AMD CPU and NVIDIA GPU(s). I know it works, but it's like an unholy marriage or something.Last edited: Feb 22, 2017 -
Edit: @Mr. Fox - here are the articles!
Decent article. First I heard about the L2 cache utilization was like 3-6 months ago (I want to say August, but no sure). But this discusses some of the stuff from this month, including quite a bit of comparison to Nvidia's way of doing things, etc...
http://www.anandtech.com/show/11002/the-amd-vega-gpu-architecture-teaser/3
Here is another article - http://semiaccurate.com/2017/01/17/amd-talks-vega-high-level/
http://hwbot.org/hardware/processor/core_i7_6900k/
http://hwbot.org/submission/3352024_paralyzer2005_cpu_frequency_core_i7_6900k_5220_mhz
http://hwbot.org/submission/3249358_darkvenom_cinebench___r15_core_i7_6900k_2146_cb
So, until I know a bit more on the voltage and why set that high, I'd hold off on a setup, even though I'm looking at that CW-5200DH setup (bought that chiller last night) and an 1800X. I'll still wait to see average overclock before purchasing the MB and CPU.Last edited: Feb 22, 2017 -
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That benchmark its pretty much irrelevant to me as it doesnt even to cover certain softwares.
I do like where this is going.
I wont touch an AMD chip, but if thats get intel releasing Skylake E better, its all good news to me.tilleroftheearth, Papusan, Johnksss and 1 other person like this. -
Do you know why that is? And why they chose that chip to compare?
I will give you the part about it being cheaper though.
But....That chip comes nowhere remotely close to a 5960X. This is why there are no real benchmarks showing on hwbot for a 6900K. Who wants to bench a losing chip? They did that for hardware points not world record points.
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Side note: We shall wait for the real scores to come out later though....Maybe AMD did pull a rabbit out of their hat and are really on to something. Me personally....I'm not any part specific. So if that is better then I'll jump on the AMD train, but it needs to be better at at least 70 percent of all benchmarks to make that viable to me. -
In light of my idiocy, new comparison:
http://hwbot.org/submission/2921913_the_overclocking_knights_cpu_frequency_core_i7_5960x_6655_mhz
http://hwbot.org/submission/3233876_the_overclocking_knights_cinebench___r15_core_i7_5960x_2445_cb
Now, the [email protected] ryzen score versus the 2445 world record on the 5960X, with the 5960X running at [email protected] is very telliing. You get way higher top frequency on Intel, but it says that in the right hands, the 1800X may still edge it out in some benches!
Edit: and yes, we did have that conversation awhile back!!!Papusan, Mr. Fox, triturbo and 1 other person like this. -
I think you better take a closer look at that picture.
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@Johnksss@iBUYPOWER - no problem. This is the part I mentioned it:
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I don't read those tech articles too much because I do not care for hypothetical analysis. I only care about results. I definitely want NVIDIA to get rag-dolled by AMD real bad. But, I hate being disappointed, so I will wait until I see the overclocked benchmarks. (I don't care about stock performance either. If AMD were to beat NVIDIA stock but can't keep up once the overclocking starts, then it's still a decisive lose for AMD.)
I like what I see developing with Ryzen, but unless they can deliver a CPU and GPU combo under the AMD banner that trounces Intel and NVIDIA, I will not likely jump on the bandwagon. If they do, it will be wonderful and I will be among those joyfully celebrating the underdog's destruction of their unhealthy monopoly. If that then makes its way to mobile monsterbooks like the P870DM3, then I will be even happier. -
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Now give me that 1800X in a Notebook. I'd jump on it almost immediately! Don't know why i should stay with Intel just for the higher prices. If that thing works, it's bought. 8 cores, 16 Threads in a Notebook at an acceptable price... holy cow!
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AMD has never had a 8/16 in a laptop before......So.........Can they make it happen in a reasonable amount of time.....
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Even if they wouldn't do it. Clevo could.
Just imagine the possibilities for advertisement: First full fledged Eightcore in a Notebook!
AMD's Ryzen CPUs (Ryzen/TR/Epyc) & Vega/Polaris/Navi GPUs
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